[Team] TL B - Page 65

On February 21 2012 05:50 Two_DoWn wrote:

On February 21 2012 05:41 Seuss wrote:

On February 21 2012 04:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Thoughts on game 1-

Why gank lvl 2 without w? Wasted op at level 3 after she used w. Not sure why ghandi was where he was at the blue fight. Wraiths wasted time- should have had blue- no ken ult, lb with no mana. You knew drag was up at 15:30- but went to wraiths and burned mana- GP should have cancelled that TP- no point the fight was already lost. Chobz & Ghandi really bad positioning in a lot of fights early. 25 minute mark- Chobz should not facecheck into 3.

Late game- you guys did a pretty bad job of dictating fights on your own terms- poor warding overall let them come in from angles and get to chobz which lost you a few fights.

Shoutout to GP- he did really well that game. Realistically better warding and navi not missing a few ults should have been the difference. But early game is still really really bad.

Monty notes (too bad it was your camera) - you need to be more efficient. You burn through your mana on Mao and dont really get anything out of it. Personally I find maxing e gives me a lot more clear power. And you really need to not leave an area where you need to be just to get a set of wraiths. Twice you had objectives you could have gotten but were out of position cuz you left the area.

I'm not sure what level 2 gank you were referring to. I was considering going to their blue but decided against it when it was clear that Trundle was heading there with LeBlanc, so I cleared Wraiths again.

Also not sure what missed opportunity you refer to at level 3. After she used W at ~4:15 she was in a safe enough position that there was no point in using Flash to grab her, especially considering Navi would have been too far away to capitalize. While damage would have been done, it wouldn't have been worth my Flash. The only moment it might have made sense was the moment I was rooted.

Wraiths at 15:30 was something of a communication/perception error. I was in position at 15:20, but aside from Ghandi warding the collapse wasn't happening. Then Trundle attacked Navi, so I entered his lane to support him and ward off Trundle. Solo queue/normal instincts kicked in and rather than vocally tell people "We need to get to dragon now." I grabbed Wraiths. A similar communication mistake happens in game 2 where Soniv and Ghandi go for dragon while I chase an out of position Sivir.

I think my actual mistake on mana was using E despite not skilling it up. Q is actually more mana efficient than E, but isn't as time efficient, so maxing it out first was necessary due to the losing the first blue buff. However, I still used E out of habit which defeated the purpose.

You went to the bush mid with no w, asking if navi wanted a gank. Should have just gone to wolves then back to wraiths.

You wasted time 3 cuz she popped w. That was your only shot cuz she had blue. If she used it just back off to go farm more if there was no opportunity. Getting her to blow it again meant nothing to her.

Ya I actually think E would have just helped you more that game. Less mana efficient, but MUCH better for clearing. Just give GP gols and focus on wolves wraiths every time they up and try to gank top/bot.