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| moltenlead Canada. July 15 2011 06:55. Posts 855 | Profile # |
The end.
I can't feel anything. I can't do anything. I can't perceive anything.
Also, my religion calls for cremation, so yeah, I won't be locked in a casket for a few 100 years before I decompose. |
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| blankspace United States. July 15 2011 06:56. Posts 286 | Profile Blog # |
Well some of you guys are saying it'll be like "before we were born." Well obviously, in either case we didn't "exist."
But see, the complete absence of experience is something unfathomable for us. Nobody can even imagine what it's like, so it's almost like heading into a different dimension  . I just hope my death isn't too painful though. |
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| Olinim July 15 2011 06:59. Posts 3982 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
Because some people actually care about the truth? Must be a foreign concept to you I realize, especially after reading your post. Some people aren't so pathetically empty that they need a God to find any meaning in life, I'm sorry that you are. |
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| JAN0L Poland. July 15 2011 07:00. Posts 205 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference. |
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 Myles United States. July 15 2011 07:01. Posts 4096 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
A person such as myself(I won't speak for all atheists/agnostics) doesn't take solace in unsupported beliefs that are intended to make people feel better. I feel better when I know the truth, even if the truth sucks(which is why I consider myself agnostic and not atheist, since the only evidence around is a lack there of). Though I will agree that some atheists definitely take their views to a point that borders on faith, which I find ironic.
To that end, my beliefs are similar to those who have posted before. When you die, your brain stops and you experience nothing. Similar to being asleep except no dreams, but the same in that if were possible to revive you years down the line you would 'wake up' in the same way.
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:02:20 |
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| whaty0uwant New Zealand. July 15 2011 07:02. Posts 346 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
Lol just lol. Region. It's hilarious...
As a Maori, when you die your friends and family go through what is called a Tangi (Maori word for funeral), basically it's a three day event which the body is in a coffin in the middle of a marai, friends and family gather round and share stories about the deceased, sing songs, hakas, all that stuff. After the three days you are taken to either your burial grounds or the cremation place.
Other than that its pretty standard in New Zealand, you die, about three days later there's a funeral, friends, family gather round and share the love. Expensive as fuck.Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:05:17 |
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| Olinim July 15 2011 07:04. Posts 3982 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
A person such as myself(I won't speak for all atheists/agnostics) doesn't take solace in unsupported beliefs that are intended to make people feel better. I feel better when I know the truth, even if the truth sucks(which is why I consider myself agnostic and not atheist, since the only evidence around is a lack there of). Though I will agree that some atheists definitely take their views to a point that borders on faith, which I find ironic. To that end, my beliefs are similar to those who have posted before. When you die, your brain stops and you experience nothing. Similar to being asleep except no dreams, but the same in that if were possible to revive you years down the line you would 'wake up' in the same way.
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
You can be agnostic and an atheist...agnostic atheist. Just saying :/Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:04:24 |
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| Vain Netherlands. July 15 2011 07:06. Posts 1103 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
You don't kill yourself because you are "programmed" not to. Species who kill themselves for no apparent reason don't do very well evolutionary. Being dead is the same as before you were born. I don't know about you guys but i actually like being alive over non-existing even without an afterlife. And dude, what's the good thing about an afterlife over no afterlife? |
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| JAN0L Poland. July 15 2011 07:07. Posts 205 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
but do you care about some good meal you had 2 years ago for example?Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:07:43 |
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| Myles United States. July 15 2011 07:07. Posts 4096 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:04 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
A person such as myself(I won't speak for all atheists/agnostics) doesn't take solace in unsupported beliefs that are intended to make people feel better. I feel better when I know the truth, even if the truth sucks(which is why I consider myself agnostic and not atheist, since the only evidence around is a lack there of). Though I will agree that some atheists definitely take their views to a point that borders on faith, which I find ironic. To that end, my beliefs are similar to those who have posted before. When you die, your brain stops and you experience nothing. Similar to being asleep except no dreams, but the same in that if were possible to revive you years down the line you would 'wake up' in the same way.
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
You can be agnostic and an atheist...agnostic atheist. Just saying :/
I could be wrong, but I thought Atheist believed there was no God, while Agnostics weren't sure. That's why I find Atheism ironic, they seem so sure there is no God in the same way religious people are sure there is.
EDIT: Guess my view of an Atheist would actually be considered a Dogmatic Atheist, but I should have expected there are a number of varieties. Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:11:26 |
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| Myles United States. July 15 2011 07:08. Posts 4096 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:07 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
but do you care about some good meal you had 2 years ago for example?
Depends. If it was a good meal with family and friends, such as after my Uncle's funeral, then absolutely. If it was just a random meal of some of my favorite food, then not as much. May I ask what the point is? |
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| Olinim July 15 2011 07:09. Posts 3982 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 07:07 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:04 Olinim wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
A person such as myself(I won't speak for all atheists/agnostics) doesn't take solace in unsupported beliefs that are intended to make people feel better. I feel better when I know the truth, even if the truth sucks(which is why I consider myself agnostic and not atheist, since the only evidence around is a lack there of). Though I will agree that some atheists definitely take their views to a point that borders on faith, which I find ironic. To that end, my beliefs are similar to those who have posted before. When you die, your brain stops and you experience nothing. Similar to being asleep except no dreams, but the same in that if were possible to revive you years down the line you would 'wake up' in the same way.
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
You can be agnostic and an atheist...agnostic atheist. Just saying :/
I could be wrong, but I thought Atheist believed there was no God, while Agnostics weren't sure. That's why I find Atheism ironic, they seem so sure there is no God in the same way religious people are sure there is.
Gnostic atheists "know" there is no God.
Agnostic atheists lack a belief in god but don't know for sure. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, theism/atheism with belief. I lack a belief in a deity, but I don't claim to KNOW one doesn't exist, so I'm an agnostic atheist. You sound like an agnostic atheist to me.Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:11:28 |
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 IzieBoy United States. July 15 2011 07:09. Posts 865 | Profile Blog # |
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| JAN0L Poland. July 15 2011 07:12. Posts 205 | Profile # |
On July 15 2011 07:08 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:07 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
but do you care about some good meal you had 2 years ago for example?
Depends. If it was a good meal with family and friends, such as after my Uncle's funeral, then absolutely. If it was just a random meal of some of my favorite food, then not as much. May I ask what the point is?
My point is that we exist only in one point in time, whatever pleasure we had in the past doesn't matter. |
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| Koltt July 15 2011 07:12. Posts 55 | Profile # |
| Life is inherently meaningless - everything you do means absolutely nothing. Just think about it for a moment; there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand in all the world's oceans combined. What one person on this planet does, no matter how great, means literally nothing. Despite this, it is up to the individual to make life meaningful. |
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| Myles United States. July 15 2011 07:14. Posts 4096 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:12 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:08 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:07 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
but do you care about some good meal you had 2 years ago for example?
Depends. If it was a good meal with family and friends, such as after my Uncle's funeral, then absolutely. If it was just a random meal of some of my favorite food, then not as much. May I ask what the point is?
My point is that we exist only in one point in time, whatever pleasure we had in the past doesn't matter.
Actually I think it does. A pleasurable past gives you pleasure in the present when you think about your past. At the same time, people who have had a bad past try to avoid it as it gives them bad feelings when thinking/confronted with it. |
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| Vain Netherlands. July 15 2011 07:15. Posts 1103 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:12 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:08 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:07 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
but do you care about some good meal you had 2 years ago for example?
Depends. If it was a good meal with family and friends, such as after my Uncle's funeral, then absolutely. If it was just a random meal of some of my favorite food, then not as much. May I ask what the point is?
My point is that we exist only in one point in time, whatever pleasure we had in the past doesn't matter.
I think it does. Do good memories contribute to your overall feeling of happiness? For me it does. If it doesn't do that for you well then your really living in the moment and your point is valid for you but not for me.
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| LazinCajun United States. July 15 2011 07:15. Posts 294 | Profile # |
On July 14 2011 23:13 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:57 LazinCajun wrote:
On July 14 2011 22:38 manniefresh wrote:atheist and agnostic views of death are depressing 
Oh for sure! Eternal pain, agony, fire and brimstone is much more bright and cheery! 
According to Sapolsky, neuroscientist at Stanford, atheists have significantly higher incidences of depression than do theists. Source; StanfordUniversity neuroscience lecture series on youtube.
This isn't relevant in the slightest to the discussion... I was just making the point that death is pretty depressing for most people regardless of religious views. |
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| Release United States. July 15 2011 07:16. Posts 3973 | Profile Blog # |
On July 15 2011 07:09 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 07:07 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:04 Olinim wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:01 Myles wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
A person such as myself(I won't speak for all atheists/agnostics) doesn't take solace in unsupported beliefs that are intended to make people feel better. I feel better when I know the truth, even if the truth sucks(which is why I consider myself agnostic and not atheist, since the only evidence around is a lack there of). Though I will agree that some atheists definitely take their views to a point that borders on faith, which I find ironic. To that end, my beliefs are similar to those who have posted before. When you die, your brain stops and you experience nothing. Similar to being asleep except no dreams, but the same in that if were possible to revive you years down the line you would 'wake up' in the same way.
On July 15 2011 07:00 JAN0L wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:46 rel wrote:You guys actually die? Hahaha. The idea that nothing happens afterwards is absurd. What's the fucking point of being here then, to just do random shit with nothing to build forwards too? Atheist's are certainly an interesting bunch, the most peculiar thing is how they try to interweave themselves into religious discussions then turn around with "It's not a religion". I know a lot of good people that are Atheist, but I really just feel sorry for them. Even on a larger scale of reasoning, even if they wasn't a God, why would you want to convince yourself there isn't. Since when you die, you're "non existent" anymore, so what does it matter. At least you would have some kind of support, even if it isn't real. Dunno, just my two cent. attack me if you wish, but remember you never really existed so it all doesn't matter hahaha.
thats one of the things I've been thinking about. If when I'm dead I cease to exist why I don't kill myself just now, in the end there is no difference.
There is no difference in the end. The reason you shouldn't kill yourself now is that you probably have a lot longer to live and enjoy your life. The fact that when you die it all goes away doesn't take away from the enjoyment you have when you're alive.
You can be agnostic and an atheist...agnostic atheist. Just saying :/
I could be wrong, but I thought Atheist believed there was no God, while Agnostics weren't sure. That's why I find Atheism ironic, they seem so sure there is no God in the same way religious people are sure there is.
Gnostic atheists "know" there is no God. Agnostic atheists lack a belief in god but don't know for sure. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, theism/atheism with belief. I lack a belief in a deity, but I don't claim to KNOW one doesn't exist, so I'm an agnostic atheist. You sound like an agnostic atheist to me.
By your definition, i would have to call myself an Gnostic Atheist. I think people, such as me, are gnostic because we were taught science in school, and based on science, there is no proof.
I never thought about how there's no sex after death. Sounds terrifying.Last edit: 2011-07-15 07:16:32 |
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| Mvz July 15 2011 07:18. Posts 206 | Profile # |
| I don't fear death. I don't believe in life after death either. I think this is because my life is pretty boring and my zest for life is not on top. |
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