| Mioraka Canada. July 22 2011 14:22. Posts 1352 | Profile Blog # |
On July 22 2011 14:16 damod wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 14:10 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:02 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:53 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:49 felizuno wrote:
Mr. Lee is obviously mismanaging his business and the exodus of players is proof. Really don't care what he says, if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.
Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense
The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to. Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time. God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this....
FFS puma said that he will tell TSL HIMSELF, if he didnt want to do it himslef obviously EG would have done it. let me quote how i feel about reaplying your post: "God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this...."
if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.So at the end EG didn't do anything wrong and Mr. Lee should just STFU? R u seriously trying to counter my counter argument to the post I quoted, by arguing against the post I quoted? Use ur logic much?
at the end EG didn't do anything wrong, and lee can say Whatever he wants. i never sayed he should STFU, you did -.-
No, the original idiotic post did, and maybe u should read it before u reply and support it. |
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| XiGua Sweden. July 22 2011 14:23. Posts 2909 | Profile Blog # |
Clide is the man... Now I understand Tastosis feelings for him.
This story is so sad. I am now rooting for TSL in the GSTL. Hopefully PuMa can do well too in EG so that he won't feel that he won't regret his decision.
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| Contagious United States. July 22 2011 14:24. Posts 1299 | Profile Blog # |
| Loved what he said about Clide and SangHo. Nice gesture that they put forward for their team. |
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| Daniel C Hong Kong. July 22 2011 14:25. Posts 1434 | Profile # |
| Go CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE, most awesome person in the universe. |
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| BluePanther United States. July 22 2011 14:26. Posts 2669 | Profile # |
has it ever occured to people that despite the better players being in korea, there might actually be more of a "scene" over here?
the only tournament run by korea is GSL, and it's not a hit as far as i understand. i'm curious as to what the numbers are, but it's possible that the West has a larger scene...Last edit: 2011-07-22 14:27:31 |
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| damod July 22 2011 14:26. Posts 1007 | Profile # |
On July 22 2011 14:22 Mioraka wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 14:16 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:10 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:02 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:53 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:49 felizuno wrote:
Mr. Lee is obviously mismanaging his business and the exodus of players is proof. Really don't care what he says, if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.
Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense
The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to. Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time. God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this....
FFS puma said that he will tell TSL HIMSELF, if he didnt want to do it himslef obviously EG would have done it. let me quote how i feel about reaplying your post: "God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this...."
if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.So at the end EG didn't do anything wrong and Mr. Lee should just STFU? R u seriously trying to counter my counter argument to the post I quoted, by arguing against the post I quoted? Use ur logic much?
at the end EG didn't do anything wrong, and lee can say Whatever he wants. i never sayed he should STFU, you did -.-
No, the original idiotic post did, and maybe u should read it before u reply and support it.
Maybe i should *reading original post* K i'm a retard -.- |
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| theDragoon Canada. July 22 2011 14:27. Posts 173 | Profile # |
| We need EG's side on this before you can post it. |
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| acrequiem United States. July 22 2011 14:27. Posts 15 | Profile # |
On July 22 2011 14:17 Mazeltov wrote:
So hard to decide which team I dislike more EG or FXO. All the blatant player poaching and lackluster results is making it hard to pick a most hated.
ALso Rysecake is right the reason the Koreans are jumping ship is because the money is in the foreign tournaments that they KNOW they can dominate. No foreigners (aside from the ones that practice in Korea) will stand a chance against the Koreans that are going to be taking over the foreign tournaments.
Choya (coach/manager of fou) came to FXOboss and proposed the deal to merge the team. FXO didn't steal people. I think if FXO wanted to steal people they would have just chosen all the top players from every team instead of just merging with the entire team... just for your information
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| yoshi_yoshi United States. July 22 2011 14:27. Posts 438 | Profile # |
Oh, it's Coach Lee from Hyunjoon (sp?) becomes a progamer! Don't know why I didn't make that connection before.
Also, LOL at how they're wondering why Clide/Sangho and Puma (somewhat) have a large foreigner fanbase... it's all Artosis! |
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| cronaldo5909 Korea (South). July 22 2011 14:29. Posts 15 | Profile # |
What Sangho and Clide did for the team would be a norm as a top player in a team would do when their team is going through a tough time in Korea. I feel great respect for them!
wish good luck for TSL in the future. |
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| Chimpalimp United States. July 22 2011 14:29. Posts 1018 | Profile # |
| People are taking this a bit too much to heart. Like it or not, pro sc2 is a business, and in business you have to go in the direction that you feel is best, which is what Puma did. However, I will say that it was kind of dumb of Coach Lee not to put them on contract. |
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| dtz July 22 2011 14:30. Posts 3903 | Profile # |
Artosis is right guys. Clide is the best player in the world. Manner wise and skill wise ( he has just been unlucky so far).
Actually it is funny how Clide has so many international fans just because of Artosis hype. Of course then he proceeded to justify it by intentionally not putting Huk and Jinro in the same group even if it means that he has to be in the same group as Nestea. Nestea over Huk guys. And Huk at that time was BAD for code S level. Not even close to his skill level now.
And then he proceeded to stay loyal and donated his salary back to his struggling team??? WHAT A BALLER.
Now that we know he is loyal. Please please MLG or DH or IEM please invite Clide ( and SangHo) to foreign tournaments. No risk of being poached so TSL should not worry. And hopefully he will know that the international scene appreciates a man with such characters.
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| kdmx United States. July 22 2011 14:32. Posts 23 | Profile # |
| Good for Puma. The career of a progamer is short and volatile. You have to do what you need to do to take care yourself and your family. Loyalty is admirable but if it doesn't pay bills, what good is it? |
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| Telcontar United Kingdom. July 22 2011 14:33. Posts 15851 | Profile # |
I really do hope we see more leagues come up besides the GSL before GOMTV's 2 years are up. I know they'll have to prematurely reliquish their broadcasting exclusivity but it just doesn't help the korean scene to have only 1 league running. The players need other events and more games will mean more chance to get noticed by new fans and sponors.
I kinda suspected the korean scene wasn't going as well as it was hoped and you can tell how much the international fanbase matters more to GOM now with their partnership with MLG and hosting the October Code S Finals at Blizzcon. I guess they need to compensate for the continued lukewarm reception in korea. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad they're expanding their horizons but now I'm fairly sure it's more out of necessity than anything else.
Anyways, best of luck to TSL and their players.Last edit: 2011-07-22 14:34:37 |
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| JinDesu United States. July 22 2011 14:34. Posts 3387 | Profile Blog # |
On July 22 2011 14:27 acrequiem wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 14:17 Mazeltov wrote:
So hard to decide which team I dislike more EG or FXO. All the blatant player poaching and lackluster results is making it hard to pick a most hated.
ALso Rysecake is right the reason the Koreans are jumping ship is because the money is in the foreign tournaments that they KNOW they can dominate. No foreigners (aside from the ones that practice in Korea) will stand a chance against the Koreans that are going to be taking over the foreign tournaments.
Choya (coach/manager of fou) came to FXOboss and proposed the deal to merge the team. FXO didn't steal people. I think if FXO wanted to steal people they would have just chosen all the top players from every team instead of just merging with the entire team... just for your information
His er, dislike of FXO stems from the "lackluster results". Not the merging of FXO and Fou. |
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 Looky United States. July 22 2011 14:34. Posts 1533 | Profile # |
there was a reason fruitdealer and tester left. why is everyone blaming eg on this one? maybe puma didnt want to be part of the team anymore ethier and eg saw an opportunity and ask him to join.
no contract seriously? thats probably the dumbest thing i heard from a professional team.Last edit: 2011-07-22 14:35:34 |
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| haka United States. July 22 2011 14:37. Posts 1379 | Profile # |
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| IslandLife July 22 2011 14:38. Posts 21 | Profile # |
Asian and Asian-American culture is very different than Western culture about 'honor and respect' in things like this.
I can give you plenty of real-life examples of Koreans renegging on contracts, going back on their word, siphoning money out of workers' pensions, tax evasion, etc. Comments like the above are ignorant. Public disgrace is taken rather seriously, but that doesn't matter if you don't get caught.
Puma had no contract so he was free to make his own decision. Did they even think to offer him one the minute he got off a plane after winning NASL?? |
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| youngminii Australia. July 22 2011 14:38. Posts 7347 | Profile Blog # |
| Clide and SangHo are true gentlemen. Wish I could say the same about Puma but going to EG was his choice I suppose. |
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 Milkis July 22 2011 14:40. Posts 4777 | Profile Blog # |
On July 22 2011 14:38 IslandLife wrote:
Show nested quote + Asian and Asian-American culture is very different than Western culture about 'honor and respect' in things like this.
I can give you plenty of real-life examples of Koreans renegging on contracts, going back on their word, siphoning money out of workers' pensions, tax evasion, etc. Comments like the above are ignorant. Public disgrace is taken rather seriously, but that doesn't matter if you don't get caught. Puma had no contract so he was free to make his own decision. Did they even think to offer him one the minute he got off a plane after winning NASL??
E-Sports Business in korea is *quite* different from Actual business in Korea. ESports is branded in Korea as the passion and innocence of youth.
Real businesses in Korea work differently. |
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