| modesttoss United States. April 21 2012 22:55. Posts 221 | Profile # |
Sase isn't deserving of all these new "haters". In Starcraft, you learn how to become a better player. Sase just gave him a reality check that he has a long ways to go. Nothing wrong with it.  Last edit: 2012-04-21 22:56:11 |
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| Waterflow Sweden. April 21 2012 23:00. Posts 1316 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 22:38 aRRoSC2 wrote:
guess we need to flame the shit out of any terran manner muling or people dancing their units (whether it's /dance or moving side to side)
Yeah well sadly the community is partly infested with hypocritical moral hags.
The same person can be ok with his/her favourite player being bm but on the other hand if another player does the slightest thing that person doesn't like then he's the worst person ever. |
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| Waterflow Sweden. April 21 2012 23:01. Posts 1316 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 22:55 modesttoss wrote:Sase isn't deserving of all these new "haters". In Starcraft, you learn how to become a better player. Sase just gave him a reality check that he has a long ways to go. Nothing wrong with it.
Exactly. That was what i said earlier also. Glad that there is sane people like you here. |
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 Ventor United States. April 21 2012 23:03. Posts 336 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby. |
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| Tru_m4n Taiwan. April 21 2012 23:03. Posts 105 | Profile # |
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| Hypemeup Sweden. April 21 2012 23:05. Posts 2637 | Profile # |
| Its funny to read Sases fanclub to find angry haters berating swedish SC2 players and fans. |
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| Fnatic.SaSe Sweden. April 21 2012 23:08. Posts 29 | Profile # |
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v |
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| SomeONEx Sweden. April 21 2012 23:08. Posts 630 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
Sorry for not hating my own country |
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| DBHErazor Sweden. April 21 2012 23:12. Posts 176 | Profile # |
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| Willba United Kingdom. April 21 2012 23:13. Posts 191 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
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| Ventor United States. April 21 2012 23:14. Posts 336 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:08 SomeONEx wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
Sorry for not hating my own country
I'm not asking you to hate it. It's just most swedish fans are too blind by patriotism to even criticize their own players when they do dubious things. |
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| Ventor United States. April 21 2012 23:15. Posts 336 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:13 Willba wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
OH THE IRONY
Please explain this 'irony'. |
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| flagg Sweden. April 21 2012 23:15. Posts 119 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v
Don't feed the trolls Sase!
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| Waterflow Sweden. April 21 2012 23:16. Posts 1316 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
But do you realize that you are judging every single swedish SC2 fan now? Even the ones you haven't even met.
You are basing your opinion on a very limited experience.
Do you wan't me to start talking about american sc2 fans? I won't do that since im not as ignorant and racist as you. |
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| Hypemeup Sweden. April 21 2012 23:18. Posts 2637 | Profile # |
Well, I guess thats the first tool who managed to get himself nuked in this fanclub because he could not understand what the word "fanclub" meant.
I actually wonder what Fanclub has the most of those. Probably IdrAs or one of the girl players. O.o |
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| Acritter April 21 2012 23:22. Posts 1562 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v
That's a well-reasoned response. I only have one question: at what point would "playing around" with a player go out of the realm of fun and enter the realm of taunting and BM? There's a midrange somewhere that shows respect while allowing for fun, and I'm wondering what defines that midrange. |
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| EmperorKira United Kingdom. April 21 2012 23:23. Posts 107 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v
I don't mind you trolling a little, e.g. dropping the manner nexus, getting a mothership, going mass DTs, carriers wtv.. but then throwing out units on move command to just let them die or not finishing him off when u had multiple opportunities by killing his army and going home is just a little annoying because it goes from u having fun and teasing, to just being a jerk. I know you didn't mean it that way, and I knew you didn't mean it that way, and he knew, but it still came off that way a little. |
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| ECHOZs United States. April 21 2012 23:24. Posts 498 | Profile Blog # |
| I can't believe how people are blowing this out of proportion. Sase was going to win no matter how he played and saying that swedish fans as just blinded by their nationality is making a vast assumption. I'm american and I don't see anything wrong with what Sase did he can choose to play the game however he likes, who are we to tell a player how he should play its his choice and we should have no say in the matter. Good luck in the rest of the tourney SaSe! |
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| Willba United Kingdom. April 21 2012 23:29. Posts 191 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:15 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:13 Willba wrote:
On April 21 2012 23:03 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:53 Waterflow wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:42 Ventor wrote:
On April 21 2012 20:39 Waterflow wrote:
If SaSe played serious that kid would be dead in a second.
I think SaSe is playing like this both to have some fun with him but also to give him longer games to play. He's actually giving him a lesson.
Yes, let's make more excuses for your fellow swedish player. I can't believe how patriotic swedish people are about their players... And I thought the US was bad about that. You guys would rather chop off your own arms than call out a swedish player on their stupid shinanigans.
Yes let's be more ignorant mr american. Ofcourse the whole swedish people are patriotic about their players... ofcourse... You could of written: "I can't believe how patriotic SOME of the swedish people are about their players..." But you had to judge the whole swedish people in one sentence. Just because im like that doesn't mean that the whole swedish population is like that.
Only an idiot would assume I mean every swedish person. There is something about sc2 swedish fans which is different from normal swedish people. The swedish people i have met in real life have been so pleasant to be around but the sc2 swedish fans just seem so arrogant and snobby.
OH THE IRONY
Please explain this 'irony'.
You're calling a group of people arrogant and snobby when you're the one judging a large group of people with very little reasoning, and in a very 'snobbish' manner too.
(Apologies for clogging this fanclub with an argument btw)
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| jinxgeek Norway. April 21 2012 23:35. Posts 1 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v
I don't think that you did anything wrong. I think it was funny that people tweeted you. Cause that was the phun of that situation. If you feel that those who tweeted at you, offended you. That is regrettable. I saw the after game interview, and Njazmasj looked just scared of the cameras, not sad because you crushed him.
I think this is way out of proportions. Yes, you crushed him in a cruel and phun way.
But he knew that he has a long way to go before he can take his vengeance on you ^^
I say, GG to both players! Looking forward to you SaSe playing the rest of EizoOpen and Njazmajs in the future.
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