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 Alur   Denmark. June 24 2012 21:06. Posts 1547
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On June 24 2012 19:06 Yurie wrote:

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It is also cheaper.

You can also pass things such as a darkseer wall without triggering it. It's also slightly more convenient to reach a desired destination, since you don't have to make sure you're facing the right way.
AKA No can Dazzle
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 Chewbacca.   United States. June 25 2012 00:15. Posts 1451
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What is the difference between a Beta invite/key?

I assume an invite is a "Steam Item", where you use it and you gain access to the game and the Beta Key is a code where I have to enter it in somewhere and will gain access to the game.

If I am correct why do I see people putting more value on the beta key rather than invite? A beta key could already be used while a beta invite surely wouldn't be otherwise it wouldn't still be an item on steam?
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 Koshi   Belgium. June 25 2012 03:27. Posts 6776
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Is there a site I can really read about the interface and Matchmaking? I just bought a key, and I am wondering about some stuff.
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 Dead9   United States. June 25 2012 03:40. Posts 2327
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not as far as i know, but you can ask here and someone should be able to answer you
szpt
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 Koshi   Belgium. June 25 2012 04:06. Posts 6776
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It is nothing specific, just general stuff. Dota2.com is not really the place to learn about the matchmaking, levling up, etc etc.
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 Yurie   June 25 2012 04:53. Posts 2101
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On June 25 2012 04:06 Koshi wrote:
It is nothing specific, just general stuff. Dota2.com is not really the place to learn about the matchmaking, levling up, etc etc.


There is no MM information, it works decently. Levels are worthless, no benefit to getting them unless you intend to farm for cosmetic items.
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 Alur   Denmark. June 25 2012 04:57. Posts 1547
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Husky did a video on the interface, although it is slightly outdated, most of the things are still relevant:

Battle point levels are gained through acquiring (you guessed it) battle points. Battle points are awarded to played when a game is over, the longer the game was, the more battle points you gain (I'm not 100% on this part). Each game seems to average at around 50 points. 1k points are required to level up, and every time you level up you are awarded a cosmetical item.

Matchmaking uses a hidden rating system, so players have very limited insight as to how they are ranked. However, there seem to be two methods to vaguely estimate you skill. The first one is simply doing a search of your own name in the recent games tab, and while doing this filter by either low, medium or high skill, and then looking under which skill level your most recent games are. Note that this is still a quite crude method, for example, you might be still ranked as "high" if you're "only" just above 67% of the playerbase.

The other method is based on how the watch live games list is displayed. Since the highest ranked games are the top of page 1, and then descend in rating as you go down and onto later pages, you have somewhat of an idea of how you stack up, based on which page you're on. This extremely unpractical if you're not on the first 5 pages.

Lastly you should try to avoid leaving games before they are over, or before you see "this game is now safe to leave" in red text inside the game (happens when a player has abandoned the game), in case you disconnect you have 5 minutes (more if people pause) to reconnect before it counts as an abandon. If you abandon too many games, you will be placed into the low priority pool temporarily, where finding a game can take significantly longer, in addition to the games being worse.

I hope this answers some of your questions, if not feel free to ask/pm.
Last edit: 2012-06-25 05:10:15
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 Koshi   Belgium. June 25 2012 06:40. Posts 6776
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Thanks for the explanation. But I don't really have specific questions. Jut searching some information. My first 3 games were really easy, against "bad" players, I went 22-0 with nevermore in my 4tht game and now I see that I am getting better opponents. However, I seem to level at the same rate.
But it is ok, I am just going to grind some games. I became so bad at this game. Used to be one of the better guys on Dotaleague.
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 Alur   Denmark. June 25 2012 06:44. Posts 1547
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On June 25 2012 06:40 Koshi wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. But I don't really have specific questions. Jut searching some information. My first 3 games were really easy, against "bad" players, I went 22-0 with nevermore in my 4tht game and now I see that I am getting better opponents. However, I seem to level at the same rate.
But it is ok, I am just going to grind some games. I became so bad at this game. Used to be one of the better guys on Dotaleague.

Actually, you wen't 22-0 in your 3rd game :3
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 haitike   Spain. June 25 2012 06:46. Posts 705
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Most of the people in see in MM gets Vanguard in Razor, but many people says in the forum that Vanguard is not worth it in Ranged heroes.

Should I get Vanguard as a earlygame item in Razor?
 
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 LAN-f34r   New Zealand. June 25 2012 07:55. Posts 1057
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No. It used to be good, but van has been nerfed, especially for ranged heroes, so that it is no longer worth it. Instead, go drums (drums be amazing on razor), but feel free to get the RoH first for laning if you need it, since razors will normally build pipe. If their team doesn't have much magic damage (aka they went the famous 5 melee carry pub strat) and you still need regen for laning, you can go tranquil boots instead and change them into phase later.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
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 Kahzaar   Sweden. June 25 2012 08:00. Posts 478
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On June 24 2012 20:48 Dead9 wrote:
yea but it's more annoying to build anyway and the cd doesn't really matter

It's easier to get to the exact position you want to land on; using force staff you you have to look in that direction and know the exact distance. Blink dagger is (according to me) an offensive item while force staff is more defensive.
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 Koshi   Belgium. June 25 2012 08:45. Posts 6776
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Will something be reset when Beta ends?
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 Numy   South Africa. June 25 2012 08:49. Posts 7390
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They said nothing.
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  flamewheel   HANG KANG. June 25 2012 09:40. Posts 21503Profile Blog # 
Vanguard is just a bad item these days.
Clouds are making way for me.
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 Percutio   United States. June 25 2012 10:45. Posts 1366
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I like it for DS if I jungle and want arcane boots for my team. Otherwise I feel like soul ring and tranquil boots or naked ring into pipe is the smarter choice. Also drums, tranquil boots, and pms seem to be completely better for most other heroes that used to go vanguard. Even characters like AM and Spectre can just go pms, naked vit booster, and then ring for AM or tranq for Spectre.

Who still gets good use out of it?
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What does it matter how I loose it?
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 Erasme   France. June 25 2012 11:12. Posts 4087
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I still like it on Viper and Razor. But it's really good on NS. (get it on razor and go 1v3 like a man ezpz)
Axe, Clockwerk, Doom, Brewmaster and Slardar can all get Vanguard :D
Last edit: 2012-06-25 11:14:52
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 FinestHour   United States. June 25 2012 11:55. Posts 6755
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On June 25 2012 11:12 Erasme wrote:
I still like it on Viper and Razor. But it's really good on NS. (get it on razor and go 1v3 like a man ezpz)
Axe, Clockwerk, Doom, Brewmaster and Slardar can all get Vanguard :D


Why on earth would you get a vanguard on brewmaster
thug life.
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 Erasme   France. June 25 2012 12:12. Posts 4087
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On June 25 2012 11:55 FinestHour wrote:

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Why on earth would you get a vanguard on brewmaster

When you're too fat to blink. Saw Link do it, he couldn't farm blink dagger safely, so it helped him to survive stuns.
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  TheYango   United States. June 25 2012 12:13. Posts 15762Profile # 
Vanguard is essentially an item of convenience. You get it if you're going to get the parts individually, and have a good-but-fragile momentum going that you don't want to lose by sitting on component items for a while before your next big item finishes.

Nobody should *plan* around getting Vanguard at this point.


On June 25 2012 11:12 Erasme wrote:
I still like it on Viper and Razor. But it's really good on NS. (get it on razor and go 1v3 like a man ezpz)
Axe, Clockwerk, Doom, Brewmaster and Slardar can all get Vanguard :D

Vit+Hood is 10000x better on ranged heroes. You don't get any extra HP from Vanguard, and the block is extraordinarily weak for ranged. Turn Hood into Pipe later and Vit into Heart.


On June 25 2012 12:12 Erasme wrote:

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When you're too fat to blink. Saw Link do it, he couldn't farm blink dagger safely, so it helped him to survive stuns.

Except there's a bunch of other items that are better for that that are also way more useful for Brewmaster in the long run: Janggo, Vlad's, Point Booster (to turn into Agh's), Plate Mail (to turn into Cuirass later), etc.
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