| Alick Bulgaria. October 25 2011 03:22. Posts 10 | Profile # |
The thing is, I don't really like the idea of getting all big and stuff, I kinda just wanna get in good shape / look good (as bad as it sounds). I'll probably force myself to eat a bit more, although that's pretty hard for me.
Thanks for the input anyway. =) |
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| glurio Germany. October 25 2011 03:33. Posts 566 | Profile # |
well looking good means having some muscle.
you won't get big over night, so there is no need to worry about getting "too big". you will never be as big as a pro bodybuilder. |
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| eshlow United States. October 25 2011 03:35. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 25 2011 03:22 Alick wrote:
The thing is, I don't really like the idea of getting all big and stuff, I kinda just wanna get in good shape / look good (as bad as it sounds). I'll probably force myself to eat a bit more, although that's pretty hard for me.
Thanks for the input anyway. =)
You're 6'5" and 152 lbs....
Basketball players who have decent physiques at your height are around 225-250 lbs....
You need to gain a lot of muscle to fill out that frame.
Eat more, lift weights. If you ever hit a point where you're satisfied you can stopLast edit: 2011-10-25 03:36:00 |
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| phyre112 United States. October 25 2011 04:30. Posts 2314 | Profile # |
On October 25 2011 03:35 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 03:22 Alick wrote:
The thing is, I don't really like the idea of getting all big and stuff, I kinda just wanna get in good shape / look good (as bad as it sounds). I'll probably force myself to eat a bit more, although that's pretty hard for me.
Thanks for the input anyway. =)
You're 6'5" and 152 lbs.... Basketball players who have decent physiques at your height are around 225-250 lbs.... You need to gain a lot of muscle to fill out that frame. Eat more, lift weights. If you ever hit a point where you're satisfied you can stop
For reference, i am 193not cm 82 kg, and i dont even look like i lift. Its going to take years of hard work even if you DID want to get big, so no need to worry about that right now. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 06:18. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
Managed to join a gym on a per-day basis while out of town, so that was awesome 
But everyone there...who were mostly doing pull ups, barbell curls and bench presses, looked at me weird when I was squatting. Afterwards, the trainer told me not to do it because I was sure to injure myself. He didn't point out anything specifically wrong with my form-though I asked him-just that it was suicide for a beginner to do squats, which were an outdated exercise anyway, and suggested various isolation exercises which he said were safer.
He freaked me out a little, but I'm assuming I can just ignore this right? |
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| Sneakyz Sweden. October 25 2011 06:31. Posts 2323 | Profile # |
Indeed.
There is nothing wrong with squats, it's a natural movement you just add weight to it. One would think a very popular beginners program like starting strength wouldn't be so popular if everyone who squatted injured themselves...
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| eshlow United States. October 25 2011 06:35. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
I guess infants and toddlers are going to destroy their knees when they stand up to start to walk...... oh wait.....
Squatting is a fundamental human movement. If done correctly it is very healthy. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 06:47. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
Thanks guys! Yeah i figured he was overplaying the dangers. Also, he said they were for legs only and while they definitely work my legs more than anything else, I do feel myself getting more solid in the back as well.
Moral of the story: sometimes official looking gym trainers can be as wrong as anyone else. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 07:40. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
Another quick Q: I like SS and am sticking to it but is there a reason it seems more popular here than SL 5x5? At first glance, it seems like the same program but with a couple more sets?
At first I thought it was the next step after SS, but it also bills itself as a novice program... |
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infinity21  Canada. October 25 2011 07:59. Posts 6262 | Profile Blog # |
| SL5x5 is nice but it gets taxing on the body quickly. After having done SL, I think SS is better for peace of mind. I don't like how you will start stalling very quickly because 5x5 is a lot of volume for anyone. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 08:10. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
| Cheers! So when I start stalling on my lifts (hopefully not for awhile yet because Im REALLY comfortable with SS, aside from the shoulder press) SL is not the answer, eh? I guess rips practical training programme would be the way to go? |
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| infinity21 Canada. October 25 2011 08:16. Posts 6262 | Profile Blog # |
| By the 3rd time you deload on SS assuming you've been eating & sleeping pretty well overall, you should be moving quite a bit of weight around so you can move on to intermediate programs. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 08:26. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
sweet! Aaite, LAST question for the night (promise, hope im not annoying you guys)
Ive found I love lifting but dislike warming up. Now, this doesn't mean I won't do it but I'm hardly lifting much weight yet.
If I remember right, the squat warmup + work sets should serve as 80% of the warmup for the other two exercises.
However, I'm only really squatting 90 lbs. I warm up with weightless squats and then two quick sets on the empty bar.
Then, I do empty bar warmups for whatever press i do that day. I don't warm up on the deadlift or power clean, as they are the last of my sets.
So am I doing something wrong? How heavy does the weight have to be before warmup has to be several sets at differing weights? Because it seems like it would just be a waste currently. Also, I guess I have this fear that I'll tire myself out on warmup. |
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| infinity21 Canada. October 25 2011 08:43. Posts 6262 | Profile Blog # |
| eshlow told me to warm up with 25s and 45s only and it's been working quite well for me since I don't have to spend time calculating what 80% of my work set is etc. and finding all the right plates every time. So for example, for my squats today, I did 45x5, 95x5, 135x5, 185x5, 225x1, then jumped into 250 for my work set. Warm-ups should never fatigue you for your work sets although they should get your blood flowing. |
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| decafchicken United States. October 25 2011 08:45. Posts 15129 | Profile Blog # |
On October 25 2011 03:01 Alick wrote:
Hey! Kinda feels weird that this would be my first post since I've been lurking around but I really could use some advice.
I'm 2 metres tall (about 6.5 I believe) and weigh 69 kgs (152 lbs or something like that). I haven't been exactly the sports type but I picked up swimming & gym over the summer and stuck with it. I go to the gym and swim 6 days a week (3 gym / 3 swim / rest on Sunday). I'm trying to eat fairly healthy. I believe my diet is somewhere between 1700-2000 calories.
Do I actually need more rest between workouts to get any 'effect'/results, or should I just keep at it? I don't really feel tired that much and I'll probably start feeling lazy if I skip a day.
You're at the appropriate weight if you were a good ~30cm shorter. You need to start eating 4k+ calories a day and lifting some heavier weights (SEE STARTING STRENGTH in the general training recommendations) if you ever want to have a desirable body. I would put on AT LEAST 50 pounds, if not more.
On October 25 2011 06:18 Autofire2 wrote:Managed to join a gym on a per-day basis while out of town, so that was awesome But everyone there...who were mostly doing pull ups, barbell curls and bench presses, looked at me weird when I was squatting. Afterwards, the trainer told me not to do it because I was sure to injure myself. He didn't point out anything specifically wrong with my form-though I asked him-just that it was suicide for a beginner to do squats, which were an outdated exercise anyway, and suggested various isolation exercises which he said were safer. He freaked me out a little, but I'm assuming I can just ignore this right?
As mentioned above, squatting is amazing for you. I would have laughed until it hurt and then done everything in my power to have that trainer fired, then squatted him out the gym.
And yeah at 90 lb squat you don't have to worry THAT much about warming up as it's only like 2x the bar. A few quick warm up sets/quick stretching should be fine. The heavier the weight gets the more you need to warm up (obviously) |
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| kaisr Canada. October 25 2011 08:56. Posts 691 | Profile # |
| I've been coming down with a cold and as per the advice of TLHF I've looked around the house for some vitamin D. I managed to find 1000IU ones. Can i assume that its OK to take 10 of them at a time even though they have nonmedical ingredients such as Cellulose, dicalcium phosphate, modified cellulose gum, vegetable magnesium stearate? |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 09:11. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
| Thanks guys! I think I'll start asking for more specific warm up advice when I can squat bodyweight at least (165)...which is probably around the time I should be figuring out whether to go into an intermediate program or stick with SS. |
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| jjhchsc2 Korea (South). October 25 2011 17:36. Posts 2390 | Profile # |
good luck!
Is there any information i can use to convince my friend that fast intake/ digestion of proetin aka protein shake is not compulsory?after workouts. and that a standard healthy meal with meats and bit of healthy carbs and fats is probably better if it's more nutricious?
he keeps bugging me that i should be drinking shakes after workouts or i wont get big...
Any info would be appreciated! |
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| glurio Germany. October 25 2011 18:00. Posts 566 | Profile # |
| Just drink a shake and eat a healthy meal? More calories. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. October 25 2011 18:25. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
Look at the links in the TL health initiative. There are various sources around debunking the myth that you need protein immediately.
But yeah if you want to get big, why NOT drink a shake? Also: drink your milk. Dead serious. |
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