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 Amber[LighT]   United States. July 18 2011 13:17. Posts 5078
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On July 18 2011 12:39 CreamyButter wrote:

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Ummm. Well. First order of business is of course ensuring that all mafia members are actively contributing to the thread. For the newer players, I might consider giving them a talking point, or else assigning one mafia to make an inconsequential "slip" in the thread, so that the less experienced mafia members can analyze properly without feeling guilty and without actually slipping up. I would pick the newest players and make sure they know what they're doing, basically, and if not I would help them compose their posts before they post them. After all mafia members are actively posting, I would try to shift the demographic being targeted in the thread to something less dangerous, such as lynching all lurkers.

Also, since there seems to be a zodiac/veteran list going up, I would make sure to elect a figurehead boss, so that the boss doesn't end up on the list.

From there, use PMs to harass/poke people and figure out what roles they have/infiltrate their circles >.> Avoid hitting vets, figure out where the hatter's bombs are before killing them, hit medics, boring stuff etc. I would be actively PMing, to make sure the town doesn't get up to anything worthwhile. Possibly coordinate PMs with other mafia members.

A priority is reaching out to the insane inmates, and integrating them into the mafia circle. With no rolechecker, though, I'm not sure how mafia would do this. I guess they would get the DT to check on someone who isn't in the known mafia circle, and if the DT claims that he's seeing red, then the guy being checked is probably insane because no 3rd party would set themselves as red. For this reason I might consider not killing DTs right away as long as he's being properly manipulated. Batman is useless because he can't claim and he can't reveal his findings, though.

From what I can tell, it is in mafia's best interest to get the 3rd parties lynched. The 3rd parties might randomly kill a mafia member at night, and might eat up night hits, and it is impossible to cooperate with them since they can't claim. I guess I would just leave random hints everywhere that someone (someone who isn't mafia) is Batman and hope he dies.

As a 3rd party player:
It seems to be in Joker's best interest for the game to end as quickly as possible, so he would keep mafia alive at first, so that their KP is higher. Batman and Ra'as, on the other hand, want to keep the game running longer, so that they have time to hunt. As Batman I would default to rolechecking, and killing only when either confirmed or if one side seems like it's winning. As Ra'as I would target lurkers/useless seeming people until I get a read.

There seems to be enough vigilante advice, so maybe it's time to stop with that. As for DT advice though,

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I agree that DTs should check the newer, more easy ignorable players, instead of the vets. Since as a DT you can only trust a red reading, there's no way to try and build a circle around yourself. It would also be much easier to get a newer, inactive, partially illiterate player lynched than an old one. So check people that you think yourself capable of actually getting lynched i guess.

I have to study/class, will be back later today. I don't really know how to give/identify good analysis, but I'm fully open to being tested/asked stupid questions to see if I screw up, so feel free to send me PMs.


Why would we do this and how would you even pick a person to be in that position? I don't think anyone should automatically get off a list "just because."

You are right about the idea of lynching all lurkers; however it contradicts with the idea that mafia members would be active in this game. Why would we policy A if idea B means policy A could not reveal scum? I'm always under the assumption that mafia are the best when lurking. The less information they post, the harder it is to trap them. Check out Closed Casket for a perfect example of a mafia team that was able to skate away without posting much information.

There is going to be a ton of KP tonight if we don't organize our shots. How do we want to handle our hatters? I think they should avoid flipping the switch too quickly and focus on strategic bomb placements. They should NEVER reveal themselves as they are ideal RB targets.

Veterans should also be prepared to take hits, so I hope you guys are leading town discussion. You guys are going to be very powerful when it comes to late game as you can get a +1 life back.

Vigis should consider targeting inactive players, or players who are lynch suspects, or just not shoot at all. Do we want to keep our vigilantes from firing?

I would like to hear from some of the newer players, since there's a LOT of you guys. I didn't realize there were so many ^_____^
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 Mr. Wiggles   Canada. July 18 2011 13:22. Posts 4685
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On July 18 2011 13:14 Pyo wrote:

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I might be a "newb" but from my limited experience, pretty much every time someone comes out with one of these massive long policy spam posts, they've been scum. Just sayin'


Meh, it's a null-tell again. Examples, GM in Real-Time Mafia, Kavdragon in Pick Your Power Insane. Both making long posts trying to direct town at the beginning, both town. Also, if you think my post is spam, please point out how. If you read it, I specifically say I'm not going to write a general how to play town guide, just give a little bit of general advice against what's made town lose in about three of the last four games I've played, and then talked about how to use clues properly and that killing Joker is a high priority for town. It's not even that massive either, haha.
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 redFF   United States. July 18 2011 13:31. Posts 3889
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To be fair there are a lot of new players, people trying to guide and teach aren't auto scum. EG kav in 38 getting lynched day 1 by drh.
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 VisceraEyes   United States. July 18 2011 13:38. Posts 9723
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I'm going to start off by saying something super-scummy, followed up by a tunnel of an inactive, and wrap it up with some insanely scummy comment that gets me lynched in the 11th hour.

Anyone object?
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 Nisani201   United States. July 18 2011 13:43. Posts 1398
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OKHERESTHEPLAN

The Green players will serve as a RETARD MAGNET, subtly hinting that they are blue, and drawing out the Mafia's KP. Then, we will thrust our might lynching dick into their army, and immediately kill them.
Enjoy your day.
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 Sevryn   July 18 2011 13:49. Posts 694
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On July 18 2011 13:43 Nisani201 wrote:
OKHERESTHEPLAN

The Green players will serve as a RETARD MAGNET, subtly hinting that they are blue, and drawing out the Mafia's KP. Then, we will thrust our might lynching dick into their army, and immediately kill them.

Even though this is most likely a joke I feel like its encouraging falsehood and while its good to have fun I would ask you to not risk taking away from a good pro town mood with a cheap dick and retard joke.
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 Nisani201   United States. July 18 2011 13:53. Posts 1398
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You're right, that was a joke (search youtube for "retard magnet.") However on a more serious note I don't see how the idea could hurt town. I'd like to hear other people's opinions.
Enjoy your day.
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 ribboo   Sweden. July 18 2011 13:57. Posts 1840
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On July 18 2011 12:38 redFF wrote:

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I think it was a joke...

Joking and sarcasm doesn't seem to smart, no matter how obvious it is. It's the internet!
 
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 gtrsrs   United States. July 18 2011 14:14. Posts 4416
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hey y'all
been waiting all day for day 1 to drop so i could post early
as soon as i start drinking it drops
now here i am a bit later, a few drinks in and i can't be arsed to read already
DAMN YOU ALCOHOL
anyways as is my usual status quo, i'm just gonna claim straight up and immediately
i'm a townie (inmate?) i'm green. no powers. not mafia. i haven't lied yet in a game (to be fair, i haven't been mafia yet either). i'm a bit insulted that whoever put out the vets/newbs list put me as a newb. i'm both singlehandedly won and lost two separate games for town already and i've got games and games of epicmafia under my belt
WHEN WILL YOU REPSECT ME

anyways. wiggles, i dig the pro-town-ness already. you're like the palmar in RTM of this game. go you. i like when people take charge.
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 Coagulation   United States. July 18 2011 14:22. Posts 7561
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Silence Newb
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 gtrsrs   United States. July 18 2011 14:24. Posts 4416
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^does that count as one of coagulation's 5 posts?
cause i can do that all day
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 redFF   United States. July 18 2011 14:29. Posts 3889
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SILENCE NEWB
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 Coagulation   United States. July 18 2011 14:34. Posts 7561
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isnt gtrsrs the guy that made Kenpachi RAGEQUIT?
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 Curu   Canada. July 18 2011 14:34. Posts 2759
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lol, so you basically dropped in to tell us you're going to be useless?

Great. A VT claim doesn't help Town at all either. You're just introducing yourself as mislynch bait or gambiting Mafia now or a whole load of other WIFOM crap. Can you provide a single pro Town reason why you would claim VT?

I hope you're just drunk and not really going to be a destructive force like this if you really are Town.
wat
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 redFF   United States. July 18 2011 14:37. Posts 3889
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On July 18 2011 14:34 Curu wrote:
lol, so you basically dropped in to tell us you're going to be useless?

Great. A VT claim doesn't help Town at all either. You're just introducing yourself as mislynch bait or gambiting Mafia now or a whole load of other WIFOM crap. Can you provide a single pro Town reason why you would claim VT?

I hope you're just drunk and not really going to be a destructive force like this if you really are Town.

lol read XL
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 Curu   Canada. July 18 2011 14:39. Posts 2759
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On July 18 2011 14:37 redFF wrote:

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lol read XL


Be a dear and summarize for me?

I'm inclined to believe he's Town simply because he had 2 absolutely useless posts that basically said "I'm not going to be actively playing lulz" in World at War 2 Mafia too when he was Town. But he's still going to be prime mislynch bait going into later game. Sigh.
wat
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 Pyo   United States. July 18 2011 14:49. Posts 736
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On July 18 2011 13:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

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Meh, it's a null-tell again. Examples, GM in Real-Time Mafia, Kavdragon in Pick Your Power Insane. Both making long posts trying to direct town at the beginning, both town. Also, if you think my post is spam, please point out how. If you read it, I specifically say I'm not going to write a general how to play town guide, just give a little bit of general advice against what's made town lose in about three of the last four games I've played, and then talked about how to use clues properly and that killing Joker is a high priority for town. It's not even that massive either, haha.


All you did in your post was herpa-derp the premise of the game. It's not meaningful in any way shape or form. I realize that people can meta-game that shit by always posting that crap at the beginning of their games so that whenever they are mafia it doesn't look so suspicious, but in general it's a really bad way to play if you really are town.
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 ghrur   United States. July 18 2011 15:02. Posts 2634
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On July 18 2011 14:14 gtrsrs wrote:
anyways. wiggles, i dig the pro-town-ness already. you're like the palmar in RTM of this game. go you. i like when people take charge.


Please don't make the mistake gtrsrs already made. It doesn't do anything to say someone looks pro-town. All it might do is lure us into a sense of complacency about the player, which is bad. Scum hunting is better than town-checking. :/
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 Kenpachi   United States. July 18 2011 15:08. Posts 9008
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hi guys. Im Kenpachi and im a Townie. Kinda lame cause i wanted to be awesome.
I'm definitely in my zone.
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 Coagulation   United States. July 18 2011 15:11. Posts 7561
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Hi kenpachi
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