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 canikizu   August 17 2011 05:58. Posts 2074
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On August 17 2011 05:46 iLikeRain wrote:
I hope the teacher/student system Valve talked about for some time will be implemented at beta launch. Would really like to teach others to play

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 TheRealPaciFist   United States. August 17 2011 06:02. Posts 910
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I hope there will be vods or streaming replays because if I'm reading the CET to EST conversion right, I'm going to be asleep the entire time, on Wednesday. It's literally falling exactly on my sleep schedule

EDIT: cool Icefrog said the games will be uploaded to Youtube/Youku (good stuff) and put on the schedule page
Last edit: 2011-08-17 06:08:17
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 eqez   Sweden. August 17 2011 06:21. Posts 519
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On August 17 2011 05:27 Mithriel wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:14 Trowa127 wrote:
Honest question guys, if I get DOTA now to prepare for when DOTA2 comes out (I've never played before in my life) will I just get flamed?



I actually have the same question, however at this point only hardcore dota players still play the original dota maybe. With dota2 release, there might be a whole wave of newcomers who have to learn the game ( like you and me) and we wont stand out as much

plus: i signed up for the beta, if i get in than hopefully i'll be familiar with the basics when it comes out for real.


U can play the AI map to learn the basics if u dont want to get completly flamed.
 
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 cilinder007   Slovenia. August 17 2011 06:48. Posts 3537
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Cant wait for the game to come out and to try and learn it

So are SC skills any help when learning dota from scratch ?
 
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 SkyZz   United States. August 17 2011 06:53. Posts 264
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On August 17 2011 06:48 cilinder007 wrote:
Cant wait for the game to come out and to try and learn it

So are SC skills any help when learning dota from scratch ?


Neh none whatsoever, the two games requires different skillsets. Also Dota is only hard to learn if you play by yourself so it's really best just to get someone who knows the game before and play with them. Its much easier that way.
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 redFF   United States. August 17 2011 07:57. Posts 3889
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lol this one is better
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 Suffo   United States. August 17 2011 08:01. Posts 740
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On August 17 2011 06:48 cilinder007 wrote:
Cant wait for the game to come out and to try and learn it

So are SC skills any help when learning dota from scratch ?


Maybe awareness minimap wise from ganks and shit, positioning and stuff is important but you won't really know until you learn all the heroes/items.
 
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 s2pid_loser   United States. August 17 2011 08:01. Posts 643
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On August 17 2011 06:53 SkyZz wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 06:48 cilinder007 wrote:
Cant wait for the game to come out and to try and learn it

So are SC skills any help when learning dota from scratch ?



Neh none whatsoever, the two games requires different skillsets. Also Dota is only hard to learn if you play by yourself so it's really best just to get someone who knows the game before and play with them. Its much easier that way.



not exactly

if you play heroes like chen or meepo that are difficult to master if you dont use more that one control set, then yes, rts skills from games like sc2 or wc3 do come in handy
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 XnG_777   August 17 2011 08:04. Posts 467
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When is the right time to make hero threads? after the beta, or now?
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 Lobotomist   United States. August 17 2011 08:22. Posts 1258
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I'm really interested in the pricing. I would much, much prefer that it is a straight $50 - $60, not a micro-transaction powered game. One thing I really hate about LoL is that they need to have an aggressive champion release schedule, to support the game. It makes it very difficult for the game to develop a strong meta game, and requires you to stay up-to-date every two weeks. Also, there are inherent balance problems with new heroes coming out all the time.
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 SpaceToaster   United States. August 17 2011 09:04. Posts 215
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On August 17 2011 08:04 XnG_777 wrote:
When is the right time to make hero threads? after the beta, or now?


After beta starts. While the game is meant to be true to DotA I'd imagine there will at least be balance changes. Plus after beta starts we can flesh out hero threads with pictures and whatnot, and make them up to TL op standards.
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 Celexi   Portugal. August 17 2011 09:16. Posts 4
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I can't wait to be able to play dota 2 with my friends and people i know, although i usually enjoy f2p models, the way HON did it made it a rather hard challenge to get anyone interested into the game because of the final pricing of the game going to 200$ or 300$, some insane thing.
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 0mgVitaminE   United States. August 17 2011 09:30. Posts 1244
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I seriously can't wait to play. Been playing DotA for the past 3 or 4 years, at times in very large quantities, but the magic just hasn't been back for a little while. My friends slowly stopped playing it, and dealing with garena or other ways to get games can be a real pain. So hyped, and now that TL has a subforum it will be better than ever!

Looking forward to playing with guys from TL, and I'm sure there will be no shortage of great hero/playstyle guides posted (hopefully some written by myself )
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 Omegastorm   August 17 2011 09:36. Posts 75
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On August 17 2011 06:48 cilinder007 wrote:
Cant wait for the game to come out and to try and learn it

So are SC skills any help when learning dota from scratch ?


Yes,
Army position/Hero positioning
Map awareness
Less silly mistakes.
Can play hero like enigma,chen,enchantress better than the majority of pub players and become good easily with good practice.

What you will lack:
Last hits
Mana Management
Item builds
Game Knowledge
Not knowing the spells of every hero.

But these will all be fixed with experience so its okay.
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 Angra   United States. August 17 2011 09:46. Posts 2094
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^ For the guy asking if SC skills are useful with DotA, one big thing people are overlooking I think is that the control scheme is actually very similar. Things like A-move, right click to move, hold position, stop, camera controls, etc. are all the same as SC, so you'll feel pretty comfortable controlling your hero right from the start. I've had friends who never played Starcraft/Warcraft before try out Dota and HoN, and they had a lot of trouble just learning those basic things even. The main things you'll have to learn from scratch are items, heroes, managing creeps/creep waves in various ways, and just getting a general game sense from playing it.
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 GhostKorean   United States. August 17 2011 09:49. Posts 2266
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HuK definitely had like 10000x better map awareness than anyone else at his level when I played HoN with him. He wasn't any better at anything else though
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 Logarythm   United States. August 17 2011 10:05. Posts 256
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Noob here,

Do Scourge and Sentinel basically have the same heroes, but with different names?
Making bad decisions.
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 GhostKorean   United States. August 17 2011 10:06. Posts 2266
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You can pick from either side
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 Logarythm   United States. August 17 2011 10:10. Posts 256
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Oh, so it's not a Sentinel team versus a Scourge team? Do the affiliations matter for gameplay, then?
Making bad decisions.
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 XnG_777   August 17 2011 10:10. Posts 467
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On August 17 2011 10:05 Logarythm wrote:
Noob here,

Do Scourge and Sentinel basically have the same heroes, but with different names?


no
go to playdota/heroes
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