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| eshlow United States. September 22 2011 09:43. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On September 22 2011 06:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I follow paleo to some extent. I try to keep things relatively easy for myself. For example I eat no more sweets and have replaced all my snacks (previously chips) with nuts and pure chocolate. By doing this I feel like I give up nothing in my life and it's really easy to commit to.
I don't eat bread anymore at home, but if I go to out for dinner to a restaurant or something I'll still eat it if it's on the table. My breakfast always used to be bread now I'm mostly eating egg+something. Still can't say no to a glass of milk. No more rice/potatoes at dinner at home, but I don't mind eating fries at a restaurant occasionally.
Haha, you pretty much do what I do. Eat Paleo as much as possible, but relax while I'm out and want to have a good time.
Smart man. 
Also updated OP to make some distinguishing differences from eating Paleo with diseases, as an athlete, healthy, etc.Last edit: 2011-09-22 09:44:25 |
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 Bockit Sydney. September 22 2011 10:52. Posts 2286 | Profile Blog # |
Paleo seems to be one of those things I'm seeing crop up everywhere from people whose opinions I respect a lot, cool to see it being promoted on TL too.
[url="http://5by5.tv"]5by5[/url] podcasts have a podcast dedicated to Paleo called [url="http://5by5.tv/paleo"]Latest in Paleo[/url] if podcasts are your thing then it might be of interest. I have never actually listened to it, just seen the updates about it mixed in with updates from other podcasts I do listen to from the network.
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| eshlow United States. September 22 2011 10:59. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On September 22 2011 10:52 Bockit wrote:Paleo seems to be one of those things I'm seeing crop up everywhere from people whose opinions I respect a lot, cool to see it being promoted on TL too. 5by5 podcasts have a podcast dedicated to Paleo called Latest in Paleo if podcasts are your thing then it might be of interest. I have never actually listened to it, just seen the updates about it mixed in with updates from other podcasts I do listen to from the network. Aside: Just found this forum exists!
Added!
Also, added Robb Wolf's podcasts to the bottom as ewll.Last edit: 2011-09-22 11:00:27 |
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| eshlow United States. September 24 2011 05:31. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
Do you also think I should add some sleep stuff to this thread?
Not technically Paleo, but in reality is is part of Paleo for decreasing inflammation, insulin resistance, etc. |
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| emperorchampion Canada. September 24 2011 06:08. Posts 4122 | Profile Blog # |
On September 24 2011 05:31 eshlow wrote:
Do you also think I should add some sleep stuff to this thread?
Not technically Paleo, but in reality is is part of Paleo for decreasing inflammation, insulin resistance, etc.
I think the sleep stuff should be put in general nutrition instead maybe, as one would expect someone to read that first/in conjunction with the Paleo thread. |
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| Advocado Denmark. September 24 2011 23:09. Posts 844 | Profile Blog # |
| Doesn't it make sense to add sleep stuff to the recovery thread or something? |
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| eshlow United States. September 24 2011 23:52. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On September 24 2011 23:09 Advocado wrote:
Doesn't it make sense to add sleep stuff to the recovery thread or something?
I did, but he didn't add it to the OP. |
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| JohnnyBanana Canada. September 26 2011 04:40. Posts 493 | Profile # |
Well eshlow, I don't know where I read your recommendation to eat sweet potatoes, but thanks for that.
I've eaten sweet potatoes before, and I've liked them a lot, but I never knew they were such a healthy food.
Ever since I've been eating paleo, I've cut out a lot of juices and other sweet things...but man these sweet potatoes are my savior.
I came across this on Wikipedia: "In 1992, the Center for Science in the Public Interest compared the nutritional value of sweet potatoes to other vegetables. Considering fiber content, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitamins A and C, iron, and calcium, the sweet potato ranked highest in nutritional value. According to these criteria, sweet potatoes earned 184 points, 100 points over the next on the list, the common potato."
I understand there's a lot of complex carbs in sweet potatoes which is a good thing. I've started eating like 1-2 sweet potatoes everyday, and I might increase it more because it's really the easiest and most tasty vegetable ever. Can I 'overload' on carbs from these sweet potatoes though? I can eat 3-4 baked sweet potatoes everyday no problem because they're just that good. Last edit: 2011-09-26 05:06:45 |
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| Ingenol United States. September 26 2011 05:31. Posts 1228 | Profile Blog # |
On September 26 2011 04:40 JohnnyBanana wrote:
Well eshlow, I don't know where I read your recommendation to eat sweet potatoes, but thanks for that.
I've eaten sweet potatoes before, and I've liked them a lot, but I never knew they were such a healthy food.
Ever since I've been eating paleo, I've cut out a lot of juices and other sweet things...but man these sweet potatoes are my savior.
I came across this on Wikipedia: "In 1992, the Center for Science in the Public Interest compared the nutritional value of sweet potatoes to other vegetables. Considering fiber content, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitamins A and C, iron, and calcium, the sweet potato ranked highest in nutritional value. According to these criteria, sweet potatoes earned 184 points, 100 points over the next on the list, the common potato."
I understand there's a lot of complex carbs in sweet potatoes which is a good thing. I've started eating like 1-2 sweet potatoes everyday, and I might increase it more because it's really the easiest and most tasty vegetable ever. Can I 'overload' on carbs from these sweet potatoes though? I can eat 3-4 baked sweet potatoes everyday no problem because they're just that good.
Yes, you can. They do have some fructose and as they are a starch will elicit an insulin response. In a healthy person, this is no problem, but obviously as you become obese and start to have insulin insensitivity issues and problems with eating higher levels of carbs, it can become one.
The reason sweet potatoes are an acceptable carb source on a paleo-style diet is because unlike wheat and other grains they aren't inflammatory. |
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| eshlow United States. September 26 2011 08:47. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
As long as you eat carbs with your protein and fats you should be fine.
Not that the Kitavan's who eat potatoes as their starch for 70% carbs have heart disease either... but I tend to like keeping things balanced if possible. |
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 jbee September 27 2011 08:02. Posts 35 | Profile # |
| What is healthy is so arbitrary nowadays. Grains are bad for you now? Healthy eating is a never-ending vortex that sucks up all your time. At the start of this thread I was going to follow it, but now I am going to quit while I'm ahead. |
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| AoN.DimSum United States. September 27 2011 09:14. Posts 2806 | Profile Blog # |
On September 27 2011 08:02 jbee wrote:
What is healthy is so arbitrary nowadays. Grains are bad for you now? Healthy eating is a never-ending vortex that sucks up all your time. At the start of this thread I was going to follow it, but now I am going to quit while I'm ahead.
It's not that hard, just eat real food. |
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| eshlow United States. September 27 2011 09:33. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On September 27 2011 08:02 jbee wrote:
What is healthy is so arbitrary nowadays. Grains are bad for you now? Healthy eating is a never-ending vortex that sucks up all your time. At the start of this thread I was going to follow it, but now I am going to quit while I'm ahead.
What is healthy isn't that arbitrary.
The nutrition "industry" is going through the same phase that the cigarette industry went through back in the 80s and 90s. They paid a lot of money to companies to do studies that showed cigs didn't cause cancer. Advertising/commercials to get the public to believe what they wanted them to believe. The same thing is going on with food lobbyists touting grains, processed foods, etc.
Why do you think there are so many myths perpetuated in training/nutrition/etc.? The public believes what "experts" tell them.
I provided recent studies which are turning the tide which prove my point. Regardless, it's your health so shrug.Last edit: 2011-09-27 09:36:23 |
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| jbee September 27 2011 11:08. Posts 35 | Profile # |
| True, but it's a lil different than the cig example. He is saying don't trust the governments word and is relying on the latest studies as proof. Most health studies are, like you said, junk science. Since we can't even determine if the methodology is correct, we must arbitrarily choose which one to follow. Because of the amount of work and high level of inaccuracy I'll just keep with my normal diet and avoid the obvious bad things. |
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| Dalguno United States. September 27 2011 13:59. Posts 2298 | Profile Blog # |
| Heading to Vegas on Wednesday for a Chevelle concert. They don't have much paleo food down there to eat, so it always puts me in a pickle. I probably can go grocery shopping, but I won't have much to spend. Any tips on cheap stuff to buy? I'm thinking lots of sweet potatoes and maybe chicken breasts, perhaps protein bars if I can't find anything else. |
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| rfoster United States. September 27 2011 18:40. Posts 984 | Profile # |
On September 27 2011 13:59 Dalguno wrote:
Heading to Vegas on Wednesday for a Chevelle concert. They don't have much paleo food down there to eat, so it always puts me in a pickle. I probably can go grocery shopping, but I won't have much to spend. Any tips on cheap stuff to buy? I'm thinking lots of sweet potatoes and maybe chicken breasts, perhaps protein bars if I can't find anything else.
Chicken breast is cheap for a lot of food, I wouldnt get protein bars if you are tight on cash. One good bargain you can buy is if you buy the 60 pack of eggs from the store. Its like a week or two worth of food for so little money |
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| eshlow United States. September 27 2011 22:21. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On September 27 2011 13:59 Dalguno wrote:
Heading to Vegas on Wednesday for a Chevelle concert. They don't have much paleo food down there to eat, so it always puts me in a pickle. I probably can go grocery shopping, but I won't have much to spend. Any tips on cheap stuff to buy? I'm thinking lots of sweet potatoes and maybe chicken breasts, perhaps protein bars if I can't find anything else.
I believe there's a link in the OP on cheap food shopping. Don't remember what is in it exactly but it may be a good idea to check out |
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| RosaParksStoleMySeat Japan. September 27 2011 22:39. Posts 914 | Profile # |
I'm thinking about changing my diet up right now. My current status is I'm attempting to gradually (over the next 3-4 months) put on an additional 10kg of quality mass. At the current moment, I'm semi-paleo. I eat oats, rice, and cereals. I want to cut out the cereals I think (at the very least), and stick to a more fat/protein based diet. I was thinking about doing something like this:
Breakfast: 8 eggs
Lunch: 1 cup of oatmeal (measured dry; of course I cook the stuff) with blueberries
Post-workout: One large chicken breast with skin, 1 liter of milk, 2 scoops of whey
Dinner: 200 grams of beef shortribs (900 calories in this; can't get much more bang for your buck than that), 1/2 cup of rice
This would be a pretty cheap way to get in 4,000 calories a day for me. I think I want to remove the cereal because it can't be doing good for my stomach (which hasn't been agreeing with me lately), but still want to keep my calories high. My macronutrients would be 235 grams of fat (52% of total cals), 290 grams of protein (29% of total cals), and 195 grams of carbs (19% total cals).
Does this look like a solid eating plan? I know, not 100% hardcore paleo, but I think paleo enough.
Edit: I edited the veggies out for ease. I'll eat some spinach or something with my dinner too.Last edit: 2011-09-27 22:40:07 |
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| eshlow United States. September 27 2011 23:32. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
Looks fine to me.  |
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| Cambium Japan. September 28 2011 00:37. Posts 15621 | Profile Blog # |
On September 27 2011 22:39 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I'm thinking about changing my diet up right now. My current status is I'm attempting to gradually (over the next 3-4 months) put on an additional 10kg of quality mass. At the current moment, I'm semi-paleo. I eat oats, rice, and cereals. I want to cut out the cereals I think (at the very least), and stick to a more fat/protein based diet. I was thinking about doing something like this:
Breakfast: 8 eggs
Lunch: 1 cup of oatmeal (measured dry; of course I cook the stuff) with blueberries
Post-workout: One large chicken breast with skin, 1 liter of milk, 2 scoops of whey
Dinner: 200 grams of beef shortribs (900 calories in this; can't get much more bang for your buck than that), 1/2 cup of rice
This would be a pretty cheap way to get in 4,000 calories a day for me. I think I want to remove the cereal because it can't be doing good for my stomach (which hasn't been agreeing with me lately), but still want to keep my calories high. My macronutrients would be 235 grams of fat (52% of total cals), 290 grams of protein (29% of total cals), and 195 grams of carbs (19% total cals).
Does this look like a solid eating plan? I know, not 100% hardcore paleo, but I think paleo enough.
Edit: I edited the veggies out for ease. I'll eat some spinach or something with my dinner too.
how are you going to cook your eight eggs in the morning?
Also, since you live in Japan, why not take advantage of their relatively cheap fish? Hotate and salmon are generally cheaper than others.Last edit: 2011-09-28 00:43:35 |
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