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| rEiGN~ June 02 2012 03:04. Posts 360 | Profile # |
| mordek: some people running LeanGains lift fasted and really it splits opinions, some say they crack PRs but some don't like it. personally training in the evening is more convenient for me so I don't train fasted. |
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| mordek United States. June 02 2012 03:33. Posts 3318 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah mornings are just what I'm stuck with now. My question was more is there anything harmful with not eating anything 5 hours post workout. The fasted state was just some side info, nothing critical. I would prefer afternoons to be honest. |
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| Lifan United States. June 02 2012 10:52. Posts 57 | Profile # |
Hey guys, not sure if I'm supposed to make a new thread so:
Is there a disease which results from too much brain activity? |
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| Ludrik Australia. June 02 2012 11:10. Posts 523 | Profile Blog # |
I think people with epilepsy have excessive brain activity when they have seizures. Are you having physical or mental symptoms which are causing you to ask this? People with anxiety disorders could think that it is "too much brain activity".
Just on a side note. Does anyone else think this forum is lacking when it comes to mental health? Mental health problems are surprisingly common, particularly things like depression. It would be good to have at least a sticky with links to where people could get help regarding these issues.I could write something up when I have a bit more time, however my knowledge is limited to mental health first aid situations. |
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| funkie Venezuela. June 02 2012 11:16. Posts 9061 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 11:10 Ludrik wrote:
I think people with epilepsy have excessive brain activity when they have seizures. Are you having physical or mental symptoms which are causing you to ask this? People with anxiety disorders could think that it is "too much brain activity".
Just on a side note. Does anyone else think this forum is lacking when it comes to mental health? Mental health problems are surprisingly common, particularly things like depression. It would be good to have at least a sticky with links to where people could get help regarding these issues.I could write something up when I have a bit more time, however my knowledge is limited to mental health first aid situations.
Yeah good point.
Actually I suffer from anxiety. I tend to move my legs, if I'm sitting down, I'll star moving my feet or legs repeatedly, or I don't get enough sleep, this and that. Gym, working out and eating healthy has helped a lot, it has been quite some time since I last had an anxiety attack, and no I'm not on medication :3. |
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| GoTuNk! Chile. June 02 2012 12:14. Posts 2223 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 03:33 mordek wrote:
Yeah mornings are just what I'm stuck with now. My question was more is there anything harmful with not eating anything 5 hours post workout. The fasted state was just some side info, nothing critical. I would prefer afternoons to be honest.
I would die of hunger if I didn't eat something after I'm done lifting  . Why would you do that to yourself? Joke aside, yeah its really bad, ur recovery will be shit. At least get a protein shake and sip one scoop after and another 2 hours later if possible.
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| eshlow United States. June 02 2012 20:17. Posts 5014 | Profile # |
| A mental health thread would be good although implementing it would be difficult to find an expert on the subject. I know some stuff but I am far from an expert on things of that nature. |
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| Lifan United States. June 03 2012 09:50. Posts 57 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 11:10 Ludrik wrote:
I think people with epilepsy have excessive brain activity when they have seizures. Are you having physical or mental symptoms which are causing you to ask this? People with anxiety disorders could think that it is "too much brain activity".
Just on a side note. Does anyone else think this forum is lacking when it comes to mental health? Mental health problems are surprisingly common, particularly things like depression. It would be good to have at least a sticky with links to where people could get help regarding these issues.I could write something up when I have a bit more time, however my knowledge is limited to mental health first aid situations.
No, it's just that my friend always has random grunts, and he tells me its because of an overload of brain activity and "the energy has to come out somewhere". So a disease may not be the most accurate word, but I just want to know if it's possible, what he said
Edit: Anyways, another question, I'm 13 right now, healthy bmi, not depressed or anything.
I used to always eat a ton, always hungry, even hungry directly after I finish eating.
But for some reason, a few months ago, I suddenly just stop becoming hungry, I'd just eat a few bits and feel, not satisfied, but full. Is there something wrong? Should I visit a doctor?Last edit: 2012-06-04 08:38:15 |
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| Ludrik Australia. June 04 2012 12:51. Posts 523 | Profile Blog # |
On June 03 2012 09:50 Lifan wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 11:10 Ludrik wrote:
I think people with epilepsy have excessive brain activity when they have seizures. Are you having physical or mental symptoms which are causing you to ask this? People with anxiety disorders could think that it is "too much brain activity".
Just on a side note. Does anyone else think this forum is lacking when it comes to mental health? Mental health problems are surprisingly common, particularly things like depression. It would be good to have at least a sticky with links to where people could get help regarding these issues.I could write something up when I have a bit more time, however my knowledge is limited to mental health first aid situations.
No, it's just that my friend always has random grunts, and he tells me its because of an overload of brain activity and "the energy has to come out somewhere". So a disease may not be the most accurate word, but I just want to know if it's possible, what he said Edit: Anyways, another question, I'm 13 right now, healthy bmi, not depressed or anything. I used to always eat a ton, always hungry, even hungry directly after I finish eating. But for some reason, a few months ago, I suddenly just stop becoming hungry, I'd just eat a few bits and feel, not satisfied, but full. Is there something wrong? Should I visit a doctor?
Your friend may have Tourettes syndrome or something along those lines.
Don't know anything about the hunger thing though. I'd assume it wouldn't be much of a problem. Did your diet change around this time (i.e. cutting out sugary foods)? |
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| Autofire2 Pakistan. June 04 2012 13:52. Posts 268 | Profile Blog # |
I'm not setting PRs much anymore. How bad is it if on the day im going for a PR (this is SS) on a particular exercise, I reduce the rest of my workload for that day?
It doesn't happen too much and it realllly pumps me up and, mentally, I think its easier hitting the PR if im like "OK just this and im DONE." |
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 Daigomi South Africa. June 04 2012 16:18. Posts 4302 | Profile Blog # |
On June 04 2012 13:52 Autofire2 wrote:
I'm not setting PRs much anymore. How bad is it if on the day im going for a PR (this is SS) on a particular exercise, I reduce the rest of my workload for that day?
It doesn't happen too much and it realllly pumps me up and, mentally, I think its easier hitting the PR if im like "OK just this and im DONE."
Personally, I just do the PR exercise first and then do what I can after that. For example, if I'm going for an important DL PR, I'll deadlift before squats, just when I get to the gym. That way, I know I've got full energy to hit the deadlifts with. I still do squats like I am supposed to afterwards, but since my legs are usually quite tired by then, the squats are less likely to progress.
Technically you should be going for a PR every session, so I'm not sure how well it would work to reduce the workload when you attempt a PR. For me, it's more a case of when I get stuck with a certain exercise I prioritise it by moving it earlier in the session. |
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| darthfoley United States. June 06 2012 13:18. Posts 2233 | Profile Blog # |
Alright, i have kind of a long question that's probably pretty common.
I know it probably has something to do with genetics and "everyone develops at different rates" or whatever, but my lower body is completely filled out. My chest is relatively filled out, but my arms are quite "small" and strength wise, which kind of makes me look weird in a way. Is there any way I can fill my arms out? Any tips or tricks besides steroids?
Background: I play football (american), and i lift 3 or 4 times a week depending on our schedule. Usually 2 days upper body, 1 day lower body. I'm not immensely strong for a 17 year old (215 max bench, 375 squat) but i can hold my own. However i'm really looking to put on around 10 pounds before august to get me up to 210. Preferrably to my arms, so I look/feel more balanced.
Upper body: I always bench, incline bench, shoulder press, dumbell bicep curls and tricep extension. My triceps are relatively developed but i feel like my weak points are my biceps/forearms. Besides bicep curls, and the rope-weight forearm work out, are there any other lifts that could help out?
One thing I haven't done really is protein shakes. I have lame protein drinks but no powder, how effective is the protein powder stuff? Any suggestions or brands or specific stuff I could get at a local place?
I wasn't sure if i could post a new thread, so this Q&A thread seemed like the best bet. I'll spoiler a few pictures to hopefully show what i mean with my physique, if that's alright.
Thanks in advance, all help is appreciated.
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/300968_2408512684998_421168873_n.jpg) This was from last season, so many months ago. I've developed a little more, but you can clearly see a disparity in my lower/upper body. |
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| decafchicken United States. June 06 2012 14:25. Posts 15176 | Profile Blog # |
You're a high school football player, which means you're probably on a weight training plan that has very little to do with making you a better football player and probably doing something very similar to what i was doing when i was 17. I'd scrap pretty much everything you're doing now and focus on a few things
-Eat Big. If you wanna put on 10 pounds in the next 3 months you're going to have to eat a surplus of 3500 calories a week. So if you burn through 4000/day being your ht/wt/age/football, then you need to eat 4500 a day. Google BMR calc to find out how much you burn. Literally just eat everything in sight at all times. Preferably natural foods, but fuck it you're putting on weight just keep eating.
-Lift Big: If you want to get better at football doing various benching twice a week won't do anything for you. Football is a high output sport. Power cleans and jerks are going to be your best exercise. Do these as heavy as you can (WITH GOOD FORM CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH LIKE THIS: + Show Spoiler + INQUIRE FURTHER FOR MORE DETAILS)
Next most important lift is squats. Also do these as often as possible (3x a week is a good starting point). After that i'd say deadlifts would be the next best thing but between squats and powercleans you cover pretty much everything. Once you've got those out of the way you can do military press/bench/ weighted chin ups/dips/etc. Just stick to heavy compound lifts.
-Recover big: You don't put on muscle at the gym, you do it while you're recovering. If you're eating and sleeping and taking proper care of your muscles you will reap maximum gains.
-Be consistent and accountable. Keep track of your food intake and a log of your lifts. Watch yourself pack on pounds and strength and run over newbs on the field.
-Don't worry about stupid shit you've been told all your life that is important like what brand of protein or if you did enough tricep extension variations. Meat and milk are great brands of protein and if you're powercleaning 300 pounds most people will shit themselves before they think twice about your bicep dimensions.
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| lannisport June 06 2012 15:04. Posts 644 | Profile # |
Okay guys I really need help with this. I'm moving in a loft type space around the beach area in the summer and I've been desperately looking for close by gyms that have a god damn fucking squat rack in them. But no go. There are Bikram Yoga gyms, dog gyms, but no freaking normal gym. I used to detest generic type gyms like Extreme Fitness or Goodlife, but at least they have a rack or two at their gyms! The closest gym I found was a crossfit one but their monthly prices are a quarter of my rent...I am lucky to be paying $50 a month right now for my gym membership. I'd much rather spend 900 bucks on a home gym.
Okay so I found a general recommendation, which is layering like this 1) Hardwood Floor 2) Some sort of rug 3) Plywood (Rug to keep this from scratching the floor) and 4) Stall mat, with the power rack on top. Here is the thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=136641661&page=1 Does this make sense? I know some of you guys probably engineers, will this save my hardwood floors?
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| Ludrik Australia. June 06 2012 17:25. Posts 523 | Profile Blog # |
That seems like a good setup. The plywood distributes the load over a greater area. So obviously the thicker/stiffer the plywood the better it is at distributing the load. The rug shouldn't have to be to thick. You just need to make sure it isn't too coarse a thread. If the rug is the same thickness but with thinner threads then there's even less chance of floor damage.
Overall it shouldn't be too hard to set something suitable up. |
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| -stOpSKY- Canada. June 06 2012 18:09. Posts 481 | Profile # |
On June 06 2012 13:18 darthfoley wrote:Alright, i have kind of a long question that's probably pretty common. I know it probably has something to do with genetics and "everyone develops at different rates" or whatever, but my lower body is completely filled out. My chest is relatively filled out, but my arms are quite "small" and strength wise, which kind of makes me look weird in a way. Is there any way I can fill my arms out? Any tips or tricks besides steroids? Background: I play football (american), and i lift 3 or 4 times a week depending on our schedule. Usually 2 days upper body, 1 day lower body. I'm not immensely strong for a 17 year old (215 max bench, 375 squat) but i can hold my own. However i'm really looking to put on around 10 pounds before august to get me up to 210. Preferrably to my arms, so I look/feel more balanced. Upper body: I always bench, incline bench, shoulder press, dumbell bicep curls and tricep extension. My triceps are relatively developed but i feel like my weak points are my biceps/forearms. Besides bicep curls, and the rope-weight forearm work out, are there any other lifts that could help out? One thing I haven't done really is protein shakes. I have lame protein drinks but no powder, how effective is the protein powder stuff? Any suggestions or brands or specific stuff I could get at a local place? I wasn't sure if i could post a new thread, so this Q&A thread seemed like the best bet. I'll spoiler a few pictures to hopefully show what i mean with my physique, if that's alright. Thanks in advance, all help is appreciated. + Show Spoiler + This was from last season, so many months ago. I've developed a little more, but you can clearly see a disparity in my lower/upper body.
Bicep curls
Hammer curls
Underhand pull-ups
Tricep extensions
Pull downs
Preacher curls
Close grip bench for the tris
skullcrushers
all good exercises to increase size in your arms bro.
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| Zafrumi Switzerland. June 06 2012 21:08. Posts 1257 | Profile # |
On June 06 2012 14:25 decafchicken wrote:You're a high school football player, which means you're probably on a weight training plan that has very little to do with making you a better football player and probably doing something very similar to what i was doing when i was 17. I'd scrap pretty much everything you're doing now and focus on a few things -Eat Big. If you wanna put on 10 pounds in the next 3 months you're going to have to eat a surplus of 3500 calories a week. So if you burn through 4000/day being your ht/wt/age/football, then you need to eat 4500 a day. Google BMR calc to find out how much you burn. Literally just eat everything in sight at all times. Preferably natural foods, but fuck it you're putting on weight just keep eating. -Lift Big: If you want to get better at football doing various benching twice a week won't do anything for you. Football is a high output sport. Power cleans and jerks are going to be your best exercise. Do these as heavy as you can (WITH GOOD FORM CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH LIKE THIS: + Show Spoiler + INQUIRE FURTHER FOR MORE DETAILS) Next most important lift is squats. Also do these as often as possible (3x a week is a good starting point). After that i'd say deadlifts would be the next best thing but between squats and powercleans you cover pretty much everything. Once you've got those out of the way you can do military press/bench/ weighted chin ups/dips/etc. Just stick to heavy compound lifts. -Recover big: You don't put on muscle at the gym, you do it while you're recovering. If you're eating and sleeping and taking proper care of your muscles you will reap maximum gains. -Be consistent and accountable. Keep track of your food intake and a log of your lifts. Watch yourself pack on pounds and strength and run over newbs on the field. -Don't worry about stupid shit you've been told all your life that is important like what brand of protein or if you did enough tricep extension variations. Meat and milk are great brands of protein and if you're powercleaning 300 pounds most people will shit themselves before they think twice about your bicep dimensions.
I agree with your advice, although you did not answer his question really he asked how to get bigger arms. power cleans and squats probably arent the best exercises for that
besides what stopsky already mentioned I strongly recommend weighted chin ups. imo they are the best bicep workout you can do! |
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| darthfoley United States. June 06 2012 21:32. Posts 2233 | Profile Blog # |
On June 06 2012 21:08 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 14:25 decafchicken wrote:You're a high school football player, which means you're probably on a weight training plan that has very little to do with making you a better football player and probably doing something very similar to what i was doing when i was 17. I'd scrap pretty much everything you're doing now and focus on a few things -Eat Big. If you wanna put on 10 pounds in the next 3 months you're going to have to eat a surplus of 3500 calories a week. So if you burn through 4000/day being your ht/wt/age/football, then you need to eat 4500 a day. Google BMR calc to find out how much you burn. Literally just eat everything in sight at all times. Preferably natural foods, but fuck it you're putting on weight just keep eating. -Lift Big: If you want to get better at football doing various benching twice a week won't do anything for you. Football is a high output sport. Power cleans and jerks are going to be your best exercise. Do these as heavy as you can (WITH GOOD FORM CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH LIKE THIS: + Show Spoiler + INQUIRE FURTHER FOR MORE DETAILS) Next most important lift is squats. Also do these as often as possible (3x a week is a good starting point). After that i'd say deadlifts would be the next best thing but between squats and powercleans you cover pretty much everything. Once you've got those out of the way you can do military press/bench/ weighted chin ups/dips/etc. Just stick to heavy compound lifts. -Recover big: You don't put on muscle at the gym, you do it while you're recovering. If you're eating and sleeping and taking proper care of your muscles you will reap maximum gains. -Be consistent and accountable. Keep track of your food intake and a log of your lifts. Watch yourself pack on pounds and strength and run over newbs on the field. -Don't worry about stupid shit you've been told all your life that is important like what brand of protein or if you did enough tricep extension variations. Meat and milk are great brands of protein and if you're powercleaning 300 pounds most people will shit themselves before they think twice about your bicep dimensions.
I agree with your advice, although you did not answer his question really he asked how to get bigger arms. power cleans and squats probably arent the best exercises for that besides what stopsky already mentioned I strongly recommend weighted chin ups. imo they are the best bicep workout you can do!
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| eshlow United States. June 06 2012 22:17. Posts 5014 | Profile # |
darthfoley
Basically, what you should be doing is building the core of your workout around:
1. squat, deadlift, powerclean
2. Pullups, rows
3. dips, bench press, overhead press
And then add in a couple of supplement exercises for arms if you want |
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 JingleHell United States. June 06 2012 22:32. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
Frankly, darthfoley, I feel your pain on the aesthetics, I really do. But consider functional aesthetics. How many people will laugh about the size of your arms after you trample them underfoot a couple of times?
I remember high school football. And trying to gain weight for it. After I graduated and left for basic, my parents grocery bill went down by about 85%. The poor fridge couldn't stay full, and I wouldn't gain weight. A gallon of milk, a frozen pizza, half of one of those big bags of cold cereal, a pack of hot dogs, a box of pop tarts, 2 thick ham and cheese sandwiches, two school lunches, and 4 junior bacon cheeseburgers from Wendy's per day was about my average. Plus whatever my mom made for dinner. Of which there were never leftovers. And she generally still cooked like she did when she was a kid with 6 siblings |
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