| GoTuNk! Chile. December 03 2011 21:58. Posts 2224 | Profile Blog # |
On December 03 2011 17:03 Karliath wrote:
Question: Some days, I can't do the usual amount of push-ups I usually can. I understand what "normal" workout soreness feels like, and this isn't the case.
On these days, my arms feel dead/zombie-like. It feels like I physically do not have the strength to do the amount of pushups I'm used to. Hence, I don't get a good workout, nor do I feel sore.
(Sitting on your chair right now, try to break your chair just by sitting there. That's kind of how I feel on these days. There's no soreness, because the task, physically, feels impossible. Yet I'm perfectly fine on other days.)
Why is this happening? I'm assuming I might be overworking myself in some way, but I'm curious as to why this occurs, in contrast to normal soreness.
I'm gonna take a guess and say you are either going all in every workout (trying to increase number/reps every session) or always doing the same rep/set scheme. Both ways stop working after a month or two.
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. December 04 2011 20:51. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
What are your thoughts on resting between sets/exercises? This was touched upon earlier but more specifically:
How long a rest do most people take? It must vary a lot between novice and intermediate and pro lifters I assume?
What do you do when you "rest"? I'm sometimes unsure whether its better to sit completely relaxed, or walk around, or stretch, or what.
Finally, when do you know your rest period is over? Do you time it? Do you wait for a certain feeling in your muscles? This is the biggest problem I have: my body lies to me, and says "dude you CANNOT squat again" even when I can. How do I train myself to "know" when I've rested sufficiently? |
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| glurio Germany. December 04 2011 22:32. Posts 566 | Profile # |
I lift 3-5 minutes on really heavy sets on compound exercises and 90sec on everything else.
I don't time the 3-5 minutes i basically go again when my heartrate went down a bit and i don't feel like shit anymore. |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. December 05 2011 00:55. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
| HEARTRATE! that's a good one. So I should rest until my heartrate and breathing is normalized? |
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| Logros Netherlands. December 05 2011 04:19. Posts 9728 | Profile # |
| I'm gonna take about a month off of heavy lifting to recover some injuries that keep nagging and because I have no gym during the holidays. I thought I'd just do leangains for a cut again so the time is not wasted, but what would be the best way to minimize muscle loss? I was thinking of doing some sprinting and BW (pistol) squats because my legs are fine, but I'd like to avoid loading my shoulders as much as possible. |
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| billy5000 United States. December 05 2011 04:34. Posts 610 | Profile Blog # |
On December 05 2011 00:55 Autofire2 wrote:
HEARTRATE! that's a good one. So I should rest until my heartrate and breathing is normalized?
Personally, my breathing normalizes in a minute or so after squats. For bench and most other exercises, I'm guessing 5 seconds at the longest. So to answer your question, I wouldn't rely on heartrate to get back into your sets. Instead, just rest 3-5min like someone said (I do this too), and change it up for each exercise. Some people rest up to 10min for squats, and that's fine if it works for them. For me, I have this mindset of resting as long as possible to lift just as much or more on the consecutive set, but not resting too long that my epinephrine levels drop. |
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| NeedsmoreCELLTECH Netherlands. December 05 2011 06:17. Posts 610 | Profile Blog # |
On December 05 2011 04:19 Logros wrote:
I'm gonna take about a month off of heavy lifting to recover some injuries that keep nagging and because I have no gym during the holidays. I thought I'd just do leangains for a cut again so the time is not wasted, but what would be the best way to minimize muscle loss? I was thinking of doing some sprinting and BW (pistol) squats because my legs are fine, but I'd like to avoid loading my shoulders as much as possible.
Shit why a full month? Seems retardedly long. Why not just deload for a week?Last edit: 2011-12-05 06:18:11 |
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| Logros Netherlands. December 05 2011 08:19. Posts 9728 | Profile # |
On December 05 2011 06:17 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 04:19 Logros wrote:
I'm gonna take about a month off of heavy lifting to recover some injuries that keep nagging and because I have no gym during the holidays. I thought I'd just do leangains for a cut again so the time is not wasted, but what would be the best way to minimize muscle loss? I was thinking of doing some sprinting and BW (pistol) squats because my legs are fine, but I'd like to avoid loading my shoulders as much as possible.
Shit why a full month? Seems retardedly long. Why not just deload for a week?
My right shoulder still isn't ok even though I've been at the PT since September. I've haven't been doing much direct chest/shoulder stuff besides mobility work, so I want to see if it gets better if I take complete rest for a while. Maybe the heavy deadlifting and squatting is still stressing it too much even though it doesn't hurt. I'd rather rest for a month and be able to work my upper body properly again than let this drag on for much longer.
Another reason is that I hurt my left shoulder somehow carrying something down the stairs last weekend, but it's not too bad, just needs a week or 2 rest. After that I don't have a gym for about 2 weeks (and a ton of exams to study for) so I thought I might as well take the time to properly recover. Last edit: 2011-12-05 08:19:59 |
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| Zafrumi Switzerland. December 06 2011 23:07. Posts 1257 | Profile # |
| question: I gave blood today, should I take it easy in my workout tomorrow? or just go by how I feel? |
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| eshlow United States. December 06 2011 23:44. Posts 5016 | Profile # |
On December 06 2011 23:07 Zafrumi wrote:
question: I gave blood today, should I take it easy in my workout tomorrow? or just go by how I feel?
I'd play it by feel. If you're just doing strength work then that's fine |
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| Dromar United States. December 07 2011 05:37. Posts 1777 | Profile Blog # |
Ok, I'm trying to figure out how to do the clean and press, and I'm seeing lots of conflicting advice.
Some places say I should start squatting down (initial position for deadlift), and drive the bar up to shoulder height from there. Other places say I should deadlift first and get into a standing position, then get the bar to shoulder height through a jump-shrug motion. Still others say I should do that, but also squat down as I row/shrug to get under the bar.
Which way is right, or are they all variations of this exercise? Normally I just watch a few youtube videos, and they all say the same thing, but for this exercise, the youtube and websites all have different instructions. |
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| decafchicken United States. December 07 2011 07:50. Posts 15176 | Profile Blog # | |
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infinity21  Canada. December 07 2011 07:54. Posts 6272 | Profile Blog # |
What's a good replacement for chin-ups? I started doing power cleans but they don't really work my biceps or lats much.
I want big beautiful biceps :D |
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| glurio Germany. December 07 2011 08:10. Posts 566 | Profile # | |
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| emperorchampion Canada. December 07 2011 08:20. Posts 4138 | Profile Blog # |
On December 07 2011 07:54 infinity21 wrote:
What's a good replacement for chin-ups? I started doing power cleans but they don't really work my biceps or lats much.
I want big beautiful biceps :D
I'm somewhat confused, how did power cleans replace chins? Can't you just do both?
On December 07 2011 05:37 Dromar wrote:
Ok, I'm trying to figure out how to do the clean and press, and I'm seeing lots of conflicting advice.
Some places say I should start squatting down (initial position for deadlift), and drive the bar up to shoulder height from there. Other places say I should deadlift first and get into a standing position, then get the bar to shoulder height through a jump-shrug motion. Still others say I should do that, but also squat down as I row/shrug to get under the bar.
Which way is right, or are they all variations of this exercise? Normally I just watch a few youtube videos, and they all say the same thing, but for this exercise, the youtube and websites all have different instructions.
When starting out, I think it's best to learn from the hang (standing position) then move to the floor. Check out the Olympic Weightlifting thread for stuff dimsum wrote.Last edit: 2011-12-07 08:24:53 |
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| decafchicken United States. December 07 2011 08:23. Posts 15176 | Profile Blog # |
On December 07 2011 07:54 infinity21 wrote:
What's a good replacement for chin-ups? I started doing power cleans but they don't really work my biceps or lats much.
I want big beautiful biceps :D
Why not just do chin ups? If you're doing powercleans with good technique they work your lats. |
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| infinity21 Canada. December 07 2011 08:34. Posts 6272 | Profile Blog # |
I don't want to risk getting headaches again. I posted about it a couple of weeks ago and I still get minor headaches. Since chin-ups is the only thing that seems to aggravate that headache, I'd rather have a replacement exercise that hopefully won't hurt.
power cleans and curlz in the squat rack? lolLast edit: 2011-12-07 08:38:04 |
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| emperorchampion Canada. December 07 2011 08:54. Posts 4138 | Profile Blog # |
On December 07 2011 08:34 infinity21 wrote:
I don't want to risk getting headaches again. I posted about it a couple of weeks ago and I still get minor headaches. Since chin-ups is the only thing that seems to aggravate that headache, I'd rather have a replacement exercise that hopefully won't hurt.
power cleans and curlz in the squat rack? lol
Ahh yeah, gotta hit up those curls in the squat rack for sure then  |
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| purecarnagge December 08 2011 00:49. Posts 708 | Profile # |
I don't know if Im' doing enough for my first week back in the gym... I selected a more affordable keycard access place called snap fitness compared to the 60.00 a month plus new member fee (99.99) place with a 1 year contract. The disadvantage is this place uses machines... hardly any free weights. They use like cybex or something... I dunno...
I started off doing 20 mins no impact eliptical, 20 mins treadmill 4% incline walking, 25 crunches 10x10x5. then 10 mins on treadmill again. I'm completely out of shape and have a arthritic left knee so jogging and running isn't adviseable. Is there anything else that I should be doing that I'm not? In 2-3 weeks when I feel my cardio has improved enough I will move into full out weights. |
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| Zafrumi Switzerland. December 08 2011 01:50. Posts 1257 | Profile # |
| dont need cardio to start weightlifting. your knee on the other hand might be an issue. gotta wait for eshlow for a verdict! |
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