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 eshlow   United States. October 10 2011 10:51. Posts 5012
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On October 10 2011 10:13 Earll wrote:

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Although i hate to try to selfdiagnose myself, if I were to guess I would say it really does feel like be some ribs getting stuck slightly out of place. Like it hurts in the sides and the front too somewhat (but most in the back) and is pretty like tied into my breathing\chest expanding also. If i just contact my regular doctor would he be able to point me towards who I should see for this? =p


Yeah, get him to give you a prescription for physical therapy

If you know a good chiro you can go that route too.
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 meatbox   Australia. October 10 2011 15:55. Posts 347
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Last year I tore my hamstring twice and received a severely brushed ankle in pre-season that year (tendons and ligaments hyperextended). this season I only had shin splits that took me out of action for 2-3 weeks
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 eshlow   United States. October 10 2011 21:25. Posts 5012
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On October 10 2011 08:16 drshdwpuppet wrote:

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I wear Newbalance 856s because I overpronate slightly. I do not have flat feet. The pain barely touches the bottom of the ankle. I cant imagine my muscles becoming atrophied as I am fairly active, though I guess it isnt out of the question. I will read the articles though and see what I can do. Thanks <3


Shoe type actually doesn't really help with foot issues.

What running technique do you use? Is there anything that improves the pain or helps?
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 eshlow   United States. October 10 2011 21:25. Posts 5012
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On October 10 2011 15:55 meatbox wrote:
Last year I tore my hamstring twice and received a severely brushed ankle in pre-season that year (tendons and ligaments hyperextended). this season I only had shin splits that took me out of action for 2-3 weeks


Uh, do you want advice or are you just saying that?
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 drshdwpuppet   United States. October 11 2011 01:08. Posts 325
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On October 10 2011 21:25 eshlow wrote:

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Shoe type actually doesn't really help with foot issues.

What running technique do you use? Is there anything that improves the pain or helps?



I run by having the balls of my feet strike first, with the heel barely touching the ground, if at all.

I have tried the whole barefoot running thing, but the area I run in is very rough and towards the middle of my usual run length, it gets quite painful just in terms of surface scratches.
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 eshlow   United States. October 11 2011 02:18. Posts 5012
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On October 11 2011 01:08 drshdwpuppet wrote:

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I run by having the balls of my feet strike first, with the heel barely touching the ground, if at all.

I have tried the whole barefoot running thing, but the area I run in is very rough and towards the middle of my usual run length, it gets quite painful just in terms of surface scratches.


If you look at the pain distributions in the foot article I referenced you should see that tibialis posterior and your peroneals may have some tendonitis.

That would be my best guess based on what you have said so far.
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 Earll   Norway. October 11 2011 20:49. Posts 644
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On October 10 2011 10:51 eshlow wrote:

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Yeah, get him to give you a prescription for physical therapy

If you know a good chiro you can go that route too.


ok so I went to the doctor yesterday(regular doctor) and he just made me take off shirt and felt around the back for a couple of seconds, and then told me i had injuerd it with working out and gave me some pills which are painkillers and also supposed to reduce like.. muscle inflamation or something.

Anyway it is feeling a lot better now.. My main questions are, first of all so this was not the missplaced rib but some sort of muscle tear I guess, so what is the more likely reason for this happening, just overall bad form\strain on the back "over time"? Or one horrible powerclean that just in and of itself caused the injury? Also how long should I wait with working out again, just untill it feels ok/doesnt hurt normally during the day?
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 decafchicken   United States. October 12 2011 00:06. Posts 15139
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Eshlow what does it mean when my ACL is numb and can slight/moderate pain when i apply pressure to the bottom of it?
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 eshlow   United States. October 12 2011 00:27. Posts 5012
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On October 11 2011 20:49 Earll wrote:

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ok so I went to the doctor yesterday(regular doctor) and he just made me take off shirt and felt around the back for a couple of seconds, and then told me i had injuerd it with working out and gave me some pills which are painkillers and also supposed to reduce like.. muscle inflamation or something.

Anyway it is feeling a lot better now.. My main questions are, first of all so this was not the missplaced rib but some sort of muscle tear I guess, so what is the more likely reason for this happening, just overall bad form\strain on the back "over time"? Or one horrible powerclean that just in and of itself caused the injury? Also how long should I wait with working out again, just untill it feels ok/doesnt hurt normally during the day?


That's why I specifically recommended NOT to go to a primary care doctor in the OP. They don't know jack squat about injuries at all and will just dish you out anti-inflams.

Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

If the anti-inflams are helping it's likely a strain that's aggravated though so.... rehab should be pretty simple after it starts to heal.

1. Work on strengthening with isolation work.... rotator cuff work + http://davedraper.com/blog/2009/07/22/shoulder-ytwls-become-lytps/

2. Then phase in compound exercises like barball lifts.

3. Then phase in explosive exercise like power cleans. This should only be done at least a month if not longer until feel ready + another 2 weeks after that.
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 eshlow   United States. October 12 2011 00:28. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 00:06 decafchicken wrote:
Eshlow what does it mean when my ACL is numb and can slight/moderate pain when i apply pressure to the bottom of it?


Your ACL is numb? o_O

There's no ACL tests you can actually do on yourself so I'm not quite sure how you're applying pressure to it.... I tried to do anterior drawer on myself and it was too hard. Same with Lachman's.

Did you have an athletic trainer/PT/doc/etc. check it or something?
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 decafchicken   United States. October 12 2011 00:37. Posts 15139
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On October 12 2011 00:28 eshlow wrote:

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Your ACL is numb? o_O

There's no ACL tests you can actually do on yourself so I'm not quite sure how you're applying pressure to it....

Did you have an athletic trainer/PT/doc/etc. check it or something?

I've had a trainer look at it, he mostly just stretched out the joint. Said it might be a symptom of my entire left side being fucked up (pinched nerve up at neck/shoulder, si joint, previous turf toe and sprained ankle).
Haha yeah..numb is the best way i can describe it. And i think its the acl. could be totally wrong.
Roughly this line:
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Apply pressure...just pushing on the bottom of that line, roughly the middle of the inside of my knee. The pain could just be a bruise from rugby. But yeah if you take my bent knee, roughly the top of the knee cap to the inside of my knee from in between the teardrop muscle of the quad and the knee cap is kinda numb. It varies day to day.
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  zatic   Germany. October 12 2011 01:39. Posts 11703Profile Blog # 
So I have hurt my lower back again. Over three weeks ago, I failed my last squat set. Had a spotter but still I was in a real awkward position at the low point. I probably should have stopped right there, but since it didn't hurt I went on to DL, which I manged to finish. But my back felt terrible after that.
Next day I could barely get into shoes :-(

I haven't don't any lifting since. It began feeling better after about three days. However the next five days were filled with wild activity between the sheets which didn't really help recovery. Then after another week of rest and no physical activity at all I felt pretty much OK again. Still didn't do any lifting, but went paragliding for four days, which involved a lot of carrying gear and chute up the mountain. Lower back pain came slowly back. It really started again though after another 3 days of rest after that. One morning (Saturday) I woke up with the worst lower back pain, pretty much as bad as after the DL workout.

It has slowly been getting better since then again, but I feel in no shape to put any strain on it yet.

Pain is very low on the lower back, basically where I guess the spine meets the hip? I don't know the correct terminology. It's worst when I am pulling my legs towards me (= binding shoes is horror). I feel nothing just sitting or standing straight up, but feel pain if I am arching my back.
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 eshlow   United States. October 12 2011 04:38. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 00:37 decafchicken wrote:

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I've had a trainer look at it, he mostly just stretched out the joint. Said it might be a symptom of my entire left side being fucked up (pinched nerve up at neck/shoulder, si joint, previous turf toe and sprained ankle).
Haha yeah..numb is the best way i can describe it. And i think its the acl. could be totally wrong.
Roughly this line:
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Apply pressure...just pushing on the bottom of that line, roughly the middle of the inside of my knee. The pain could just be a bruise from rugby. But yeah if you take my bent knee, roughly the top of the knee cap to the inside of my knee from in between the teardrop muscle of the quad and the knee cap is kinda numb. It varies day to day.

That's not ACL. If your ACL was injured you'd have atrophy and instability

Do you have any signs of meniscus issues? Locking of the knee when straightening, potential instability, any type of clicking, etc?

Could also be a nerve issue.

Might be a good idea to get it checked by someone if it's still bothering you
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 eshlow   United States. October 12 2011 04:40. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 01:39 zatic wrote:
So I have hurt my lower back again. Over three weeks ago, I failed my last squat set. Had a spotter but still I was in a real awkward position at the low point. I probably should have stopped right there, but since it didn't hurt I went on to DL, which I manged to finish. But my back felt terrible after that.
Next day I could barely get into shoes :-(

I haven't don't any lifting since. It began feeling better after about three days. However the next five days were filled with wild activity between the sheets which didn't really help recovery. Then after another week of rest and no physical activity at all I felt pretty much OK again. Still didn't do any lifting, but went paragliding for four days, which involved a lot of carrying gear and chute up the mountain. Lower back pain came slowly back. It really started again though after another 3 days of rest after that. One morning (Saturday) I woke up with the worst lower back pain, pretty much as bad as after the DL workout.

It has slowly been getting better since then again, but I feel in no shape to put any strain on it yet.

Pain is very low on the lower back, basically where I guess the spine meets the hip? I don't know the correct terminology. It's worst when I am pulling my legs towards me (= binding shoes is horror). I feel nothing just sitting or standing straight up, but feel pain if I am arching my back.


Is the pain near SI, or is it muscular, or is it on/near/in the spine itself?

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/
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 decafchicken   United States. October 12 2011 12:51. Posts 15139
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On October 12 2011 04:38 eshlow wrote:

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That's not ACL. If your ACL was injured you'd have atrophy and instability

Do you have any signs of meniscus issues? Locking of the knee when straightening, potential instability, any type of clicking, etc?

Could also be a nerve issue.

Might be a good idea to get it checked by someone if it's still bothering you


I have clicking in both my knees but never any pain related to it. Seems pretty stable (yay squatting). Maybe nerves then? Meh if i get any pain i'll get it checked out.

Also, is there anything you can do for pinched nerve pain? Just hit my stinger again today for the first time in a year tackling a freshman T_T whole arm went numb now its just dull pain.
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  Silidons   United States. October 12 2011 14:04. Posts 2785Profile Blog # 
ok well i'm not too sure what i have, but my right arm has been going to sleep when in the middle of playing starcraft(and various other positions if i dont move my arm). its in the forearm area, only between the elbow and wrist, but more towards the elbow, on the "underside" of my arm sort of like in this area:
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ive been working out 5 days a week for like 5 yrs and ive been deadlifting pretty hard lately so i think it could have some correlation with my problem

i also think my computer desk (which has a pullout keyboard thing) is a problem because my mouse platform is pretty much even with my arm rest and i have to put my wrist and have it rest on the edge of the table
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 kurrysauce   October 12 2011 14:05. Posts 272
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On October 10 2011 07:53 eshlow wrote:

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Hmmm. What did the previous physio say what he thought was your problem/issue?

If you shorten the muscle by lying down and retracting your scaps does that help at all?

if so, posture may be a significant issue.

Also, to improve your posture focus on lifting the bottom of your rib cage up where your xiphoid to get a "proud chest" and let it rise until you have about 20-30% tension on your abs.

That should get your shoulders and neck to roll back into place without having to focus on those. Also, with the shoulders back in place it should take a lot of tension off of the muscles on the back of your scapula which you seem to be having issues with.

Continue whatever else stretching you have been doing if it's helping. Here's some other stuff that may help if you haven't already doing these:

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He told me that it was my left trap which was causing the pain in my mid back . He said a bunch of other stuff but it was all terms which I couldn't understand :\ . I think I'll start saving money and pay him a couple of visits soon. He is known as one of the best in my area so I guess $50 / half hour is worth it.
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 eshlow   United States. October 13 2011 01:01. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 12:51 decafchicken wrote:

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I have clicking in both my knees but never any pain related to it. Seems pretty stable (yay squatting). Maybe nerves then? Meh if i get any pain i'll get it checked out.

Also, is there anything you can do for pinched nerve pain? Just hit my stinger again today for the first time in a year tackling a freshman T_T whole arm went numb now its just dull pain.


Clicking without pain is fine if you've always had it. Generally speaking.

Do mobility and soft tissue work and see if that helps.

Pinched nerve... Mobility work because the muscles will get tight in that area to protect it from more damage. Ice if there's significant pain/inflammation for the first few days otherwise should be able to use heat unless there's still a problem.
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 eshlow   United States. October 13 2011 01:04. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 14:04 Silidons wrote:
ok well i'm not too sure what i have, but my right arm has been going to sleep when in the middle of playing starcraft(and various other positions if i dont move my arm). its in the forearm area, only between the elbow and wrist, but more towards the elbow, on the "underside" of my arm sort of like in this area:
+ Show Spoiler +

ive been working out 5 days a week for like 5 yrs and ive been deadlifting pretty hard lately so i think it could have some correlation with my problem

i also think my computer desk (which has a pullout keyboard thing) is a problem because my mouse platform is pretty much even with my arm rest and i have to put my wrist and have it rest on the edge of the table


Do A LOT of massage/soft tissue work on the inside of your arm (triceps and biceps area and the side facing you) plus more on your forearm flexors there especially the flexor carpi ulnaris and extensor carpi ulnaris.

also, do some ulnar nerve glides (google this) .

Likely not the workout.

May have to adjust your keyboard position if the armrest is digging into your arm
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 eshlow   United States. October 13 2011 01:05. Posts 5012
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On October 12 2011 14:05 kurrysauce wrote:

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He told me that it was my left trap which was causing the pain in my mid back . He said a bunch of other stuff but it was all terms which I couldn't understand :\ . I think I'll start saving money and pay him a couple of visits soon. He is known as one of the best in my area so I guess $50 / half hour is worth it.



Do any of these aggravate the pain or make it worse?

http://davedraper.com/blog/2009/07/22/shoulder-ytwls-become-lytps/
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