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| kef November 06 2011 07:00. Posts 282 | Profile # |
This is awesome. I've recently found out I'm gluten intolerant (and not so recently lactose intolerant) so I've been basically following this kind of diet, with potatoes for carbs and occasionally rice for carbs. One thing I've noticed just from avoiding fast food like the plague is that I prefer a lot less salt, pepper, and sugar on my foods than my friends and family. Now I actually prefer the more flavorful fruits like oranges, apples, etc for dessert over candy or cake/cookies.
I do however eat (gluten free) corn flakes for breakfast just about every day just because it's a lot quicker than making eggs every day. |
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| eshlow United States. November 06 2011 11:14. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
lol, don't feed the troll.
I already wrote in the OP analysis that hunter gather populations don't usually dip below about 20% carbohydrates and thus are not actually on low carbohydrate diets. Typical hunter gatherer carbohydrate sources ranged from about 22-40% of total energy intake. On a 2,000 calorie diet, this is 440 - 800 calories from carbs which is 110-200g of carbs a day.
It's even noted in populations where if they didn't have any type of starch sources such as potatoes that even if they had meats they would say they were starving.
The only time low carbohydates are recommended is if a person has metabolic issues or cardiovascular disease or neurodegenerative disorders where low carbohydrate actually improves metabolism to reverse some of these disease processes.Last edit: 2011-11-06 11:18:09 |
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| AsnSensation Germany. November 08 2011 03:18. Posts 6255 | Profile # |
Hey Guys I've been interested in the paleo lifestyle for quite a long time. Im 170cm and 84 kg but actually quite fit, like I jog 1 hour no problem and squat 100kg but I really want to lose some weight because there's lots of body fat which prevents me from getting lean. The problem has been my eating habits, because I somehow never get a real consistency in my diet. Last year I was already down to 70 kg but during my lazy year I got it all back and recently ( 3-4) month I really started working out again ( 6 times a week) and decided to take a healthier approach in my diet and lifestyle because getting to 70 kg last year was a lot of fasting.
One of the more proficient sources concerning the paleo diet seems to be rob wolf. I bought his ebook on amazon yesterday for like 8 € and started reading a bit and it's really interesting. Has anyone purchased his 30 day transformation thingy for 25$ and knows if it's worth it?
And I might be able to abandon bread and pasta/noodles but since Im asian there's no way I can completly avoid (white) rice ^^ because we're having it at least 3-4 times a week. Is that actually a huge problem? Im just eating a small bowl for dinner then anyway.
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| Orpheos United States. November 08 2011 03:37. Posts 1337 | Profile # |
On November 08 2011 03:18 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey Guys I've been interested in the paleo lifestyle for quite a long time. Im 170cm and 84 kg but actually quite fit, like I jog 1 hour no problem and squat 100kg but I really want to lose some weight because there's lots of body fat which prevents me from getting lean. The problem has been my eating habits, because I somehow never get a real consistency in my diet. Last year I was already down to 70 kg but during my lazy year I got it all back and recently ( 3-4) month I really started working out again ( 6 times a week) and decided to take a healthier approach in my diet and lifestyle because getting to 70 kg last year was a lot of fasting.
One of the more proficient sources concerning the paleo diet seems to be rob wolf. I bought his ebook on amazon yesterday for like 8 € and started reading a bit and it's really interesting. Has anyone purchased his 30 day transformation thingy for 25$ and knows if it's worth it?
And I might be able to abandon bread and pasta/noodles but since Im asian there's no way I can completly avoid (white) rice ^^ because we're having it at least 3-4 times a week. Is that actually a huge problem? Im just eating a small bowl for dinner then anyway.
thx in advance
I am asian too and I ate a bowl of rice almost every day for most of my life. doesnt mean you have to keep doing it. just cook more vegetables and also add less soy sauce or other sauce to your food so you dont need something like rice to soak it up. |
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| Cambium Japan. November 21 2011 01:54. Posts 15621 | Profile Blog # |
On November 08 2011 03:18 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey Guys I've been interested in the paleo lifestyle for quite a long time. Im 170cm and 84 kg but actually quite fit, like I jog 1 hour no problem and squat 100kg but I really want to lose some weight because there's lots of body fat which prevents me from getting lean. The problem has been my eating habits, because I somehow never get a real consistency in my diet. Last year I was already down to 70 kg but during my lazy year I got it all back and recently ( 3-4) month I really started working out again ( 6 times a week) and decided to take a healthier approach in my diet and lifestyle because getting to 70 kg last year was a lot of fasting.
One of the more proficient sources concerning the paleo diet seems to be rob wolf. I bought his ebook on amazon yesterday for like 8 € and started reading a bit and it's really interesting. Has anyone purchased his 30 day transformation thingy for 25$ and knows if it's worth it?
And I might be able to abandon bread and pasta/noodles but since Im asian there's no way I can completly avoid (white) rice ^^ because we're having it at least 3-4 times a week. Is that actually a huge problem? Im just eating a small bowl for dinner then anyway.
thx in advance
are you living by yourself or with your family?
I never eat grains/rice when I'm living by myself. When I was living with my family, I occasionally, symbolically, eat a little bit of rice to appease my parents.
An added bonus to not eating rice is that, you will learn to put less salt/soy sauce into your dishes |
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| FFGenerations November 28 2011 01:20. Posts 2626 | Profile Blog # |
so you cut up colliflower into little pieces, then stick it in the micro for an indeterminate amount of time, and it comes out nice?
i am still confused about cooking oil. i use extra virgin (in a darkened bottle) but will happily switch to anything else like butter, but i cant tell if butter in my store is any good... there are lots here http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/search/default.aspx?searchBox=butter&N=4294796066 and im using this one atm coz of the fancy packaging and not because i have any clue (also it was on offer)
there is a coconut oil bottle in my store but the packaging doesnt say much and i think i read on the wiki that if its "processed" coconut oil then its shit. this bottle is SUPER cheap so i wouldnt hold my breath about it (tho no1 uses it in this country probably so maaaaaybe thats why its cheap).
okay i found it online http://www.ktc-edibles.co.uk/shop.php?sec=prod&prod=6
it says 100% pure coconut oil on it.....idk if this means its not processed or not
what else... oh yeah what are examples of high-fat foods that i can buy ? i can only think of milk/dairy and minced beef (ugh). the "real" meat i buy always has fat trimmed off (chicken, turkey, loin steaks)
my diet atm is around..
6 scrambled eggs + bacon + chopped tinned tomato
6 scrambled eggs + chopped tinned tomato
scrambled egg + cheese
green apples (so expensive ffs)
milk (gonna stop this or cut down a lot coz i think its fuckin with me)
baked potato (microwaved, skin removed after) + tinned fish (pilchards, tuna, mackeral, salmon) + butter
baked potato (microwaved, skin removed after) + tinned fish (pilchards, tuna, mackeral, salmon) + butter + sweetcorn
pork loin / turkey breast / chicken breast + tinned carrots OR hmm not sure been putting them in shitty burger buns with ketchup lately 
extra virgin olive oil (will switch to butter or that coconut oil if recommended)
water
energy drink once a week or so instead of weed/alcohol
chopped lettuce + chopped fresh tomatoes + pre-grated cheese (bad i know) + french dressing
as you can see my food variety is really shit. i bought brussel sprouts coz they were cheap but burnt them in the microwave
im kinda thinking about making a thread called "20-Minute Meals in a Simple Format" where we can all contribute and its easy to read.....Last edit: 2011-11-28 01:46:54 |
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| Cambium Japan. November 28 2011 01:50. Posts 15621 | Profile Blog # |
Looks pretty decent, I would:
- Replace potatoes with sweet potatoes
- Eat more fresh veggies like broccoli, spinach and asparagus
Stirfrying is really easy, you basically chop up the proteins and veggies, and toss it into a pan. |
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| FFGenerations November 28 2011 02:18. Posts 2626 | Profile Blog # |
ooh yeah i bought a sweet potato (theyre big!) but keep fucking forgetting its up there hiding next to the others
spinach is really nice i had it the other day so i should get that yeah
asparagus i will try i dont think ive ever had it
broccoli i will try again lol
coliflower i will try coz i like it
i just gotta keep an eye on how much these things cost (i cant buy peppers really coz theyre fuckin expensive)
is it possible to cut up things like colliflower, brocolli, spinage and asparagus when you cut up your chicken breast and then just lump them all into a pan and fry them together (or in a similar way)? i thought you had to boil veg like that
i just used that coconut oil i have to make fried chips (potato) + fried onion. holy shit fried chips + onion is nice, havent done it before for myself :D i thought the potato was gonna all lump together and get stuck to each other but it ended up well. problem is getting the solid coconut oil out of the glass bottle, i ran it under a boiling hot tap several times and got it to trickle out a bit (without shattering into my eyes). cant be much nutrition in this , its all a bit Crispy lolLast edit: 2011-11-28 02:22:47 |
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| Cambium Japan. November 28 2011 02:28. Posts 15621 | Profile Blog # |
yes you can
Depending on how you like your broccoli (I like them completely cooked) broccoli might take a while. Boiling them ahead of time before stir-frying is certainly an option, but I prefer to cook it in a pan. Slow cooked broccoli is amazing. it's basically just bacon, garlic and broccoli cooked over low-med heat for 40 minutes.
Asparagus can be stir-fried fairly easily, all you have to do is slice them before tossing them into the pan, goes well with pork or sausages.
Spinach takes almost no time to cook. |
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| FFGenerations November 28 2011 02:31. Posts 2626 | Profile Blog # |
this is cool man, uv given me hope lol
edit: ew i definately need to get some sweet potato recipes lol, its pretty fucking disgustingLast edit: 2011-11-28 06:52:37 |
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 SonuvBob Administrator November 28 2011 07:41. | Profile Blog # |
On November 28 2011 01:20 FFGenerations wrote:
what else... oh yeah what are examples of high-fat foods that i can buy ? i can only think of milk/dairy and minced beef (ugh). the "real" meat i buy always has fat trimmed off (chicken, turkey, loin steaks)
Avocados. If you don't like the flavor, try adding a bit of salt. (They take forever to ripen when it's cold though =/)
Kerrygold Pure Irish Butter is amazing, you can get it at Trader Joe's if there's one in your area. Put it on veggies, in scambled eggs (like this, minus the extra stuff), etc. Not strictly paleo, but should be fine unless you're super sensitive to dairy.
Use plenty of olive oil on salads (anyone have brand recommendations?)
Salmon is good and fatty, kinda expensive though.
For veggies, I just buy big ass bags of frozen stuff and steam a big batch at a time. For stir fries I just steam them a bit less, then add them in near the end.
im kinda thinking about making a thread called "20-Minute Meals in a Simple Format" where we can all contribute and its easy to read.....
Yeah I'd like to see a Paleo/Primal-specific quick recipe thread.
On November 28 2011 02:31 FFGenerations wrote:
edit: ew i definately need to get some sweet potato recipes lol, its pretty fucking disgusting
Wash em, poke holes in em, and stick em in the oven (on foil, it'll be messy) @ 375ish for 60-75 minutes, depending on the size, then eat with butter. Very tasty.
On November 28 2011 02:28 Cambium wrote:
Slow cooked broccoli is amazing. it's basically just bacon, garlic and broccoli cooked over low-med heat for 40 minutes.
I am intrigued. How much of each do you use? |
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| NeedsmoreCELLTECH Netherlands. November 28 2011 07:53. Posts 609 | Profile Blog # |
Just a random paleo tip: If you're reasonably good with people, you might be able to ask a restaurant owner to order a little extra and pay for that. Irish Angus grass fed beef for 6.50/kilo, yes please!
You can get some really great stuff/leftovers for an absolute steal. |
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| FFGenerations November 28 2011 08:10. Posts 2626 | Profile Blog # |
On November 28 2011 07:41 SonuvBob wrote:
niiiiiice video
certainly not what i was doing with my eggs LOL |
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| eshlow United States. November 28 2011 10:04. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
Kerry Gold butter is the best butter ever...
Also, coconut is a great high fat food |
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| decafchicken United States. November 28 2011 10:25. Posts 15150 | Profile Blog # |
Unable to use my oven because my roommates turned on the oven after we hid our coffee maker in there during one of our parties T_T Back to nuking my sweet potatoes.
Is shredding potatoes in butter/beef grease to make hashbrowns a healthy way to eat them? |
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| AoN.DimSum United States. November 28 2011 12:11. Posts 2806 | Profile Blog # | |
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| eshlow United States. November 28 2011 13:25. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
On November 28 2011 10:25 decafchicken wrote:
Unable to use my oven because my roommates turned on the oven after we hid our coffee maker in there during one of our parties T_T Back to nuking my sweet potatoes.
Is shredding potatoes in butter/beef grease to make hashbrowns a healthy way to eat them?
Sounds fine to me... haha. |
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| purecarnagge November 29 2011 04:51. Posts 708 | Profile # |
so im thinking
breakfast eggs plus apple (apple is for on the go in the car eating) water
lunch - salad (iceberg lettuce) chicken/ham/carrots added in. water
dinner- chicken breast, broccli, carrots. milk (is chocolate milk okay post workout?)
I need stuff thats simply to eat, and easy to get use to. I'm a picky eater this is going out on a huge limb for me.
This post is a reflection of I need to WTF change my life moment.Last edit: 2011-11-29 04:52:09 |
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| eshlow United States. November 29 2011 06:39. Posts 5013 | Profile # |
| Looks fine to me. Although IMO you need more protein. |
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