TL Mafia XLIV
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Are PMs allowed? (time for me to reread the OP) | ||
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I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol. I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post. | ||
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On August 19 2011 08:58 Palmar wrote: Hands off my kurumi bitches. Hii palmar I'm disappointed I wasn't able to play more in the Swedish Mafia with you, I read the thread after I died and it seemed to play out interestingly. Also how is he YOUR kurumi? Tryna make us jealous | ||
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Why should we believe that those guidelines are being posted for the benefit of the new players? The new players can just read all of that stuff in the mafia resources stickies. | ||
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On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote: Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie ## vote DropBear LOL Palmar strikes again Luckily we have another 36ish hours to keep hunting these scum. | ||
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On August 20 2011 06:52 BrownBear wrote: I asked for something of substance and this is what I got? Oh, you. Ok, something you've pulled out of my reasoning that really just wasn't there. You're saying I want to lynch someone inactive. Not necessarily true. Implied, maybe, but NOT what I said. Again, you really need to stop putting words in people's mouths. What I said there, and what anyone who took 5 seconds to think rationally got out of that sentence before you started spewing shit all over it, is that regardless of what I think about DropBear's alignment (and for the record, I think he's more green than not. Scummy, possibly, but not confirmed scum), I want to see people post more. We're on only 17 pages halfway through the first day, which is kind of sad. I want more content. DropBear's providing it. I'm for lynching any of the semi-actives - that is, the people who are just contributing one liners and sheeping along to do the bare minimum to fly under the radar. Inactives = people who haven't noticed the game's started yet, people in different time zones who are sleeping, or people who don't care about the game. No reason wasting a vote on them - modkills will get them soon enough. The real area where mafia are probably lurking are the semi-actives - the guys who have posted a few times to be able to say "hey, I was here", but haven't contributed anything of substance or worth to the discussion. That doesn't include DropBear right now. At the very least, he's provoking discussion both about his silly fake-mayor plan, and about whether or not he's red. He's defending himself and providing some alternate ideas. (Although, DropBear, "I will do so if it becomes necessary"? Really? That's not doing you any favors, bro). Right now, my list of semi-actives include: wherebugsgo, hiro protagonist, Foolishness, and JeeJee (when you read his posts, they don't contribute nearly as much as they do ask questions that go unanswered). I'm open to adding more to that list tho. So let's start talking about those guys! JeeJee is the most suspicious to me right now: He's posted the most, but I see not all that much in his posts... it looks to me as though he's trying to post while not adding anything of value to town discussion. Just a gut feeling, but I still feel a lot better about lynching him than I do DropBear. Anyway, long story short: You read things out of my post that didn't exist, those things are the entire basis of your case against me, your case against me sucks, gg, try harder. ##Vote: JeeJee LOL. Only problem with your "let's lynch semi-actives" logic is that semi-active players could potentially be important townies, too. It's the first day, it's to be expected. If you're loud and not mafia, you can easily become a target. As for dropbear's proposal...it smells like something either scum would cook up, and/or something pertaining to someone who is really desperate to cover his/her ass. I don't wanna vote DB either, simply because we don't have enough information. However, I do think that Sevyrn deserves some attention for his first post. | ||
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## vote Sevyrn defend yourself, scum. | ||
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On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote: hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story... I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation: He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement) Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately... However that doesn't mean he's town. dafuq? are you defending him cause you're scum too? | ||
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On August 20 2011 10:15 Varpulis wrote: k guys i see a problem here: Everybody defending anybody is instantly scum, because the guy you're accusing is obviously scum, and anybody who doesn't agree with you is scum. This is a bad assumption. Townies can be wrong, townies can disagree. The key is to see how the guy is defending him. Is he being wishy washy? is his post overly safe? Are there obvious logical fallacies? with that said, supersoft's summary post accomplishes nothing and is pretty damn wishy washy. "I see innocence... however that doesn't mean he's town" does not compute. filter his posts and you'll see what I mean. He is being wishy washy AND overly safe while not necessarily actually making any sense. However, Sevryn's the concern right now (not palmar). His first post itself was one of the most suspicious things we've seen yet in this thread. I'd also suggest you guys head over to the voting thread right now and check out people's votes, as that's pretty interesting too. Sevryn votes DB and unvotes as soon as people start sniffing scum, while supersoft initially "pressurevoted" DB while defending himself from bandwagon accusations: On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote: i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people. Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad. ##Vote DropBear and before anyone jumps on me like: "wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum. And of course changed his vote to xtfftc almost immediately after people switched off DB. Finally, organization is good. Right now we have a good lead on Sevryn, why don't we start with that? | ||
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On August 20 2011 11:37 Foolishness wrote: He voted without bringing anything new to the table. That's his only post he's made this game that's been longer than 2 lines. His post says "lol he's scum vote", that wall of text you see there is gibberish. And the other games I've played with Mig he's been town, and I definitely don't ever remember him ever making a post with this kind of attitude. Foolish can you tell us precisely why you don't suspect Sevryn? You said that you need to hear more from him, when his first post itself was easily more scummy than Mig's, let alone those that followed. So why does one post of Mig's stick out to you, but one post of Sevryn's isn't enough? | ||
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So, I've read the arguments about xtfftc and brownbear (thanks palmar) but I'm sticking to my vote of Sev. Why? He hasn't posted a single thing in the last 20 hours. He defended himself (fairly shittily, IMO) with a couple desperation posts of "well I was just pressure voting, I didn't actually think he was scum" and then disappeared. Obviously that's not good town logic; we vote to lynch mafia, not vote to get information or to pressure people when we apparently already know they're not mafia. Why doesn't Sev have anything to add to the discussion? Why isn't he actively making a case for why he shouldn't be lynched and who we actually should lynch? He hasn't made a new vote, he hasn't participated in discussion, and he hasn't adequately defended himself. I still think he is mafia. | ||
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I suppose he could vote without saying anything, but that spells death sentence to me. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote: By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy). So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further. wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already? I didn't think you seemed that scummy, but with this new post and a couple of others of yours on this page...I'm having second thoughts about you. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:39 QuickSilver7 wrote: I like the case against BB, it basically contains all my reasons for FOSing him. Also this sevryn lynch is retarded, I'd love if people would read some rea analysis done on actually scummy people. Right now it seems like Sevryn is being lynched for two stupid posts he made in the beginning of the game. These two posts do not make him scum and when I filtered his posts I found that I liked much of the rest of his history. Also I feel like a lot of people are voting sevryn just to kill someone. I'll say it now, a no lynch is better than lynching a townie. If you're not actually sure sevryn is scum then don't vote him (which, from reading the reasons that have been given for voting him, I don't think everyone who's on the wagon is convinced). People should seriously read over the cases against xtfftc and BB again. Both of those are way scummier than sevryn is. (sorry this post isn't up to my usual standards hiro, I just wanna put the breaks on this runaway bus before I leave today ) I initially voted Sevryn because his first posts and his defense came off as scummy. He voted for DB without a moment's hesitation and was apparently willing to change his vote on a whim if "evidence" came up. Did that actually happen? Well, it's been exactly 24 hours since Sevryn last posted. During that time, a lot of additional pressure has been put on him. That doesn't seem scummy to you, that he's gone off to lurk for the most active part of the day? I expect him to come back, make excuses for why he was gone, and then desperately try to cover his ass while voting for xtffc or BB. Probably whoever has more votes at the time he reenters. Of course, now that I've made this post maybe it'll deter him from doing that when he actually does show his scum face. | ||
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As a townie you can always add to the discussion. What matters here is not necessarily just his posts, but also his voting pattern (or lack thereof) and his activity. Clearly he hasn't been active for at least the past 24 hours (last post at 3:41 KST yesterday) and he hasn't voted anyone either. This makes sense in light of a mafia agenda, not a town one. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:07 BrownBear wrote: This is a complete turnaround from your earlier opinion on Sevryn: after all, you're the one who started the bandwagon against him. Care to explain? I'm getting very sick of all your one-liner aggressive posts - you aren't contributing nearly as much as you think you are. WHOA WTF Can't let you get away with that! False accusations! Palmar was still tunneling hardcore when Sev started taking shit in the face for his posts. Go back and reread! Palmar has only passively accepted lynching Sev, he never started the bandwagon against him. In fact, no one person started any bandwagon against Sevryn. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote: I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills. Then who do you propose we vote for? | ||
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