| JaKaTaK United States. May 22 2012 12:26. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 05:35 kORALIE wrote:
Regarding hand placement on desk that's pretty much it. I red your blog and saw u guys are doing something with tilted keyboard placement for this new layout.
It's awesome. My english is so bad so I cant really "analyze" how great that hand placement actually is when your keyboard is slightly tilted. All I can say its way more ergonomic than normal, and you guys should absolutely do it that way.
I wish I could speak your language so I could talk to you in it, but I only know English  I will work on more languages! :D
Thank you for your input, it is super helpful :DLast edit: 2012-05-22 12:27:21 |
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| Gollomor Austria. May 23 2012 01:14. Posts 39 | Profile # |
OMG its so pretty awesome but so hard to learn
pls pls pls make an EU version on an EU - Keyboard cause i cant use it on the EU without change every second hotkey |
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| JaKaTaK United States. May 23 2012 04:45. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On May 23 2012 01:14 Gollomor wrote:OMG its so pretty awesome but so hard to learn pls pls pls make an EU version on an EU - Keyboard cause i cant use it on the EU without change every second hotkey
That's a really good point. Hopefully we'll have time to get to that after all the US versions are done. Definitely going to keep this in mind man. Thanks :D |
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| Gollomor Austria. May 23 2012 06:21. Posts 39 | Profile # |
no problem I test it a lot on the EU server but at the and some hotkeys was so far away that i cant play good like this i am so excited to see the EU version of this pretty awesome keyboard hotkeys i was thinking a lot about my own hotkeys and how i can put the ramp hotkey from F1 near to my finger and this hotkey layout is just awesome on this way.
Keep on this way.
It is very helpfull for me and for the community  .
Thx
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| IlK May 23 2012 08:22. Posts 18 | Profile # |
Did i miss something thats different for this layout between iso and ansi respectvely qwerty and qwertz or is it only the z/y?
Changing y and z was fast, simply open the file, search for "=z" and at every hit u change the Z to a Y (upper case!).
Here u can download it: Darkgrid_qwertz
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| JaKaTaK United States. May 23 2012 13:24. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On May 23 2012 08:22 IlK wrote:Did i miss something thats different for this layout between iso and ansi respectvely qwerty and qwertz or is it only the z/y? Changing y and z was fast, simply open the file, search for "=z" and at every hit u change the Z to a Y (upper case!). Here u can download it: Darkgrid_qwertz
You're so nice IIK, thanks :D
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| Gollomor Austria. May 24 2012 01:28. Posts 39 | Profile # | |
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| IlK May 24 2012 04:13. Posts 18 | Profile # |
The zirkumflex is a difference, i tried around a bit today and well...if i enter "backslash" for it its working fine.
So after adjusting that for center on selection (nice for the darkgrid injection method).
I didnt change keys ingame, i simply opened the layoutfile and changed every "=z" with "=y", thats 15seconds work on any reasonable text editor
For azerty players its gonna be a lot more work cuz e.g. w and z are both used so u have to delete all =w, give all =z->=w and then search for =_ and subsittute those with =z.
Thats something a machine does better then a human, should be not that hard to code(thank god the keys are on the end of the line, thats easy to check:D if last char==x make last char w, that for any key and its done) but since after the new layout there wont be new and better layouts the use for that is limited, and i think frenchies could use a real keyboard instead of their strange one:DLast edit: 2012-05-24 04:17:34 |
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| Dark.EX United States. May 24 2012 06:46. Posts 1504 | Profile Blog # |
-Alright Darkgrid players, we need your replays! Send them to me with your league (upload to a replay site, or something like google drive or microsoft skydrive). We'll be scanning them for statistics and comparing them to pros to help us design the new layouts. And we need a lot of them.
How should I send my replays? Should I just edit this post with some replay links, or PM them to you? |
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| Birdie New Zealand. May 24 2012 22:23. Posts 1226 | Profile Blog # |
On May 21 2012 08:40 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Did he provide any data supporting that claim? I find it doubtful because, as far as I understand, players who use the fingertip grip do not have circulation issued, and yet they never move their arms. On the other hand, I might be completely off base.
The fingertip grip rests your hand on the protruding bone, and as such doesn't block circulation at all. I generally can't easy use the same bone on my left hand on my keyboard, which is why having a still wrist blocking circulation makes sense. Of course stretching your hands and arms after games is important, regardless of position, but particularly if you're gaming for long periods of time I imagine it could be quite important, keeping your left hand circulating. I'll have to look into it more. |
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| Hachrt United States. May 26 2012 08:37. Posts 5 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 22:23 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 08:40 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Did he provide any data supporting that claim? I find it doubtful because, as far as I understand, players who use the fingertip grip do not have circulation issued, and yet they never move their arms. On the other hand, I might be completely off base.
The fingertip grip rests your hand on the protruding bone, and as such doesn't block circulation at all. I generally can't easy use the same bone on my left hand on my keyboard, which is why having a still wrist blocking circulation makes sense. Of course stretching your hands and arms after games is important, regardless of position, but particularly if you're gaming for long periods of time I imagine it could be quite important, keeping your left hand circulating. I'll have to look into it more.
This is also how I hold my mouse, and I can confirm this. Even when I'm using this mouse pad, which has a gel wrist rest, my protruding bone is where I rest my wrist. |
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| JaKaTaK United States. June 03 2012 04:00. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
| We've decided on theCore Thanks for everyone who helped out. The first batch of layouts should be released today :D |
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| ksert Germany. June 03 2012 04:19. Posts 6 | Profile # |
wow, this is so nice to hear guys!
i used the "old" darkgrid layout, and i am so excited about the new layout you guys make. thank you for all the work and time you spend on creating such a layout for the community. i hope there also comes a layout for german keyboards.
btw first post. Hello forum!!
greetings from germany |
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| FoxyMayhem June 03 2012 04:53. Posts 614 | Profile Blog # |
Hey ksert! Thanks for the lovely post!
TheCore, the new layout developed in conjunction with JaKaTaK (creator of another good layout), is now released in beta! This layout goes far beyond anything I've ever seen in layouts, and improves on DarkGrid in every way.
It may see changes as this is our first pulic beta. If you're okay with that, and want to take your control to the next level and reduce wrist strain, dive in!Last edit: 2012-06-03 07:11:55 |
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 baselmarkit July 25 2012 01:29. Posts 13 | Profile # |
| i really used this a lot and helped me to improve. thank you! |
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| darkachu August 03 2012 05:02. Posts 15 | Profile # |
| i hope you continue updating this, as well as for HOTS. Thecore or whatever the name is just falls short compared to this layout imo. |
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| Fairchild August 03 2012 05:33. Posts 132 | Profile # |
On August 03 2012 05:02 darkachu wrote:
i hope you continue updating this, as well as for HOTS. Thecore or whatever the name is just falls short compared to this layout imo.
agreed, the core is entirely too cramped and over-hyped.
Darkgrid has made me a better player and would love to see it continue evolving. |
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| esToDo United States. August 03 2012 08:03. Posts 14 | Profile # |
| i'd say if you would rather stick to darkgrid, you don't really need foxy to keep updating it. the fundamentals are there, it won't be hard to continue making changes to darkgrid to make it the most comfortable for you. Last edit: 2012-08-03 08:05:05 |
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