| Slaughter United States. September 09 2011 06:44. Posts 8262 | Profile Blog # |
| I used it, doesn't seem as effective as SmashGizmo's build O_o the active is fun to play with though. people don't expect you to have that lil extra nuke lol. |
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| stormtemplar United States. September 12 2011 08:14. Posts 1914 | Profile Blog # |
| Question, how do people deal with mana problems? I never have enough mana to cast a lot. |
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| dnastyx United States. September 12 2011 09:49. Posts 1442 | Profile Blog # |
Don't waste your mana.
Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)Last edit: 2011-09-12 09:50:16 |
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| stormtemplar United States. September 12 2011 11:08. Posts 1914 | Profile Blog # |
On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.
Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)
I saw one person who said he went meki pendant and someone said he went mana regen runes. Didn't see anything else |
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| Slaughter United States. September 12 2011 11:35. Posts 8262 | Profile Blog # |
| Are you talking about early game? I usually don't have mana problems. I would say if you can manage your spells and don't spam then you should be fine. It depppends on how you are doing in lane though. Like if your spear poke isn't doing much then don't use it as much and don't over spear when it does as they will just back off and go heal. Poke them down but you want to save your mana for when you want to jump in for a kill. regening when you go back for items and being smart with your harass and you should be fine. |
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| dnastyx United States. September 12 2011 13:24. Posts 1442 | Profile Blog # |
On September 12 2011 11:08 stormtemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.
Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)
I saw one person who said he went meki pendant and someone said he went mana regen runes. Didn't see anything else
And some people don't do either. Read through the thread; it's only 5 pages. |
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| Xenocide_Knight United States. September 24 2011 17:13. Posts 2137 | Profile Blog # |
So I haven't played Pantheon (or LoL for that matter) in a while. Last time I played, HSS was god awful and pretty much it was spear/stun/auto repeat. 1 level of HSS for the passive. Is that still a viable build? I loved the spear/stun pantheon to death, but couldn't stand him pre "nerf" when HSS was godly
EDIT: I think I stopped playing around 107/108 ish?Last edit: 2011-09-24 17:16:34 |
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| freelander Hungary. September 24 2011 18:25. Posts 3953 | Profile Blog # |
now HSS is good but only lasts 0.75 seconds (3 ticks) and has shorter CD
in early game it doesn't do jackshit though, unlike old HSS, but with 1 point in W you can use it to full duration , that's quite important
it has 3.6 bonus AD scaling against champions, that's nuts, and it finishes under 1 sec. It's your lategame superweapon |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 01 2011 06:17. Posts 3292 | Profile # | |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 07 2011 17:31. Posts 3292 | Profile # |
Smash, do you still open d-blade top if your opponent opens boots?
And more specific, how do you lane against an irellia?Last edit: 2011-10-07 18:57:45 |
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| barbsq United States. October 08 2011 00:55. Posts 3038 | Profile # |
On September 24 2011 17:13 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So I haven't played Pantheon (or LoL for that matter) in a while. Last time I played, HSS was god awful and pretty much it was spear/stun/auto repeat. 1 level of HSS for the passive. Is that still a viable build? I loved the spear/stun pantheon to death, but couldn't stand him pre "nerf" when HSS was godly
EDIT: I think I stopped playing around 107/108 ish?
basically last iteration, leveling w increased stun duration. now it does 1 sec at all levels, so its a 1 point wonder, and the cd goes from 13 to 9, which is really not worth leveling at all over hss
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On October 07 2011 17:31 JackDino wrote:
Smash, do you still open d-blade top if your opponent opens boots?
And more specific, how do you lane against an irellia?
lol, smash is tempbanned
edit2: and to try to best answer your question, i would imagine yes. the whole point of the dblade first is to go fight them at lvl 1 and either zone them or outright kill them. this will certainly work on irelia if she levels q or w first, not sure about e tho with creep dmg and all, dunno how that would work, but i'd imagine if you fought intelligently and abused ur passive it would still be okLast edit: 2011-10-08 00:59:05 |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 08 2011 00:57. Posts 3292 | Profile # |
Zzz anyone else have any advice in that case ?
I opened boots vs akali and I zoned her rather hard, tried opening Dblade and I just got kited @ the start, she could still cs with her Q.Last edit: 2011-10-08 01:16:29 |
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| Ryuu314 United States. October 08 2011 01:14. Posts 5311 | Profile # |
On October 08 2011 00:57 JackDino wrote:Zzz anyone else have any advice in that case ?
If u go dblade first u need to do damage at lvl 1 otherwise u will lose to pot openings. If you feel unsure or if it's a tough matchup go boots3
Laning against irelia u need to be aggressive lvl1 and keep the pressure on. I like taking tp so i can b to heal early to really pressure them. |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 08 2011 01:27. Posts 3292 | Profile # |
| I forced irellia back @ lvl1( I opened boots3) but then she came to lane with full hp while I wasn't 100%, got ganked and from there on I just was scared of her dmg(she just healed up every harass with her ult, felt like it had no cd). Usually I just fill in roles/play against bad people so I don't get to play him all that much. |
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| Ryuu314 United States. October 08 2011 04:54. Posts 5311 | Profile # |
On October 08 2011 01:27 JackDino wrote:
I forced irellia back @ lvl1( I opened boots3) but then she came to lane with full hp while I wasn't 100%, got ganked and from there on I just was scared of her dmg(she just healed up every harass with her ult, felt like it had no cd). Usually I just fill in roles/play against bad people so I don't get to play him all that much.
That's why I like teleport. This way if she backs, you can back as well and get in lane faster than she does. The thing about pantheon is you have to deal a lot of damage to them early. with the scaling buffs it's easier to keep the lead. For panth to succeed, you have to deprive the other guy of enough farm so that it's hard for them to get back in the game.
I just basically go stupidly aggressive with Pantheon starting lvl 1 and just maintain that lead. Every time they try to last hit just chuck spears at them and autoattack 'em. Dont' let them have free last hits ever. |
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| Mogwai United States. October 10 2011 22:55. Posts 8012 | Profile Blog # |
not having ignite vs. Irelia is a death sentence, you'll never be able to kill her, and frankly, if you don't kill Irelia, regardless of farm, she'll be able to stomp your shit come level 6.
you gotta just jump way way way far ahead in the early levels, so I just open dblade and deny her as hard as possible and make sure to back off when she backs off so that I don't get myself at an item disadvantage. if she opens ninja tabi though, you're kinda just fucked. |
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| InvaderUK United Kingdom. October 16 2011 00:17. Posts 64 | Profile # |
| How are people going about laning vs akali with panth at the moment? |
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| L Canada. October 16 2011 02:30. Posts 4546 | Profile Blog # |
On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.
Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)
And this is a stupid answer given that Panth's lane control is dependent on his ability to repeatedly spear the fuck out of someone.
The better answer is cast sparingly at levels 2 and 4 where the mana/damage efficiency is lower, but ramp it up during levels 3 and 5 to compensate. |
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| Ryuu314 United States. October 16 2011 04:36. Posts 5311 | Profile # |
On October 16 2011 02:30 L wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.
Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)
And this is a stupid answer given that Panth's lane control is dependent on his ability to repeatedly spear the fuck out of someone. The better answer is cast sparingly at levels 2 and 4 where the mana/damage efficiency is lower, but ramp it up during levels 3 and 5 to compensate.
Eh...I like being really aggressive at lvl 4 'cause you can easily kill someone when you hit 4 if they're not careful. Agreed about lvl 2 tho.
Against Akali you just have to be careful. I think you should win trades at lvl 1-2 if you're autoattacking a bunch, but Akali starts to out-trade you by like...lvl 3 or smth. |
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| Xenocide_Knight United States. October 17 2011 07:26. Posts 2137 | Profile Blog # |
Mogwai, I can say after trying your build, it's #1 Pantheon build. I never regretted a single BT
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