| Mig United States. July 09 2011 11:03. Posts 3531 | Profile Blog # |
| Yea I am sure there will be plenty of nukes shot off today but I meant the game is going to take an eternity to finish if every day and night post continues to be late. The first full day/night cycle has taken 5 real days at this point. |
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| Mr. Wiggles Canada. July 09 2011 11:12. Posts 4685 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote:
I'm pretty sure Amber is being sarcastic. Every town is trigger happy.
That reminds me, I need to run my day vigi game at some point. I predict a town loss in less than two days for that too.
Is that where everyone is a day-vig? You could break that game, maybe  |
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 GMarshal United States. July 09 2011 11:15. Posts 20828 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2011 11:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote:
I'm pretty sure Amber is being sarcastic. Every town is trigger happy.
That reminds me, I need to run my day vigi game at some point. I predict a town loss in less than two days for that too.
Is that where everyone is a day-vig? You could break that game, maybe
Its slightly more complex than "everyone is a day vigi" among other things day vigin'g ends the day, and the mafia has day vigi shots too, to avoid the "make everyone shoot" syndrome. Blues get to choose between shooting and performing night actions. |
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| Jackal58 United States. July 09 2011 11:28. Posts 4264 | Profile # |
On July 09 2011 11:15 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 11:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 09 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote:
I'm pretty sure Amber is being sarcastic. Every town is trigger happy.
That reminds me, I need to run my day vigi game at some point. I predict a town loss in less than two days for that too.
Is that where everyone is a day-vig? You could break that game, maybe
Its slightly more complex than "everyone is a day vigi" among other things day vigin'g ends the day, and the mafia has day vigi shots too, to avoid the "make everyone shoot" syndrome. Blues get to choose between shooting and performing night actions.
Give everybody a bomb. Except Coag. Then watch him blow up. |
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| Palmar Iceland. July 09 2011 17:19. Posts 7587 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2011 11:15 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 11:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 09 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote:
I'm pretty sure Amber is being sarcastic. Every town is trigger happy.
That reminds me, I need to run my day vigi game at some point. I predict a town loss in less than two days for that too.
Is that where everyone is a day-vig? You could break that game, maybe
Its slightly more complex than "everyone is a day vigi" among other things day vigin'g ends the day, and the mafia has day vigi shots too, to avoid the "make everyone shoot" syndrome. Blues get to choose between shooting and performing night actions.
similar to caller's soviet thing then? |
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| ketomai United States. July 09 2011 17:27. Posts 2406 | Profile # |
| Are there spots left? If so I wanna try : ). |
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| CreamyButter United States. July 09 2011 19:12. Posts 56 | Profile # |
| Hi can I try? I've never played before but i promise to show up and stuff, reading through TL guides now. |
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| Palmar Iceland. July 09 2011 19:57. Posts 7587 | Profile Blog # |
@the new guys.
Just please, please, please be aware that this game is a fuckton of work. if you want to really participate it's 2h+ daily, and especially as new players it requires a stupid amount of time to read through.
But, if you do in fact realize this, welcome!
I would recommend reading Ver's guide, and reading through at least one game. GMarshal's Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia series is pretty good. |
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| Nisani201 United States. July 10 2011 01:19. Posts 1398 | Profile # |
| Wouldn't it be better for them to read a Normal game and not a mini one? |
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| Varpulis United States. July 10 2011 01:31. Posts 2356 | Profile Blog # |
On July 10 2011 01:19 Nisani201 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for them to read a Normal game and not a mini one?
Mini games are smaller ==> less reading
Normal games often get the shit spammed out of them, so reading a smaller game can be more educational.
That said, I wouldn't recommend this game to a first-time player. The combination of PMs, clues, and the higher than normal activity requirement do not cater to a new player, in my opinion. |
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| ketomai United States. July 10 2011 04:26. Posts 2406 | Profile # |
| I've played one before but it was a long time ago before my name change. I'll still do what you suggest though. |
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| BloodyC0bbler Canada. July 10 2011 07:02. Posts 6662 | Profile Blog # |
On July 10 2011 01:31 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 01:19 Nisani201 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for them to read a Normal game and not a mini one?
Mini games are smaller ==> less reading Normal games often get the shit spammed out of them, so reading a smaller game can be more educational. That said, I wouldn't recommend this game to a first-time player. The combination of PMs, clues, and the higher than normal activity requirement do not cater to a new player, in my opinion.
Most of the long standing members on the forum all started in games with pm's clues and analysis and the like. I honestly believe with such varying ways to play that this is more ideal to a newbie than a game that solely requires behavioural analysis. Behavioural analysis is by far the hardest skillset to learn and giving newer players a chance to play in different ways is far more advantageous. Or at least it is in my mind. |
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| RebirthOfLeGenD USA. July 10 2011 12:06. Posts 5342 | Profile Blog # |
| Well to disagree a bit BC, I think clues are a worthless skill set to have. Unless a player sucks at making clues, they are generally heavily extrapolated from the original idea and can be so incredibly subjective. I think PM abuse is an incredibly important skill set to learn and know, while clue analysis is worthless and just leads to missed lynches and faulty case support. I'd say PM abuse + behavior analysis are extremely useful since many set ups allow for both to be conventional tools that are also very consistently powerful. Conversely, clues are not consistent in how useful they can be, and the skill set is worthless in developing. |
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| Qatol United States. July 10 2011 12:07. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On July 10 2011 07:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 01:31 Varpulis wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:19 Nisani201 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for them to read a Normal game and not a mini one?
Mini games are smaller ==> less reading Normal games often get the shit spammed out of them, so reading a smaller game can be more educational. That said, I wouldn't recommend this game to a first-time player. The combination of PMs, clues, and the higher than normal activity requirement do not cater to a new player, in my opinion.
Most of the long standing members on the forum all started in games with pm's clues and analysis and the like. I honestly believe with such varying ways to play that this is more ideal to a newbie than a game that solely requires behavioural analysis. Behavioural analysis is by far the hardest skillset to learn and giving newer players a chance to play in different ways is far more advantageous. Or at least it is in my mind.
Agreed on the clue part. I don't think it matters too much if you're new or not. If anything, this is better for newbies in a way. It gives them something to try and contribute so they don't just follow the analysis of whomever they think the best player is. As long as the new player attempts to learn behavioral analysis as well, it gives them something which may be productive to do while they're learning.
That being said, I'm not a fan of PMs from a newbie standpoint because of secret club syndrome and overworking the "elite" players. |
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| Hyaach Singapore. July 10 2011 12:57. Posts 1725 | Profile Blog # |
just reread front page.
don't like PM games.
gonna
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thx |
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| Nisani201 United States. July 10 2011 13:27. Posts 1398 | Profile # | |
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| sandroba Brazil. July 10 2011 21:19. Posts 3115 | Profile # |
| New players are just shy. Most of them have a ton of smart stuff to share but somehow they feel intimidatedby the more experienced players. Some of the new players have really suprised me when they start talking. |
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| Varpulis United States. July 10 2011 22:37. Posts 2356 | Profile Blog # |
| Nobody sign up for this for around 10 days, ya hear? (see rants on pages 1 and 2 for more details) |
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| Pyo United States. July 10 2011 23:12. Posts 736 | Profile # |
On July 10 2011 22:37 Varpulis wrote:
Nobody sign up for this for around 10 days, ya hear? (see rants on pages 1 and 2 for more details)
At the current rate things seem to be going, I think you'll be fine... |
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| CreamyButter United States. July 10 2011 23:55. Posts 56 | Profile # |
| Possibly dumb questions about not being able to roleclaim as batman/joker/ra'as: What if someone figures out who you are? Do you have to keep denying it? Also, what if you're trying to strike a deal (if that even happens)? How can you ask other people to help you find batman/joker/ra'as without making it obvious who you are? |
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