| Erandorr October 01 2011 05:28. Posts 1647 | Profile Blog # |
On October 01 2011 05:00 Curu wrote:
tl;dr: Forumite is full of shit and should be lynched.
What do you think about Jackal right now, then? |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:29. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| Did you just not read the post? |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:29. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| No you clearly didn't. Go read the post and I'll talk to you. |
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| Erandorr October 01 2011 05:30. Posts 1647 | Profile Blog # |
| You say he needs to be looked at but from where I am standing he probably is the better lynch target, because Forumite has proven that he can play like a complete Idiot whereas Jackal is good enough to be judged harsher for his behavior from my point of view |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:31. Posts 2759 | Profile # | |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:32. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| Forumite has done scummy things. Jackal is up there mostly from Palmar scum meta. |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:35. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| But in any case Incog might have to go before either of them. |
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| Mig United States. October 01 2011 05:36. Posts 3529 | Profile Blog # |
| I am very very uncertain about jackal or forumite being scum. There are many things about forumite's play that fall directly in line with bad town and not scum. |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:40. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| Forumite would have to be really, really, really, really bad Town then. But I've always done a poor job of distinguishing people playing like retards from scum. |
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| Jackal58 United States. October 01 2011 05:41. Posts 4264 | Profile # | |
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| wherebugsgo United States. October 01 2011 05:50. Posts 7930 | Profile Blog # |
Keep cherry picking my meta Jackal. I appeared "scummy" to two towns who were dumb, one in which I trolled but actually caught scum day 1 on shitty logic, and the other in which I made one statement that didn't make sense in light of all of the rest of my behavior (i.e. I was bandwagoned for a "scum slip" that was completely intentional in order to identify those who couldn't reason and would use that as a reason to dismiss my behavior all game)
You've proven to us all that you completely disregard behavioral analysis whenever something arbitrarily strikes your fancy. You did it in SMG when you relied on your role too much and you couldn't wrap your head around your results on me and Palmar returning "same" because you didn't reason correctly and relied too much one one piece of evidence, your parity check. You did it in LoTR when you assumed I was third party solely because I asked for the ring (like Drazerk and Dr. H did) You did it in MLP when you automatically assumed tntked was a townie because he gambited and sent you a piece "when in danger of dying" (when in reality if you had actually took a moment to reason you would've realized he was in no danger of dying and his claim wasn't at all believable)
And finally, you're doing it now. You make the assumption that I'm scum because I'm displaying town tells and making sense. Yeah, that really makes sense, Jackal.
Clearly you wouldn't remember XLIV or Resurrection when I played straight townie, no trolling, no traps, right?
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| Erandorr October 01 2011 05:54. Posts 1647 | Profile Blog # |
Okay, I actually thought about why I am so unsure about forumite.
First I would like to add something to your analysis that really stood out to me when looking over his posts right now, which was this :
On September 30 2011 07:00 Forumite wrote:
=)
Scumhunters supreme.
He disliked the lynch for a very long time and then made it look like he actually contributed and that is either incredibly arrogant / stupid , or just the way for a scum player to fit in.
Now the reason I am unsure about him is the experience I had with him in other games. If you look at cosmic horror, there he was 3rd party and actually managed to survive the game and win. All he did was keep his head low provide carefull analysis and survive until the end. Now granted that playing 3rd party and scum are different things, but the basic mentality is still there.
Now do you remember how we said that he actually helped us seal the deal as scum in MLP? He just played plain bad got roleblocks and the like on himself.
I just do not see that he would put himself out there like that and do his retarded fakeshot at WBG as scum. He feels like someone to be watched, but not like a solid lynch for day 2 |
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| Curu Canada. October 01 2011 05:57. Posts 2759 | Profile # |
| Looks his like play in Werewolves though where he soft defended his scumbuddy that I lynched day 1. |
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| prplhz Denmark. October 01 2011 06:35. Posts 3919 | Profile Blog # |
a little german bird has told me that vigs are aiming for me
because apparently i'm scummy in pm land
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i don't know about this but i think that this is pretty weird since i provided original analysis on palmar and voted and i've been on incognito's back all game and he appears to be kinda scummy right now according to a bunch of people. like i don't wanna die and we don't need vigs doing something crazy awesome, especially not if it just turns out to be crazy. we lynched scum on day1, it's 16-3 to town and we've got awesome reads on a bunch of people. don't be an idiot unless you feel you absolutely have to.
also supersoft, who the hell thinks i'm scummy enough to warrant a vig hit? can't they post a case or something like everybody else, i don't think anybody has complained too much about me except incognito and what he managed to muster was pretty shabby. |
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| Forumite Sweden. October 01 2011 06:41. Posts 2931 | Profile # |
On October 01 2011 03:35 Curu wrote:
Does anyone know if Forumite is mute?
Can´t answer that, boss. I´ll tell you tomorrow. |
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| prplhz Denmark. October 01 2011 06:43. Posts 3919 | Profile Blog # |
@forumite
i'm looking very much forward to that  tomorrow is in 20 mins, make sure to be here |
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| Incognito United States. October 01 2011 06:52. Posts 2058 | Profile # |
prplhz does not have a pro-town agenda. If you look at all his posts, you will see that besides spreading doubt and fueling irrelevant discussions, prplhz never gives an indication that he is trying to figure stuff out. While he can be categorized as "active", he is just sticking to the sidelines and prodding without actually contributing and does not have a town agenda. This is a highly likely indicator that he is scum.
However, the most important piece of evidence is this post:
On September 30 2011 20:38 prplhz wrote:
~words words words~
i'm posting this now 'cause apparently scum (incog) wants me dead so much that they've resorted to asking random mutes if they want to kill me. i don't see why 'cause i wasn't instrumental in palmar's demise at all.
The bolded part is clearly sarcasm. What prplhz is claiming here is that he was in fact instrumental in Palmar's demise. Is this claim true?
Absolutely not. He does vote for Palmar, who flips red, but he does not contribute to the lynch to the extent he claims. Notice the timing of his posts.
Early in the game, prplhz says
since palmar is locked down for day1 lynch can we talk about who to lynch day2?
. It is fairly obvious that this is a joke post. Two posts later, he votes NotChezinu. 3 posts after that, he says "Palmar is actually scum this time" with no explanation.
After this, there is a lul in the anti-Palmar rhetoric, and prplhz doesn't give an opinion on Palmar until two hours before the lynch ends, when it is clear that Palmar is going to die. This post is the only post in which prplhz gives a substantial opinion on Palmar, and it comes far too late:
On September 30 2011 05:04 prplhz wrote:Also how Palmar just says "Alright, I'm getting lynched, well goodbye folks". That's kinda scummy you know, they don't tend to say a lot after it's apparent that they're gonna get lynched.
prplhz only votes Palmar after it is clear that Palmar is doomed. It is obvious that prplhz's post was not meant to influence people to vote Palmar, but to justify his vote. prplhz does not push Palmar's lynch at ANY time before this point, and doesn't contribute to the discussion when people are trying to figure out if they want to vote for Curu or Palmar. Look at prplhz's 3 posts before the one I just quoted:
On September 29 2011 20:40 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 20:17 Forumite wrote:
Putting it out there, I´d rather see the lynch being between Palmar and Curu than us lynching one either Jackal or WBG.
so you don't care much who gets lynched, you just want to voice your support of a scenario with two bandwagons that you and your scum buddies can hop on to at leisure?
On September 29 2011 21:40 prplhz wrote:
so who do you think is scummier of the two? are any of them scum at all?
On September 29 2011 21:49 prplhz wrote:
i mean scum would love to see the lynch be decided by who is the scummier of two townies, and not who is actually scum. you're just sitting there saying "oh yea bitches, duke it out and we'll lynch one of you!" and i kinda find that very scummy. very scum.
Is he contributing to the lynch? No. First he underhandedly accuses Forumite by suggesting he doesn't care about the lynch. Then he asks Forumite of his opinion on Palmar/Curu and criticizes Forumite for not trying to figure out if Palmar/Curu are scummy townies or scum, while failing to provide any insight himself. It is obvious that prplhz is not trying to bring clarity to the thread, but is rather trying to stir doubt. Yet after the lynch, he claims (using sarcasm) that he was instrumental in Palmar's lynch. This is clearly not true.
prplhz is trying to claim undeserved credit for Palmar's lynch. There is no reason for a townie to do this. Thus, prplhz is mafia. |
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| Incognito United States. October 01 2011 06:55. Posts 2058 | Profile # |
On October 01 2011 06:35 prplhz wrote:
i don't know about this but i think that this is pretty weird since i provided original analysis on palmar and voted and i've been on incognito's back all game and he appears to be kinda scummy right now according to a bunch of people. like i don't wanna die and we don't need vigs doing something crazy awesome, especially not if it just turns out to be crazy. we lynched scum on day1, it's 16-3 to town and we've got awesome reads on a bunch of people. don't be an idiot unless you feel you absolutely have to.
"What? I'm blending in well, why would you want to kill me?" - prplhz |
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| Kurumi Poland. October 01 2011 07:06. Posts 5137 | Profile Blog # |
Day 2
prplhz the Mute BLU Medic got probed by Soda Popper
Jackal58 the Mute Awkward Cow got slapped by Disciplinary Action
Voting yada yada pms to me yada yada |
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| Mig United States. October 01 2011 07:06. Posts 3529 | Profile Blog # | |
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