[Champion] Olaf - Page 7

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On June 07 2012 16:03 Ryuu314 wrote:

At some point in the game, a farmed, 5-6 item AD carry with lifesteal can 1v1 anything (except maybe another AD carry but then it's dependent on picks and micro) simply because of how offensive items scale much harder than defensive items. Ofc, if the Olaf has an exhaust and you try to fight through the exhaust then yes, you may lose, but kiting through the exhaust duration isn't very hard for most AD carries if you have some form of escape.

EDIT: I didn't mean that an AD carry could "shut down" olaf as in prevent him from taking objectives or whatnot. I was more of responding to what Requizen was askin about what to do with Olaf during teamfights.

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On June 15 2012 07:16 brolaf wrote:
This is simply not true. Bruisers have better base stats, and more powerful kits(as otherwise melee would be useless due to their huge positional disadvantage in teamfights) than ranged carries. From this premise it logically follows that bruisers beat ranged champs(as fights necessarily are in melee range due to mallets unique). And also, offensive ad items do have diminishng returns so ina duel you woulduse more of a mixed set of items just like bruisers do

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On June 15 2012 08:39 gtrsrs wrote:
offensive AD items definitely do not have diminishing returns
AD items work together in that IE is good, and PD is good, but having both is definitely worth more than the sum of the individual pieces. throw in a last whisper and you have 3 items that are not only cost-efficient by themselves, but also get exponentially better as you complete the set

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On June 10 2012 13:17 Requizen wrote:
Man, I can not gank as jungle Olaf to save my life. Even when I can land axes, that slow is not nearly enough to secure a kill. Bleh, having to rely on teammates is suffering.

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On June 24 2012 12:54 Zabad wrote:
Hmm alright going to the expert Olaf players here at TL. How should a lane be played against fiora, because i see some forums saying that olaf should win and some saying that fiora rips apart olaf (this seemingly true for me). What should my plan be from level one pretty much.

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On June 24 2012 15:17 yamato77 wrote:

Don't fight her straight up, she does too much DPS with Riposte + Burst of Speed. Save your Q for when she goes aggressive, after she uses her 2 jumps, you should e-q and disengage. Use W to outsustain her between these small trades and outpush her with Q when necessary. Rush tabi -> frozen heart for plenty of armor/mana/cdr. Go movespeed quints to help you disengage better at early levels. Start boots and you'll be guaranteed to have a movespeed advantage unless she does the exact same build, and even if she does, your slow beats her haste due to how movespeed is calculated.

If the Fiora realizes she can just farm, and does, you can deal with her diving your carry in teamfights by saving Exhaust for her, and building a slow item such as Frozen Mallet so you can peel her effectively. If you shut down her attempts at assassinating your carry, you essentially make her worthless in a teamfight because she lacks anything other than damage. After she blows her cds, it's easy enough to pick her off and engage the rest of her team in a 5v4.

EDIT: The main thing is to not let her get kills and snowball on you. She only really becomes scary if she can burst someone down in a full combo, and if she's not getting lots of gold from kills in lane, it makes it much harder for her to do that. If she plays balls to the wall aggressive, you can ask your jungler to gank for you since she'll be wasting her escapes trying to get to you.

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On June 25 2012 11:53 brolaf wrote:

Really..? I thought jax and darius were the only melee champs that could outtrade an olaf's E. I mean olaf can build armor&life and gp5 like pros do, E and fiora has no answer.

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On June 25 2012 17:01 Alaric wrote:
From experience, Riven and Irelia (at least) ca outtrade Olaf too. Irelia's kinda weak early on but after 2-3 levels in W she can last hit normally and whenever Olaf E her she E him back, activates hiten style and start bashing him until he runs or his E is going to be available again.

Riven, well... is Riven, with bullshit scaling on every auto and AD scaling shield.

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On June 15 2012 19:34 brolaf wrote:

They multiplicate each others bonuses. Their individual bonuses are linear. Which means the relative bonus diminishes after each item of the same type you get. Same with defensive items.
Armor and life multiplicate each others bonuses. Their individual bonuses are linear. Armor/res also multiplicates life steal and shields.
with AD you get as,ad,crit,pen,ls,crit dmg that multiplicate each other.
wih defense you get armor,life,ls. so 3 less stats. which may mean that in a duel the weight is more on the offensive stats, but they too have the same fundamental diminishin dynamics

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On July 03 2012 02:22 BlasiuS wrote:
Has anyone tried building soul shroud on olaf? I've never tried it, but it seems like it would be good since it gives +health and +CDR, probably the 2 best stats for him. And of course it's good for teamfights.

There are of course some other great CDR items, but soul shroud seems like it could be useful if you have an AP-ish jungler and AP-ish support (for example something like maokai jungle/soraka support).

Although most people that want CDR have a build that reaches the cap, so the CDR aura might make some items wasted.

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