Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please.
| HitMonkie Australia. July 18 2011 16:35. Posts 518 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 16:30 ReachTheSky wrote:
so i wonder if there are going to be any longterm repercussions of this. He tried to rob esports of monies ;/
Probably not.
I doubt Sixjax would do anything either, He is probably their best player, so they wont do anything to him.
The only repercussions to this is that he may not be welcome to any further SEA tournaments.
Most will probably think, that it is not a big deal. Which it may not be.
But I will say this, SEA is growing and if SEA does create bigger Tournaments for bigger prize money. Maybe he will regret what he did when he is not allowed to participate. |
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| Tppz! Germany. July 18 2011 16:35. Posts 1311 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 16:27 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads 
Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that?
I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means? I thought TL would be the place of mannered and nice ppl. But it seems taht most ppl are only able to yell at each other in an unfriendly tone.
What does him being hispanic have to do with not knowing what citizenship is.
English isnt his mother tongue. Nothing more nothing less. Dont know about his school education but I know that ppl arent good at english at his age when english isnt your mother tongue. Its like this in Germany, France, etc I dont assume Mexico to have a far superior school system/education than Germany. If so Id be ptretty proud about Mexico and sad about Germany/Europe.
I assume you wanted to think Im right winged. Especially because Im from Germany? Well Germans are a lot more cool than you think. We learned from the failure of our ancestors :> |
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wow lol
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| Angry.Zerg Mexico. July 18 2011 16:37. Posts 301 | Profile Blog # |
Wow... as a mexican gamer I'm very ashamed and disappointed. He's our only big player out there, and some times we can't be 100% proud of him.
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| RacerX United States. July 18 2011 16:37. Posts 155 | Profile # |
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| zerglingsfolife United States. July 18 2011 16:38. Posts 1694 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 16:26 TT1 wrote:
tl should setup a big brother service where they send an admin over to someones house to pat'em on the back after they make a good post
i could so see hb being like "Good Job man.. that was a well though out and executed response
I feel like this is the best idea and post that has come out of the thread. Well done. |
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| zocktol Germany. July 18 2011 16:38. Posts 1849 | Profile Blog # |
So let's see. Major entered a tournament under a smurf, he knew he is was not allowed to play in. Get's banned for it, get's banned from future events and people will talk to sixjax management(cause if the kids are not acting in a apropriate way, Artosis will handle it).
Not actually sure what this thread is meant to accomplish though. I mean, it was basically known that major, is a diva and does whatever he wants, so not that sure, why this is such a hot topic. |
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| Novalisk Israel. July 18 2011 16:38. Posts 1769 | Profile Blog # |
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| Ziken India. July 18 2011 16:39. Posts 984 | Profile # |
This makes me really sad, because I really like Major's gameplay itself, and I think he's a really smart player. However, even if he didn't really agree with their opinion, it was made absolutely clear to him that he couldn't participate, deciding to smurf after that is pretty sad. ._.
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| Medrea July 18 2011 16:40. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
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| DisaFear Australia. July 18 2011 16:42. Posts 4030 | Profile Blog # |
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| ROOTT1 Canada. July 18 2011 16:42. Posts 5630 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 16:38 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 16:26 TT1 wrote:
tl should setup a big brother service where they send an admin over to someones house to pat'em on the back after they make a good post
i could so see hb being like "Good Job man.. that was a well though out and executed response
I feel like this is the best idea and post that has come out of the thread. Well done.
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| Angry.Zerg Mexico. July 18 2011 16:44. Posts 301 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads
Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that?
I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means? I thought TL would be the place of mannered and nice ppl. But it seems taht most ppl are only able to yell at each other in an unfriendly tone.
Wait, what? Being mexican doesn't mean we are idiots. Major's english is good enough to understand all those lines. He was just being an ass trying to get into the tournament just because who is he... raging, bitching and being childish when he was denied.
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| sksyen United States. July 18 2011 16:44. Posts 359 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 16:35 HitMonkie wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 16:30 ReachTheSky wrote:
so i wonder if there are going to be any longterm repercussions of this. He tried to rob esports of monies ;/
Probably not. I doubt Sixjax would do anything either, He is probably their best player, so they wont do anything to him. The only repercussions to this is that he may not be welcome to any further SEA tournaments. Most will probably think, that it is not a big deal. Which it may not be. But I will say this, SEA is growing and if SEA does create bigger Tournaments for bigger prize money. Maybe he will regret what he did when he is not allowed to participate.
Far from the best player on Sixjax. Right move by the tourney admin in this case. Just wondering if a few bucks is really worth all this trouble for major... its not like the guy doesn't make $ from streaming / sponsorship. |
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| Tppz! Germany. July 18 2011 16:47. Posts 1311 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 16:44 azka wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads
Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that?
I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means? I thought TL would be the place of mannered and nice ppl. But it seems taht most ppl are only able to yell at each other in an unfriendly tone.
Wait, what? Being mexican doesn't mean we are idiots. Major's english is good enough to understand all those lines. He was just being an ass trying to get into the tournament just because who is he... raging, bitching and being childish when he was denied. Omg, I'm really mad about that comment...
If you are mad pls read this post that I posted later on:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10352491
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| iaguz Australia. July 18 2011 16:47. Posts 1251 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 16:34 ehalf wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads
One of the best post in this thread. Clearly there is some person who dont like major and try to encourage the hate grown in TL forum. Kind of childish by many admins/pros.
If you look at the link posted at the top of the OP it makes it clear that Major knew full well that he wasn't allowed to play in the tournament days before it happened. These chat screenshots were taken on the day when he was talking to Major. I can understand if he feels frustrated that the Australian Tgun is allowed to play in an Australian tournament but that's no excuse for smurfing.
Dox has been nothing but professional this entire time. He didn't start this thread, someone else did and he felt obliged to post in it several times to clarify things. Wouldn't you? The only move he himself has made against Major, other then removing him from the tourney he is ineligible for, was contacting Sixjax management about the issue. Again, perfectly understandable.
The only thing he has done that could be seen as wrong was a slight miswording in the OP. And any issues this created were fixed when he contacted the non-SEA players who tried to compete, who understood completely. Including Major, who decided to compete anyway.
I'm not trying to be aggressive to you here. I just don't think you fully understand the situation outlined in the OP. |
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| Holy_AT Austria. July 18 2011 16:47. Posts 678 | Profile # |
If this isnt some kind of troll, I am really baffled.
Sry if I have to say so but this "pro player" really seems a bit behind mentally. This player talks like an irresponsible idiot and his logic is that of someone in kindergarden. His actions are a blunt violation of this e-sports tournament.
In my opinion this player should be held accountable for his actions and receive a ban from every tournament for half a year, because otherwise esports stands for nothing and is just a joke that is beeing made fun of.Last edit: 2011-07-18 16:49:03 |
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| Daeno Canada. July 18 2011 16:50. Posts 70 | Profile # |
| Way to represent your team well and fuck over aspiring players from SEA at the same time Major. Class fucking act. |
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| SecondChance Australia. July 18 2011 16:51. Posts 603 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 11:02 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 10:58 Jono7272 wrote:
Meh, the rules weren't clear. The Thread said anyone eith a SEA account was elligible, but elsewhere said only Sea citizens. Not too major imo! Excuse the pun :D
he was specifically told by the tournament organizer that he was not allowed to enter
This.
There was a lack of specification of entry conditions for the Tourny. Dox has acknowledged this and apologised.
Regardless, if you contact the organiser of the tournament and the rules become properly explained to you; and you KNOW you are then unable to compete according to them; then you shouldn't. This is where it should of ended.
It was clearly wrong and dishonest for Major to then obtain a SEA account to deceive everyone and make his way into the tournament. He knocked out players that could of had a legitimate chance at winning. This is inexcusable. Major should apologise not only for removing players illegitimately from the tournament, but for also wasting the time of Tournament organisers who had to investigate and eventually disqualify major.
Sc2 Tournaments don't need this bullshit. Manner up, and stop fucking it up for everyone else.
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| DyniX Vietnam. July 18 2011 16:51. Posts 45 | Profile # |
| TBH, I respect sixjaxMajor as a gamer ONLY because he's pretty damn good at Terran. However personality and attitude wise, he is bad mannered and immature. Pro Gaming teams shouldn't just have gamers just based on their skill, personality is a major factor, teams should choose the most professional players gaming and attitude-wise. Major has been so much BM since he started. I watch his stream to learn terran, not because I like him. I was actually watching the stream when this exchange happened but I didn't notice it, but now when I think about it I remember. Last edit: 2011-07-18 16:53:41 |
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