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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it. | BLinD-RawR India. July 29 2011 02:27. Posts 24597 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 02:05 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 21:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 28 2011 20:30 Kalent wrote:
A post in the Fomos community says that there's a high possibility that Proleagues will be broadcasted on another station that runs sports or a channel called xtm (? Dunno what channel that is).
They say MSL may be run on another MBC channel (there's tons of them) such as MBCLife. It's being "discussed" apparently.
This source isn't really credible though. It's just a poster in the community.
thats good to hear,at least it won't be the last MSL.
Even if PL and MSL are run on another channel, how about the other competitive games like Special Forces and Tekken? And then where would all the matches be played? Are they going to close the Loox Center as well? STX Cup and Elite Schools League are also run exclusively by MBC. That's not even mentioning all the other game related content on MBCGame channel. What a terrible blow to esports.
That's true,now I feel like my response to that post was rather selfish. |
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| Ryo July 29 2011 02:34. Posts 8408 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 02:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 02:05 Ryo wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 28 2011 20:30 Kalent wrote:
A post in the Fomos community says that there's a high possibility that Proleagues will be broadcasted on another station that runs sports or a channel called xtm (? Dunno what channel that is).
They say MSL may be run on another MBC channel (there's tons of them) such as MBCLife. It's being "discussed" apparently.
This source isn't really credible though. It's just a poster in the community.
thats good to hear,at least it won't be the last MSL.
Even if PL and MSL are run on another channel, how about the other competitive games like Special Forces and Tekken? And then where would all the matches be played? Are they going to close the Loox Center as well? STX Cup and Elite Schools League are also run exclusively by MBC. That's not even mentioning all the other game related content on MBCGame channel. What a terrible blow to esports.
That's true,now I feel like my response to that post was rather selfish.
No no, I didn't mean it that way. I was just trying to emphasize what a bad decision this is by MBC Plus Media. |
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| 1a2a3aPro Canada. July 29 2011 02:47. Posts 181 | Profile # |
This is a very sad day for me.  . I love BW and MBCGame shutting down cannot be good news. |
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| SC2Joker United States. July 29 2011 02:49. Posts 62 | Profile # |
| Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D |
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| Letmelose Korea (South). July 29 2011 03:27. Posts 642 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition.
Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for?
I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times. |
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| Duka08 July 29 2011 03:34. Posts 1189 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
I like you.
Awaiting more news... The discussion of moving channels for BW at least is hopeful, but it's still a huge decision for everything else involved with MBCGame... |
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| Achromic July 29 2011 03:44. Posts 773 | Profile Blog # |
| Rofl, yeah everyone is pissed about this news. If you are new to the BW scene or have "SC2" in your name, you better word your post carefully or you'll get flamed. |
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| Bleak Turkey. July 29 2011 03:50. Posts 2636 | Profile Blog # |
This Sc2 vs BW thing is unnecessary.
I have known about BW scene through TL after I got interested in SC2. I watch both games, and like both. I watched some BW matches live the other day and asked some questions on thread and no one bashed me for watching SC2 or something. Starcraft is Starcraft, BW or WoL. Both are great games, both have their good and bad parts. This channel closing is a hit to the scene, and is sad. I hope it doesn't happen. I still need time to get into BW scene and watch more games.
Starcraft (BW or SC2) fighting! |
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| Achromic July 29 2011 03:56. Posts 773 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 03:50 Bleak wrote:
This Sc2 vs BW thing is unnecessary.
It's not SC2 vs BW.
We are arguing that the SC2 players don't understand the gravity of this situation.
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| jinorazi Korea (South). July 29 2011 04:04. Posts 3971 | Profile # |
please (sc2) guys, its not only MSL and BW related, its all of MBCGame and that includes the god damn Tekken Crash. i'm fcking crushed by this
last mlg didn't have tekken, and now this news...i'm such a sad panda. |
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| maybenexttime Poland. July 29 2011 04:19. Posts 3082 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand? |
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| Tleaf Canada. July 29 2011 04:33. Posts 178 | Profile Blog # |
Blizzard gave rights to GOM for BW right? So if GOM wants to they could have another broadcaster take over something similar to MSL right? and PL and WL are also cast on seperate channels? Sorry I don't know I only ever watched vids and streams on TL
EDIT: Isn't this also bad for esports in general if one of the most success tournaments shuts down?
I'm also kinda confused video games now gross more in income than television + music + movies combined (in Canada and US anyhow) so why are they not focusing on that?Last edit: 2011-07-29 04:35:31 |
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| ilion United States. July 29 2011 04:38. Posts 63 | Profile Blog # |
Muta micro, vulture micro, reaver dropship micro, rines vs lurker micro, hydras vs storms, all while macroing.
I hope I will not have to miss watching pros do these things.
Im gonna go play some bw.
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| wassbix Canada. July 29 2011 04:40. Posts 496 | Profile # |
On July 29 2011 04:33 Tleaf wrote:
Blizzard gave rights to GOM for BW right? So if GOM wants to they could have another broadcaster take over something similar to MSL right? and PL and WL are also cast on seperate channels? Sorry I don't know I only ever watched vids and streams on TL
EDIT: Isn't this also bad for esports in general if one of the most success tournaments shuts down?
I'm also kinda confused video games now gross more in income than television + music + movies combined (in Canada and US anyhow) so why are they not focusing on that?
Has nothing to do with rights (that was last year when blizzard sued Kespa). MBC's new management don't see MBCgame as profitable, or that Kpop is more profitable. Also, GOM isnt a cable channel but just an internet TV streamer.
Going from cable TV to Gom would be like moving from a penthouse to the poorhouses. |
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| Vul United States. July 29 2011 04:41. Posts 681 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand?
Its not our responsibility, as SC2 players, to tiptoe around your extreme sensitivities.
That post you responded to was good natured and positive but you responded to it like that dude just insulted your mother. Here's a dose of reality: people that didn't play BW probably don't care that much about this situation. No one owes it to you to care as much as you do and talk about it like its a big tragedy. In the grand scheme its just a damn game, its not like people cheering in the streets during 9/11. People can see the positives in this, if they want to.
ed: double word
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| Nemesis Canada. July 29 2011 04:51. Posts 2323 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
Show nested quote +Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand?
Its not our responsibility, as SC2 players, to tiptoe around your extreme sensitivities. That post you responded to was good natured and positive but you responded to it like that dude just insulted your mother. Here's a dose of reality: people that didn't play BW probably don't care that much about this situation. No one owes it to you to care as much as you do and talk about it like its a big tragedy. In the grand scheme its just a damn game, its not like people cheering in the streets during 9/11. People can see the positives in this, if they want to. ed: double word
If you don't care, then don't post in the damn BROOD WAR section. Go back to your hole. |
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| Weedk United States. July 29 2011 04:56. Posts 506 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
Show nested quote +Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand?
Its not our responsibility, as SC2 players, to tiptoe around your extreme sensitivities. That post you responded to was good natured and positive but you responded to it like that dude just insulted your mother. Here's a dose of reality: people that didn't play BW probably don't care that much about this situation. No one owes it to you to care as much as you do and talk about it like its a big tragedy. In the grand scheme its just a damn game, its not like people cheering in the streets during 9/11. People can see the positives in this, if they want to. ed: double word
You mean other than the fact that the mod note up there says to be sensitive about it? It might not be your responsibility, but it is, you know, considerate to at least take our "extreme sensitivities" into account. Since when was being a considerate human being bad?
Edit: Especially in a thread like this. You were forewarned not to bring SC2 into this and provoke people by that little mod note up there.Last edit: 2011-07-29 04:57:29 |
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doubleupgradeobbies!  Australia. July 29 2011 04:57. Posts 960 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
Here's a dose of reality: people that didn't play BW probably don't care that much about this situation.
Then it begs the question why they bother to come to this thread and post in it?
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
No one owes it to you to care as much as you do and talk about it like its a big tragedy.
Indeed, but it's also not the place to be trying to convert people to SC2 maybe? I mean common sense people, there is a mod note at the top specifically telling people to be sensitive. |
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| phosphorylation July 29 2011 04:59. Posts 2650 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
Show nested quote +Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand?
Its not our responsibility, as SC2 players, to tiptoe around your extreme sensitivities.
It is actually, idiot, at least in the BW forums.
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| Letmelose Korea (South). July 29 2011 05:14. Posts 642 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2011 04:41 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 03:27 Letmelose wrote:
On July 29 2011 02:49 SC2Joker wrote:
Now is the time for eSports to be strong. BW and SC2 fans must unite to save eSports. Come, join the dark side. We have cookies :D
I was going to write an angry post filling up the entire scene telling you to go fuck yourself. Then I realized that this scene doesn't mean all that much to you, and this was your way of easing some people into what you see as a natural transition. Well, have you ever considered that it may be unwise to mention such things to those who don't want to "move on"? What about the high level commentary of those whose ten year experience is about to go to dust? It's not some show that's going off the air, it's an entire broadcasting station that's about to be shut down. Do you even have any idea of the magnitude involved with this entire fucked up situation before throwing around cute words like eSports? You think the moment the scene takes a huge hit like this I'm suddenly going to fall in love with the idea of watching some amateur that couldn' cut it in the real deal streaming some ladder games in his appartment playing a game that I couldn't care less for? I'm sorry, I think showing some fucking respect and restraint will be much appreciated by the likes of me who is fucking pissed off and worried as hell, as opposed to this happy-as-can-be attitude you're showing right now in the face of grave times.
Show nested quote +Understand this: if any of us care about SC2, they already follow it. Those who don't, won't suddenly start to like SC2. I do not give a shit about "esports", I care about BW. How hard is that to understand?
Its not our responsibility, as SC2 players, to tiptoe around your extreme sensitivities. That post you responded to was good natured and positive but you responded to it like that dude just insulted your mother. Here's a dose of reality: people that didn't play BW probably don't care that much about this situation. No one owes it to you to care as much as you do and talk about it like its a big tragedy. In the grand scheme its just a damn game, its not like people cheering in the streets during 9/11. People can see the positives in this, if they want to. ed: double word
You don't owe me a goddamn thing, but if you're going out of your way to cheer in my face when I've made it clear that I'm upset over this situation, then I'll promptly respond by telling you to go fuck yourself. No one is forcing you to give a rat's ass, but do you take joy in being a dick, or are you just too stupid to understand that when you post here, expressing your giddiness over this news will most likely be replied with hostility? |
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