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China6278 Posts
EDIT Oct. 9th Loner aquired his visa successfully, so the 2 Chinese representatives at BlizzCon will be Toodming and Loner.
EDIT Sept.28th: Update: Blizzard is in the process of helping the players applying for the visa for 2nd time, former BW-pro Toodming has successfully acquired his visa and Xigua, Uhen and Loner are underway, the players that get visa or finished higher in the qualifier will go to Anaheim next month.
Sources from multiple Chinese esports news sites suggest due to unforeseen (or foreseen) US visa problems, the 2 BlizzCon Invitational Chinese qualifier winners, iG.XiGua and Tyloo.Uhen, will not be able to participate in the BlizzCon Global Battle.Net Invitational on October 21st-22nd at Anaheim, California.
According to a World of Warcraft Arena 3v3 participant, they "get almost everything needed or unneeded ready to the embassy, including past US visit records, but get declined almost instantly." The 2 WoW arena teams and the 2 SC2 players' visa application all get rejected, only the SC2 map maker contest winner made it.
It's yet unknown whether there will be substitutes, or Blizzard will try to negotiate with the US embassy.
Source: sc2.178.com WoW Fansite bbs.ngacn.cc
Edit: Please refrain from bashing both governments or take the topic to a political discussion, let's keep it within esports.
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/facepalm
Really?! VISA comes back to fuck over SC2.
They're almost as good at starcraft as Kespa were back in BW ffs
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Wow, this really sucks Hope they do end up getting it fixed though!
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Maybe the US offcials misread it as programmers instead of progamers? I hope they can make it.
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Sweden33719 Posts
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-
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On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_- Well, I don't think half as many Americans go to China as Chinese people going to America.
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Its entirely silly to deny visas for a 2 day video game tournament. The US is pretty unbelievable sometimes.
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On September 20 2011 22:28 marttorn wrote: /facepalm
Really?! VISA comes back to fuck over SC2.
They're almost as good at starcraft as Kespa were back in BW ffs
I think you're confusing VISA the credit card company with a visa, a document required to enter a country if you are not a citizen of that country.
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Blizzard is a large company so I'm sure they'll be more than influential enough.
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On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_- There were many many cases that people leave China for whatever reasons (tourists, work related,...) and never came back to China. They most likely are afraid of talent bleeding than stupid stuffs like politics and security.
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Blizzard could not workout TB's visa problems so I would not put too much faith into them.
But really, visas are ruining esports
(living in eu gives you tons of advantages in that regard, thank god).
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If Blizzard couldn't help TB when he has visa issues I seriously doubt they can help now * Sighs*
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It's because of the innate US/china situation.
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Post 9/11 it's become very difficult to enter the US from any nation that doesnt have visa exemptions. it's terrible what's happened here.
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On September 20 2011 22:45 jackrandomsx wrote: Post 9/11 it's become very difficult to enter the US from any nation that doesnt have visa exemptions. it's terrible what's happened here.
which is strange because the states needs more money and chinese tourists spends the most
weird, being chinese but with an australian passport, i got my usa visa just fine. i doubt this was anything politically related....but who knows :S
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It could be something as simple as a missing paper or form filled out incorrectly. I hope the players/Blizzard can work with the embassy and get these players here to compete
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On September 20 2011 22:42 ladyumbra wrote: If Blizzard couldn't help TB when he has visa issues I seriously doubt they can help now * Sighs*
Don't quote me verbatim, but I think TB's visa issues extended beyond that of a typical visa denial. His name appeared on the terrorist watch list (by mistake, obviously, unless he's really killing eSports...), and he was detained and interrogated for a long time before he was sent back to England. There's a podcast or forum post out there where he explains the whole ordeal.
That being said, it's sad to hear that these great players can't compete for two days in the United States. Hopefully things get resolved.
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On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-
The reason is very simple. Because US bureaucracy is horrible and way behind the times. That America shoots itself in the foot to deny tourists $$$$ out of the stupid fear of "taking American jobs that no one else wants" is retarded to say the least.
You are correct in that there's no "logical" reason why this should be the case. What? They fear Xigua will take Idra's job as America's BM zerg player and put Idra out of a job? It's ludicrous, but that's actually their fear.
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you have got to be kidding me, sigh -_-
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