Top10 average APM during Dreamhack (list)

Joinsimon compiled a list of the top 10 and bottom 10 average APM throughout Dreamhack Summer.

Top 10 APM during Dreamhack Summer (Ingame APM / Real APM)
1. Dignitas.Merz = 339 / 470
2. TT1 = 247 / 343
3. oGsMC = 243 / 338
4. PredY = 234 / 324
5. July = 228 / 317
6. AiOsho = 222 / 308
7. LiquidHuk = 215 / 298
8. mouz.MorroW = 211 / 292
9. VirusNaama = 206 / 285
10. FnaticMSISen = 204 / 283
Average placement of top ten apm (group stage considered 32): 16,5

Bottom 10 APM during Dreamhack Summer (Ingame APM / Real APM)
1. VirusElfi = 85 / 118
2. ESCGoody = 96 / 133
3. Dignitas.SjoW = 98 / 135
4. MAdelscott = 108 / 149
5. White-Ra = 127 / 175
6. Grubby = 130 / 180
7. mouz.Thorzain = 130 / 180
8. aTnSocke = 131 / 181
9. LiquidJinro = 139 / 193
10. MDieStar = 144 / 200
Average placement of bottom ten apm (group stage considered 32): 28

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Not counting the first two minutes has pretty much no impact on these numbers.

Source: reddit

Last edit: 2011-06-27 02:21:52

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decaf Austria. June 26 2011 21:13. Posts 1693

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lol merz has more than anyone else by a huge margin

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Megaliskuu United States. June 26 2011 21:14. Posts 5013

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Thank you maybe now people will shut up about sjow having "90 apm".

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shizna United Kingdom. June 26 2011 21:14. Posts 803

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of the top 10, what percentage of actions were not a spam click = 50%

seriously, thorzain and whitera are in the top5 foreigners at least. their apm is fine.

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Penke Sweden. June 26 2011 21:15. Posts 346

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On June 26 2011 21:13 decaf wrote:
lol merz has more than anyone else by a huge margin

True, but Merz is pretty much known for spamming like crazy.

RaLakedaimon United States. June 26 2011 21:15. Posts 1523

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Wow Merz is fast as hell didn't expect MC to not be on the top, cool information thanks op.

Megaliskuu United States. June 26 2011 21:15. Posts 5013

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Its kinda sad that people can be top players with 130 apm though

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beamlite June 26 2011 21:15. Posts 118

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Wow, it seems like 339 APM will hurt more than help. That's a lot of spamming!

FinnGamer Germany. June 26 2011 21:16. Posts 2420

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Isn't Ingame APM 1,33333 times slower than Real apm? You used the factor 1,39, still gives a good overlook though

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Kira__ Sweden. June 26 2011 21:16. Posts 2672

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wait... someone had lower apm than goody?

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Ruscour June 26 2011 21:17. Posts 5116

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As long as you have high enough APM to keep up with the multitasking that the game requires you to do, then you're fine. APM elitism is retarded at progamer level, it matters when you get into low level players when people have APMs <80 and can't keep up with what's happening in-game, but at this level it's irrelevant.

ViBE said his high APM really helps him because it allows him to always be on top of multitasking and such. Most spam is just to keep yourself as focused as possible.

VirGin Norway. June 26 2011 21:17. Posts 278

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On June 26 2011 21:14 Megaliskuu wrote:
Thank you maybe now people will shut up about sjow having "90 apm".

He is listed with 98...

Ryka United Kingdom. June 26 2011 21:17. Posts 252

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On June 26 2011 21:15 Megaliskuu wrote:
Its kinda sad that people can be top players with 130 apm though

How is it sad? APM is meaningless, this has been known for a long time.

I think it's a very very good thing that intelligence/decision making/timing/positioning etc are vastly more important than raw hand speed.

Megaliskuu United States. June 26 2011 21:17. Posts 5013

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On June 26 2011 21:17 VirGin wrote:

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He is listed with 98...

Only idiots go by sc2 apm. Its Actions Per Minute, not "Actions per poorly designed blizzard minute"

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Porkz Denmark. June 26 2011 21:17. Posts 405

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On June 26 2011 21:15 Megaliskuu wrote:
Its kinda sad that people can be top players with 130 apm though

How is this Sad? o.O
I think its awesome that people can play effectively enough to be a pro gamer while only using 130 apm!

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DisaFear Australia. June 26 2011 21:18. Posts 4030

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On June 26 2011 21:16 Kira__ wrote:
wait... someone had lower apm than goody?

lol

Good to see some pro players don't have super-high APM, makes me feel better

On June 26 2011 21:17 Porkz wrote:

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How is this Sad? o.O
I think its awesome that people can play effectively enough to be a pro gamer while only using 130 apm!

Exactly!

Last edit: 2011-06-26 21:19:08

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Pred8oar Germany. June 26 2011 21:18. Posts 272

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And here we have the stats proving that skill doesnt develop out of apm but skill can mean a high apm but doesnt have to.

Seiniyta Belgium. June 26 2011 21:18. Posts 1454

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On June 26 2011 21:17 VirGin wrote:

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He is listed with 98...

But that's more then 90 :D :D :trollface:

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funk100 United Kingdom. June 26 2011 21:19. Posts 172

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On June 26 2011 21:15 Megaliskuu wrote:
Its kinda sad that people can be top players with 130 apm though

130 APM is enough to do all you need to do in Sc2 if you use it efficiently.

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MrCeeJ United Kingdom. June 26 2011 21:20. Posts 57

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I love how the 'press F2 to check my expo site still exists for the 5th time' action is given the exact same weighting as the 'building a robo to counter the DT rush I am preparing for based of scouting a second early gass' action.

In short once you can think fast enough to get what you need to do figured out, and click fast enough to do it it is all about the quality of the actions and not the quantity.

EDIT: Clearly if you can maintain your win rate, the lower the apm the better. Learning bad spam habits, over microing, wasting time, energy and resources, developing CTS/RSI or worse.

Last edit: 2011-06-26 21:23:02

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