| MCDayC United Kingdom. August 08 2011 23:07. Posts 11807 | Profile # |
On August 08 2011 22:57 Tobi_Wan_Kenobi wrote:
Thanks to GogoKodo who actually got what I was talking about, and upheld the high quality of forum posts I generally see here at TL
Free 2 Play and Pay 2 Play are 2 very different models and each model must be applied to a game that will actually make the most of it. Pay 2 Play is not a way of restricting players from playing the game, it just helps players respect the game which they have spent their $ on.
I dont think anyone could shit on the model that LoL has done, it has been insanely successful and will continue to be so, well after the release of DOTA 2. No matter what Valve choose to do there will still be a crap load of people playing the game.
What would save SC2 in my opinion if it went F2P is its ranking systems...would just make bronze alot more frustrating.
Would Dota not have these ranking systems? Surely with as huge playerbase, some kind of ladder would be vital? IF there is such a ladder, then in my opinion having the game free would be hugely preferable. |
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| Loodah August 09 2011 08:45. Posts 332 | Profile Blog # |
On August 08 2011 10:53 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:46 MCDayC wrote:
Am I the only one who thought the Dota commentator was a bit of an idiot? How can you not want a game to become free to play? Surely that would be a great way to expand your scene. He seemed to shit all over Lol's model, which has been a resounding success.
because its not actually free to play. It gives a giant advantage for the people willing to pay for runes for all your heros(hence why i stopped playing after beta)
It is free to play - having more heroes doesn't give you an advantage as an individual player... it gives you an easier time deciding which heroes are your favorite. Then again the free heroes rotate every week so once you find one you love you can save up and buy it with in game points that you get from winning games....
This "giant" advantage is just not there. I don't even think it's a small advantage. It's just a matter of figuring out what you like. If people are willing to pay more money to figure that out faster, then that should be an option.
You also can't pay for runes. So you obviously don't know what you're talking about and should just stop before you look like even more of an idiot. |
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| Horse...falcon United States. August 09 2011 08:58. Posts 1733 | Profile # |
On August 08 2011 10:46 MCDayC wrote:
Am I the only one who thought the Dota commentator was a bit of an idiot? How can you not want a game to become free to play? Surely that would be a great way to expand your scene. He seemed to shit all over Lol's model, which has been a resounding success.
LoL and Hon are free to play but you do have to buy their game currency to purchase additional heroes/models/etc. I personally would rather pay the $50 to get everything rather than spend hundreds on coins to get the same functionality. |
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| Slasher United States. August 11 2011 05:31. Posts 960 | Profile # |
Live On Three is hosted by Marcus "djWHEAT" Graham, Rod "Slasher" Breslau and Scott "SirScoots" Smith. Live On Three occurs every Wednesday at 19:00 EDT (-04:00) (7 PM EST, 01:00 CET) @ http://www.OneMoreGame.tv / http://www.Justin.tv/OneMoreGameTV
Live On Three #83 will recap this past weekend's biggest events - QuakeCon 2011, Assembly 2011, and the European Battle.net Invitational. QuakeCon 2011 saw the culmination of the Quake community, as what may be the last major tournament until DreamHack later this year. American QCon 2011 champion SK.Rapha, arguably the best Quake Live player of all time and possible best Quake player of all time, will join us on the show to discuss his second QuakeCon championship. EU Battle.net champion Jos "Ret" De Kroon will also join the show and discuss his first major victory since Assembly Winter, and the brewing rivalry between him and NaNiwa.
Other news today to include:
- Sweden and the World gets DOMINATED in GSL Code A
- MLG Anaheim and EVO World Finals Numbers released; controversy regarding statistics
- ESL GamesCom groups announced including MKP, Puma, Killer as invites; ESL goes to Brazil
- YellOw comes back to the Starcraft scene quickly, will have his own show on Gom and be managed by SlayerS_Jessica
- TeamLiquid pick up HerO
- compLexity Triggers Down merges with Final Boss
- TSL kicked out of the Starcraft 2 committee, let back in shortly later
- $30,000 Heroes of Newerth and CS 1.6 tournaments confirmed for DH under Beat It tournament; no Quake
- IPL with new $100,000 prize purse, 2 new games announced soon |
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| Talin Montenegro. August 11 2011 05:55. Posts 8163 | Profile Blog # |
On June 23 2011 06:41 Slasher wrote:
- Sweden and the World gets DOMINATED in GSL Code A
Such sensationalism. :/
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| SmoKim Denmark. August 11 2011 05:57. Posts 8203 | Profile # |
On August 11 2011 05:55 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 06:41 Slasher wrote:
- Sweden and the World gets DOMINATED in GSL Code A
Such sensationalism. :/
well what did you expect from Slasher, a happy ending  ? |
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| ZergMaestro United States. August 11 2011 06:36. Posts 168 | Profile # |
| "The World" did get fucked pretty hard. |
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| Slasher United States. August 11 2011 06:49. Posts 960 | Profile # |
| HARD. Not sensationalism. We're just fucking terrible. |
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| Rayeth United States. August 11 2011 07:05. Posts 534 | Profile Blog # |
On August 11 2011 06:49 Slasher wrote:
HARD. Not sensationalism. We're just fucking terrible.
There was that ThorZain game where he totally DOMINATED, but then the second and 3rd games he just reacted badly in a couple situations. Overall I would say the games were pretty big losses for the World, but the Thorzain ones in particular were very close. |
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| Slasher United States. August 11 2011 07:07. Posts 960 | Profile # |
On August 11 2011 07:05 Rayeth wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 06:49 Slasher wrote:
HARD. Not sensationalism. We're just fucking terrible.
There was that ThorZain game where he totally DOMINATED, but then the second and 3rd games he just reacted badly in a couple situations. Overall I would say the games were pretty big losses for the World, but the Thorzain ones in particular were very close.
He played well the first game but not the second or third at all really. And although a SlayerS player, Yugioh isn't exactly the best of the bunch. |
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| Rayeth United States. August 11 2011 07:15. Posts 534 | Profile Blog # |
On August 11 2011 07:07 Slasher wrote:
He played well the first game but not the second or third at all really. And although a SlayerS player, Yugioh isn't exactly the best of the bunch.
You're not wrong. But I would hesitate to say Thorzain was dominated. The other games certainly were though.
And yeah... YuGiOh isn't the same as beating someone like Bomber or MMA. Still though, I feel like some of that was due to situation (especially that bullcrap about their flight being delayed 12 hours. F*** that, I hate being in an airport for 2 hours let alone a full day.), but that is certainly no excuse. These dudes are pros, and hopefully the next foreigners to head over take the transition more seriously and spend a good deal of time before hand in Korea acclimating and preparing so they don't get owned so hard. We can only hope.
And Slasher can only hate on foreigners. We expect nothing less. |
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| ptbl United States. August 11 2011 07:24. Posts 2178 | Profile # |
| Hey Slasher, is Ret going to be on the show? I saw somewhere on Twitter that he was going to talk about his victory at the EU Blizzcon Invitational. |
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| Sneakyz Sweden. August 11 2011 07:31. Posts 2323 | Profile # |
On August 11 2011 07:24 ptbl wrote:
Hey Slasher, is Ret going to be on the show? I saw somewhere on Twitter that he was going to talk about his victory at the EU Blizzcon Invitational.
Unless anything has changed Ret and Rapha (top quake player) will be on the show. |
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| Micket United Kingdom. August 11 2011 07:38. Posts 2163 | Profile # |
Slasher is the personality that the foreign scene needs because if everyone was as excuse friendly as most TL people, people would be content with our best foreigners losing to mid tier Koreans. After tsl 3 and gsl world championships, do you think ANYONE in the world would have said "as lovely as Thorzain's victory was, defeating oGsMC and Fruitdealer, I think SlayersYugioh will best him in a Bo3 in a few months time." Do you think ANYONE would have said "well, Naniwa may have won MLG Dallas in the most convincing fashion ever, and came 2nd in tsl, but I think CheckPrime will dominate him easy in a few months time." After the amazingness of gsl wc and tsl3, people were saying "do Koreans actually practise?" "I don't think there is much of a skill gap if any at all." Even Mc praised Thorzain as being superior to the Korean Terrans, a statement clearly not the case atm.
Foreigners need to adopt Naniwa's attitude (as well as Huk and Jinro), because this isn't Halo Reach, where the bonjwa team that hasn't lost for months practise together for 3-4 hours a day and call it hard work. |
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| Slasher United States. August 11 2011 08:01. Posts 960 | Profile # | |
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| ZergMaestro United States. August 11 2011 08:13. Posts 168 | Profile # |
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| Icekommander Canada. August 11 2011 08:17. Posts 476 | Profile Blog # |
| Wheat, you have just lost some respect >.< |
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| Zinnwaldite Seychelles. August 11 2011 08:17. Posts 1301 | Profile # | |
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| aphorism United States. August 11 2011 08:18. Posts 226 | Profile # |
On August 11 2011 08:17 Icekommander wrote:
Wheat, you have just lost some respect >.<
Wheat, you have just gained enormous amounts of respect. Way to send a positive message to the foreigner community!
Anyway, hyped for Rapha + Ret, gonna be an awesome show! |
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| Al Bundy August 11 2011 08:18. Posts 7167 | Profile # |
I love Ret and I love Quake <3
Just wanted to say that Lo3 is my favorite esports related show |
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