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| xuanzue Colombia. July 05 2011 00:15. Posts 649 | Profile # |
victoria 2 likes me more.
i'm still waiting the eu3 ---> vic2 ----> hoi3 conversor
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| Yuljan Germany. July 05 2011 00:17. Posts 1834 | Profile Blog # |
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| Fruscainte July 05 2011 00:48. Posts 4041 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 00:15 xuanzue wrote:victoria 2 likes me more. i'm still waiting the eu3 ---> vic2 ----> hoi3 conversor
I heard one is actually out there. Can't find it though. |
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 reneg United States. July 05 2011 02:57. Posts 677 | Profile # |
On July 05 2011 00:48 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 00:15 xuanzue wrote:victoria 2 likes me more. i'm still waiting the eu3 ---> vic2 ----> hoi3 conversor
I heard one is actually out there. Can't find it though.
they have a really hard time converting from vicky2 to hoi3, because hoi3 has something in the range of 10,000 provinces, while every other game has at most 1/4 that. With most being in the 1k ballpark |
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| Skilledblob Germany. July 05 2011 03:42. Posts 2657 | Profile # |
| HoI3 is just too much. The game tells you nothing and basically just lets you die. So I hope EU3 is a bit more understandable |
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| Fruscainte July 05 2011 03:54. Posts 4041 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 03:42 Skilledblob wrote:
HoI3 is just too much. The game tells you nothing and basically just lets you die. So I hope EU3 is a bit more understandable
It's much more new player friendly, yes. A much better interface too. |
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| Euronyme Sweden. July 05 2011 07:31. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
On July 04 2011 09:59 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 09:45 Fruscainte wrote:
On July 04 2011 09:33 Yuljan wrote:
On July 04 2011 09:10 Fruscainte wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it.
Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun.
orthodox is easy. Just take novogrod or moscow both start insanely strong.
That's for baby men. ![[image loading]](http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8553/1309739339134.jpg)
Byzantium is easy too once you figure out how to block the ottoman army with your ships. After that a walk in the park
How do you do that? I tried to copy it, engaged Epirus, the little country up north from the southern base, and got bum raped by the catholik alliance or whatever it's called (fun part is that that country isn't even catholik).
I guess you need a pretty good navy to hold out against the ottomans, and slowly and steadily build up an army?
What do you attack first? |
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| Yuljan Germany. July 05 2011 08:31. Posts 1834 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 07:31 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 09:59 Yuljan wrote:
On July 04 2011 09:45 Fruscainte wrote:
On July 04 2011 09:33 Yuljan wrote:
On July 04 2011 09:10 Fruscainte wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:59 Yuljan wrote:
I love this game. Currently trying to convert all the world to catholic with papal states. Controlling all cardinals really helps reduce my infamy. But iam almost bored again beat spain and france and england has a smaller navy than me. No real enemies anymore only if they gang up on me and even then I think I will come out on top.
The early game with really small nations is increndible tho. I played one game with my native country frankfurt. Getting biggest income with trading and started to annex land after 100-200 years.
I was really confused when I started playing eu3 though. I had some experience from eu2 but not much. Btw if you think eu3 is hard try eu2. Even now I cant tell wtf is going on there.
And if you are bored by the easy difficulty in eu3 after a while. Some mods make this game hell. Stab hits every few months and doom stack rebels.
Played it since release and still love it.
Catholicism is easy, try converting everyone to Orthodox. That's when it gets fun.
orthodox is easy. Just take novogrod or moscow both start insanely strong.
That's for baby men.
Byzantium is easy too once you figure out how to block the ottoman army with your ships. After that a walk in the park
How do you do that? I tried to copy it, engaged Epirus, the little country up north from the southern base, and got bum raped by the catholik alliance or whatever it's called (fun part is that that country isn't even catholik). I guess you need a pretty good navy to hold out against the ottomans, and slowly and steadily build up an army? What do you attack first?
Well im often too slow to go for epirus. I start the game with full minting and build up a little fleet for 1 or 2 years. I take candar at the start tho thats not exactly the best choice. Sometimes I go for morea or something down there in greece. I try to avoid venice because their fleet rapes me. After i got enough ships to scare the ottoman fleet i build up an army of around 10 stacks get spies on ottomans and wait till they move all their men to asia, just wait till they fight timurids again. Declare war beat of serbia and bosnia and siege all of greece. If I took candar I have to hurry or my war exhaustions goes up too fast. But I think it can be done even without taking any countries at the start. Just wait for an easy opening. Epirus gets insta annexed by naples everytime I play byzantine. Just watch out for the alliances when you declare war and watch the armies ledger. Sometimes they fight a bad war elsewhere and will just white peace after a few months and you still annexed the one province things. And dont build galleys somehow a few carracks are enough to make the ottomans fear your navy. If you see any opening before that don't be afraid to declare war and hire mercenaries. You will be left with 14+ inflation most likely but that can be handled later. After you take the first 3-4 provinces the ottomans are doomed. |
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| Skilledblob Germany. July 05 2011 10:13. Posts 2657 | Profile # |
so I play my first game with the mameluks and so far it's looking ok.
I conquered Lybia, Saudi-Arabia and Iraq and vassaled Etopia
I am at 1440 right now and everywhere I got revolts right now because the game thought it would be fun to send 2 comets after each other destroying my stability.
What bugs me tho is that my technology advancement is basically zero because I have to take all the taxes and spend them on my army to fight down the rebels. Which blows up my inflation too
And why can you only build one province improvement at a time ......Last edit: 2011-07-05 10:14:38 |
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| Fruscainte July 05 2011 10:20. Posts 4041 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 10:13 Skilledblob wrote:
so I play my first game with the mameluks and so far it's looking ok.
I conquered Lybia, Saudi-Arabia and Iraq and vassaled Etopia
I am at 1440 right now and everywhere I got revolts right now because the game thought it would be fun to send 2 comets after each other destroying my stability.
What bugs me tho is that my technology advancement is basically zero because I have to take all the taxes and spend them on my army to fight down the rebels. Which blows up my inflation too
And why can you only build one province improvement at a time ......
Never start out with Africa or Middle East when you are starting out. They have the best early game units, but get fucked in the ass in terms of tech. Start as a European power such as Castille.
And why are you putting your Treasury so high? Inflation wrecks your shit and stability.Last edit: 2011-07-05 10:21:32 |
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| Skilledblob Germany. July 05 2011 17:15. Posts 2657 | Profile # |
I have to put it so high so I can pay for my soldiers that i need to fight the rebels :/
edit: ok 10 years later I got completely destroyed by the OttomansLast edit: 2011-07-05 19:06:00 |
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| Fruscainte July 05 2011 21:55. Posts 4041 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 17:15 Skilledblob wrote:
I have to put it so high so I can pay for my soldiers that i need to fight the rebels :/
edit: ok 10 years later I got completely destroyed by the Ottomans
Well one, you shouldn't be playing a nation that big and relatively hard when you're first starting out. Second, you should only need ~10-15 regiments with maybe a general to handle infighting. You need to be making money per year, it does not matter if you are losing money per month. Like I said earlier, if you're starting out new play Castille. |
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| Euronyme Sweden. July 05 2011 21:59. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
On July 05 2011 17:15 Skilledblob wrote:
I have to put it so high so I can pay for my soldiers that i need to fight the rebels :/
edit: ok 10 years later I got completely destroyed by the Ottomans
You don't have to spend all that money on the army. They just lose.. What's it called.. Confidence or whatever, so it's not a big problem unless you're actually at war at the time.
Ok I've played this game for 3 days straight now (fuck you guys) basically 20 hours a day, and I still can't wrap my head around basically anything in the game.
Sometimes when a country is in an alliance with a country, every country in the world attacks you, whereas sometimes none gives a crap.
I play as France most of the time so it should be pretty easy.. but it's not for me lol.
Just reconquering France takes like aages, and even after 100 years I havn't taken nearly as much as the French guys did in history.
You lose 3 stability (even though you have a reason to attack) and the entire European continent thinks that that specific city state is baller as shit and comes in to help. You fight for eveeer, until at last you manage to get some half assed peace, because Austria has a bigger army than you etc etc etc.
And then you have to start over again.
I play on very easy with the easiest setting on everything.
I have a feeling there's some setting somewhere in the meny that makes you 15 times more powerful, because conquering Europe seems fucking impossible. |
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| Fruscainte July 05 2011 22:02. Posts 4041 | Profile Blog # |
On July 05 2011 21:59 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 17:15 Skilledblob wrote:
I have to put it so high so I can pay for my soldiers that i need to fight the rebels :/
edit: ok 10 years later I got completely destroyed by the Ottomans
You don't have to spend all that money on the army. They just lose.. What's it called.. Confidence or whatever, so it's not a big problem unless you're actually at war at the time. Ok I've played this game for 3 days straight now (fuck you guys) basically 20 hours a day, and I still can't wrap my head around basically anything in the game. Sometimes when a country is in an alliance with a country, every country in the world attacks you, whereas sometimes none gives a crap. I play as France most of the time so it should be pretty easy.. but it's not for me lol. Just reconquering France takes like aages, and even after 100 years I havn't taken nearly as much as the French guys did in history. You lose 3 stability (even though you have a reason to attack) and the entire European continent thinks that that specific city state is baller as shit and comes in to help. You fight for eveeer, until at last you manage to get some half assed peace, because Austria has a bigger army than you etc etc etc. And then you have to start over again. I play on very easy with the easiest setting on everything. I have a feeling there's some setting somewhere in the meny that makes you 15 times more powerful, because conquering Europe seems fucking impossible.
When you're going to war, it tells you who they are allied with and who has guaranteed protection with them. Pay attention to that. If you don't got a Casus Belli, you lose 2 stability + any other modifier you have. You need CB's to go to war -- ALWAYS. A lot of time if you got a legitimate CB, some of their allies won't show up on their ally list when you're in the Declare War screen. A mistake new players make is that they get a CB and declare war, but they don't click on the CB in the declare war screen so even though they got a CB they lose 2 stability because they didn't know you actually have to click on each individual CB.
And you should be peacefully annexing 90% of your Vassals around you over time while conquering Brittany and Burgandy while holding off England. The point of France is that they blow early on, but once you got Brittany + all of your Vassals peacefully annexed (except for one or two that you just conquer real fast later on when you can handle the European onslaught) you become a fucking powerhouse that no one can stop.
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| Euronyme Sweden. July 05 2011 22:33. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
On July 05 2011 22:02 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:59 Euronyme wrote:
On July 05 2011 17:15 Skilledblob wrote:
I have to put it so high so I can pay for my soldiers that i need to fight the rebels :/
edit: ok 10 years later I got completely destroyed by the Ottomans
You don't have to spend all that money on the army. They just lose.. What's it called.. Confidence or whatever, so it's not a big problem unless you're actually at war at the time. Ok I've played this game for 3 days straight now (fuck you guys) basically 20 hours a day, and I still can't wrap my head around basically anything in the game. Sometimes when a country is in an alliance with a country, every country in the world attacks you, whereas sometimes none gives a crap. I play as France most of the time so it should be pretty easy.. but it's not for me lol. Just reconquering France takes like aages, and even after 100 years I havn't taken nearly as much as the French guys did in history. You lose 3 stability (even though you have a reason to attack) and the entire European continent thinks that that specific city state is baller as shit and comes in to help. You fight for eveeer, until at last you manage to get some half assed peace, because Austria has a bigger army than you etc etc etc. And then you have to start over again. I play on very easy with the easiest setting on everything. I have a feeling there's some setting somewhere in the meny that makes you 15 times more powerful, because conquering Europe seems fucking impossible.
When you're going to war, it tells you who they are allied with and who has guaranteed protection with them. Pay attention to that. If you don't got a Casus Belli, you lose 2 stability + any other modifier you have. You need CB's to go to war -- ALWAYS. A lot of time if you got a legitimate CB, some of their allies won't show up on their ally list when you're in the Declare War screen. A mistake new players make is that they get a CB and declare war, but they don't click on the CB in the declare war screen so even though they got a CB they lose 2 stability because they didn't know you actually have to click on each individual CB. And you should be peacefully annexing 90% of your Vassals around you over time while conquering Brittany and Burgandy while holding off England. The point of France is that they blow early on, but once you got Brittany + all of your Vassals peacefully annexed (except for one or two that you just conquer real fast later on when you can handle the European onslaught) you become a fucking powerhouse that no one can stop.
I have CB, it's the French reunion thing. I'm declaring war with my vassals, and they have allies (NOT guaranteed protection!) and they all fucking come! Wel not always, but yeah.
How do you peacefully annex?
I get the instability not because I lack CB, but because they're my vasalls. I can't really do much about that afaik.
Also almost every smaller country has like a TL;DR list of allies, as they're in trading unions. How do you go about that? Just mass up any army and say 'come at me bro!' or what?
You can't really get a CB against every country you wanna invade. Is there any way to provoke a CB?
Edit: oh shit... There's a button right there... wow...
Thanks lol XD
I've managed to miss that for.. I dunno how long time.. O_OLast edit: 2011-07-05 22:40:17 |
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| NietzscheanKant Finland. July 05 2011 22:44. Posts 92 | Profile # | |
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| vyyye Sweden. July 05 2011 23:02. Posts 3905 | Profile # |
Fantastic game, trying to learn HoI3 currently but goddamn, that one's quite hard. Luckily EU3 is quite easy to get into once you get past the interface.
Current games.
Netherlands 1656:
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Sweden 1692:
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Always get bored around that era, when you get past the reforms you generally have so much money you can really do whatever, just not as exciting. Like in the Sweden game, I could go and take England but to what purpose? Already have more than enough money and England won't put up any challenge.
Same with Netherlands, next step would be to take India (notice I took one province on the island next to it). But that will be even more of a joke as the tech groups of everything in Asia makes them terrible, I had a tiny transport fleet of 9 ships defeat 24 of theirs.
Still, definitely one of my favorite games of all time. Just not as fun once you get to the unstoppable force standpoint, really should try some mods.
Oh and for any new players who got the game during Steam sales:
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| Skilledblob Germany. July 05 2011 23:18. Posts 2657 | Profile # |
| maybe try some non european countries |
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| Elektrobear July 05 2011 23:56. Posts 108 | Profile Blog # |
| Just played a few hours as Castille, finally figured out how infamy works in this game when England, france and Portugal ganged up on me for being too much of a dick. |
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| b3h47pte United States. July 06 2011 00:34. Posts 1306 | Profile Blog # |
I lost the game within 4 years. WOW.
I do not understand this game at all lol. |
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