On July 16 2011 06:22 LiOn wrote: This is embarrassing and really cheap of SK tbh. They had like MaDFroG in the early days of SC2, but just to "buy" too big Names aint really shine thru, people don´t even care what freaking team name players have, they enjoy the games of them.
I imagine oGs can effort it easy to bring them to non-Korean tourneys, so this is just big deep shitz. *huge golf clap*
Wait, there is an organization out there that is just willing to throw money into the sc2 scene? What a terrible, terrible thing!
On July 15 2011 22:36 Aphasie wrote: "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken" - Tyler Durden
I really dont see what SK gaming has to gain from this. They are borrowing players that has loyalties elsewhere. Its a publicity stunt that does not make a team, doesnt give backbone, has no investment towards the future. I mean if MC and Nada does well i think its a lot easier for them to get sponsors and such but its just a fad. Once they decide to leave, SK gaming will die again. And i really dont see SK gaming building up a mercenary team of pro koreans that can participate in team leagues or have a base outside of korea.
Also, Sk has always seemed like a shady and greedy team to me. Lets see what happens with the koreans.
Highly doubt it. If anything SK will buy out more top tier kr players and set up a pro house in the us. Or just pick some awesome dudes from kr gmaster ladder
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Vimsey United Kingdom. July 16 2011 07:03. Posts 1773
reading all the hurt in this thread kind of made me laugh.
First of all it's not impressive that you've never heard of SK gaming (15 % of posts in this thread). it only shows you are kind of a newbie and an ignorant when it comes to esports in general. SK as an organization is older than TL.
some people were saying that the clan tag would be SK-TL oGs, now really have you ever seen an oGs team member present himself or be presented as oGs-TL? no, because that's not the type of agreement that TL has with oGs.
on the other hand SK gaming is being represented by these players and that's it. There will be no oGs Nada at dreamhack. the player Nada is representing team SK and he will be SK|Nada.
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Reading some of the comments people are suggesting that oGs are doing SK the favour, but lets be honest SK holds a tighter grip on the E-sports scene. Of course BW is famous in Korea, and the first to introduce _real_ "pro gaming" but SK over the years have still achieved way more. Yet, may seem irrelevant but after time players from SK's previous CS team have claimed that SK have not been the most loyal towards their players. (in terms of prize distribution)
May have been misleading with that post, I'm not comparing SK to Korean pro gaming as a whole, but to oGs.
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Reignx United States. July 16 2011 07:11. Posts 26
AKA SK just dumped thousands of dollars on OGS lap and basically said HELP US NOT SUCK AT SC2 PLZ and ogs is like ok heres our two top players enjoy =)! so now Sk wont look so bad in the RTS scene since really SK is predominantly FPS. Really This doesn't change shit other then MC and Nada will be able to go to more foreign tournaments and OGS doesn't have to dish out the cash to send them. otherwise this news is a waste of time to read and completely irrelevant.
Arcanne United States. July 16 2011 07:12. Posts 1505
I don't have a problem with them buying their way into the sc2 scene, the problem is they aren't buying their way in ? They are "borrowing" them outside of Korea. MC \ Nada basically plays for 2 teams now, and nobody will associate MC \ Nada with SK. Its just a bad idea all around
On July 16 2011 07:06 Manimal_pro wrote: reading all the hurt in this thread kind of made me laugh.
First of all it's not impressive that you've never heard of SK gaming (15 % of posts in this thread). it only shows you are kind of a newbie and an ignorant when it comes to esports in general. SK as an organization is older than TL.
You must be a fool. Many people from BW followed the BW scene only (why would we follow any oher scene when BW was the game we played) and SK failed hard with getting into that game so it's not so strange if people never heard of SK.
And cute quote "SK.Nada & SK.MC owning the scene" rofl. You must be some kind of SK fanboy since you got so butthurt when people didn't know about SK.
Greatness United States. July 16 2011 07:22. Posts 448
On July 16 2011 07:21 papaz wrote: It seems like a bad idea because no one will see either nada or mc as SK.
Id rather spend money on actually trying to build a team.
I kind of agree with this. They honestly could've done a better job of spreading their brand name by making the agreement with WMF instead. (And to be honest, I still find myself thinking of Lyn as SK.Lyn anyways.)
SK Gaming is huge and now they are geniuses for getting these two players to play for them outside of Korea. Would be interesting to see who else they try to pick up as SC2 continues to grow at a ridiculous rate. MC and Nada, all they need is a Top Zerg and they are complete. Maybe oGsZenio lol
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CosmicSpiral United States. July 16 2011 07:32. Posts 7592
On July 16 2011 07:23 Ghad wrote: I just can't wrap my head around this whole deal. You would think SK must be interested in building a real SC2 team.
With their recent failure I'm sure that they're hesitant to try again, plus most of the best talent in Europe and NA has already been picked up. The Korean teams aren't exactly rolling in money either and any of them would be happy to get financial support. This is a move to get a legitimate presence in SC2 and (hopefully) start the building blocks for their own team. But there's no indication of the latter yet. Their handling of their old SC2 team makes me seriously doubt their understanding of the scene and how to get results out of their players.
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fishjie United States. July 16 2011 07:41. Posts 574
On July 16 2011 06:22 LiOn wrote: This is embarrassing and really cheap of SK tbh. They had like MaDFroG in the early days of SC2, but just to "buy" too big Names aint really shine thru, people don´t even care what freaking team name players have, they enjoy the games of them.
I imagine oGs can effort it easy to bring them to non-Korean tourneys, so this is just big deep shitz. *huge golf clap*
Wait, there is an organization out there that is just willing to throw money into the sc2 scene? What a terrible, terrible thing!
seriously
why do nerds find fault with everything
its disgusting
Zeddicus United States. July 16 2011 07:52. Posts 233
On July 16 2011 06:22 LiOn wrote: This is embarrassing and really cheap of SK tbh. They had like MaDFroG in the early days of SC2, but just to "buy" too big Names aint really shine thru, people don´t even care what freaking team name players have, they enjoy the games of them.
I imagine oGs can effort it easy to bring them to non-Korean tourneys, so this is just big deep shitz. *huge golf clap*
Wait, there is an organization out there that is just willing to throw money into the sc2 scene? What a terrible, terrible thing!
seriously
why do nerds find fault with everything
its disgusting
It's our nature. I'd bet a lot of us here were the ones in High School relentlessly arguing with the teacher trying to get a 98% instead of a 97%, when in the end it didn't really matter at all, an A is an A.
I think the biggest problem is the wording. "Representing" What does that mean? A player playing for a team represents said team when they play a tournamen, but they would also be representing a sponsor. It's kind of ambiguous.
Also, I don't think it's a bad thing. Reading the first pages here, most comments are along the lines of "This feels weird" which is far from "This is bad". It's just an odd thing.
On July 16 2011 06:25 Slasher wrote: This entire thread sounds like sour grapes from a TL community over two players not being on 'their' team, which they never were in the first place.
There's a problem with your perception then, cuz I'm pretty much a TL anti fan, with the exception of Tyler. Yet I am still against this ridiculous deal and expressed myself so in ~4-5 posts.
On July 16 2011 06:02 Naughty wrote: I See little point in what SK is doing besides trying to buy there way into SC2. Unless SK has intentions to train other players with MC/NaDa to buid a team (Does not appear the be the case) than what they are doing is a rather lame move.
After all it is SK gaming though, it should be expected.
No different to how other top european teams are operating at the moment. They have all been acquiring players from smaller teams as they always have done in other esports.
Also no different to complexity buying Root or FXO recruiting players from all over the world. Its just that they are starting later than the others.
Which other european teams are you talking about? aAa, mouz, mTw and ESC were all active in SC:BW previously... and not in the pitiful way of SK's attempt then.
coL, too, actually had an SC2 squad of their own and they bought ROOT, instead of borrowing their players. Same for FXO.
On July 16 2011 06:22 LiOn wrote: This is embarrassing and really cheap of SK tbh. They had like MaDFroG in the early days of SC2, but just to "buy" too big Names aint really shine thru, people don´t even care what freaking team name players have, they enjoy the games of them.
I imagine oGs can effort it easy to bring them to non-Korean tourneys, so this is just big deep shitz. *huge golf clap*
Wait, there is an organization out there that is just willing to throw money into the sc2 scene? What a terrible, terrible thing!
On July 15 2011 18:56 shinyA wrote: Seems kind of pointless TBH~
It makes more sense if you remember SK.reis has been interpreting for koreans at IEM, dreamhack and homestorycup.
I've actually considered the possibility that his work was following this intention from the very beginning. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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On July 16 2011 07:06 Manimal_pro wrote: some people were saying that the clan tag would be SK-TL oGs, now really have you ever seen an oGs team member present himself or be presented as oGs-TL? no, because that's not the type of agreement that TL has with oGs.
on the other hand SK gaming is being represented by these players and that's it. There will be no oGs Nada at dreamhack. the player Nada is representing team SK and he will be SK|Nada.
I know that you meant to say something else, but you weren't very clear, so this picture is of relevance. They are collaborating on the team house and count as one team in GSTL.
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