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 thedeadhaji October 13 2011 11:47. Posts 23321 | Profile Blog # |
long story short:
Bench 245.
Right side of bar somehow slips off the pin after racking it.
Bar strikes head, right above eye.
Result: abrasion, bruising, concussion.
Scheduled for a MRI on 10/17 just in case.
Symptoms: fatigue, weakness, lack of focus, headache, reduced motor skills, reduced cognitive ability
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infinity21  Canada. October 13 2011 13:44. Posts 6262 | Profile Blog # |
ouch that sucks.. Hope there's no lasting negative effects  |
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| thedeadhaji October 13 2011 14:02. Posts 23321 | Profile Blog # |
If I become retarded, time to become a hippie imo.
brb, moving down to Santa Cruz  |
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 Sm3agol United States. October 17 2011 23:35. Posts 2005 | Profile Blog # |
I've been having a very annoying and painful problem after running. Here goes.
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
I tried, but it's kind of hard to show in a picture.....it's kind of weird. It's right behind my knee, and kind of vertically extended a couple inches above and below my knee in a straight line almost, with the center being the very back of the knee. It's in between the bone and the outer skin of the back of my knee.
2. What exercises hurt?
Things like climbing stairs really tweak it. Running obviously hurts, and just walking is kind of painful as well. Passively, nothing much I do can make it hurt more. At rest it's just a really dull throb regardless of position.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Ache for sure. When climbing stairs it moves to more of a burn.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
Probably around a 5. Not crippling in any way, but definitely uncomfortable, and i can't run on it.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic I guess. Started as soon as I started upping my mileage past the 5 mile mark(per run). I run, it hurts, so I do nothing for a few days. Pain subsides. A couple days later I run again. Repeat.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Definitely outside the joint. It really feels like a hyper-extension of the knee, but extending the knee causes no additional pain. It kind of feels like a pulled hammy....but behind my knee, lol.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
A little ice and rest.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Running always brings it out, but short runs, or much slower runs cause me no problems.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
None, really. It's a localized pain, and neither my calves or thighs feel tender/tight/swollen/etc.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Light exercise(walking) helps it, I think, and it starts subsiding after a couple of days.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
N/A I would think, unless it's just poor running technique.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
All sports, lol, but none aggrevate the problem really.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I got new shoes a few weeks ago, but I kind of had the problem starting already. |
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| eshlow United States. October 18 2011 08:14. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 13 2011 11:47 thedeadhaji wrote:
long story short:
Bench 245.
Right side of bar somehow slips off the pin after racking it.
Bar strikes head, right above eye.
Result: abrasion, bruising, concussion.
Scheduled for a MRI on 10/17 just in case.
Symptoms: fatigue, weakness, lack of focus, headache, reduced motor skills, reduced cognitive ability
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That sucks haji TT.
Hope you feel better. |
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| eshlow United States. October 18 2011 08:17. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 17 2011 23:35 Sm3agol wrote:I've been having a very annoying and painful problem after running. Here goes. 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.I tried, but it's kind of hard to show in a picture.....it's kind of weird. It's right behind my knee, and kind of vertically extended a couple inches above and below my knee in a straight line almost, with the center being the very back of the knee. It's in between the bone and the outer skin of the back of my knee. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt?
Things like climbing stairs really tweak it. Running obviously hurts, and just walking is kind of painful as well. Passively, nothing much I do can make it hurt more. At rest it's just a really dull throb regardless of position.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Ache for sure. When climbing stairs it moves to more of a burn.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
Probably around a 5. Not crippling in any way, but definitely uncomfortable, and i can't run on it.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic I guess. Started as soon as I started upping my mileage past the 5 mile mark(per run). I run, it hurts, so I do nothing for a few days. Pain subsides. A couple days later I run again. Repeat.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Definitely outside the joint. It really feels like a hyper-extension of the knee, but extending the knee causes no additional pain. It kind of feels like a pulled hammy....but behind my knee, lol.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
A little ice and rest.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Running always brings it out, but short runs, or much slower runs cause me no problems.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
None, really. It's a localized pain, and neither my calves or thighs feel tender/tight/swollen/etc.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Light exercise(walking) helps it, I think, and it starts subsiding after a couple of days.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
N/A I would think, unless it's just poor running technique.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
All sports, lol, but none aggrevate the problem really.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I got new shoes a few weeks ago, but I kind of had the problem starting already.
I would think it's likely a very tight popliteus.
Sit down in a chair and cross your leg:
http://dogonlanguages.org/photos/012_01_sit_chair_one_leg_crossed_JH.jpg
And then try to dig into your popliteus and loosen it up. Google popliteus muscle to accurately get it's location if you're having issues.
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| Sm3agol United States. October 19 2011 00:13. Posts 2005 | Profile Blog # |
On October 18 2011 08:17 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 23:35 Sm3agol wrote:I've been having a very annoying and painful problem after running. Here goes. 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.I tried, but it's kind of hard to show in a picture.....it's kind of weird. It's right behind my knee, and kind of vertically extended a couple inches above and below my knee in a straight line almost, with the center being the very back of the knee. It's in between the bone and the outer skin of the back of my knee. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt?
Things like climbing stairs really tweak it. Running obviously hurts, and just walking is kind of painful as well. Passively, nothing much I do can make it hurt more. At rest it's just a really dull throb regardless of position.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Ache for sure. When climbing stairs it moves to more of a burn.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
Probably around a 5. Not crippling in any way, but definitely uncomfortable, and i can't run on it.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic I guess. Started as soon as I started upping my mileage past the 5 mile mark(per run). I run, it hurts, so I do nothing for a few days. Pain subsides. A couple days later I run again. Repeat.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Definitely outside the joint. It really feels like a hyper-extension of the knee, but extending the knee causes no additional pain. It kind of feels like a pulled hammy....but behind my knee, lol.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
A little ice and rest.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Running always brings it out, but short runs, or much slower runs cause me no problems.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
None, really. It's a localized pain, and neither my calves or thighs feel tender/tight/swollen/etc.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Light exercise(walking) helps it, I think, and it starts subsiding after a couple of days.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
N/A I would think, unless it's just poor running technique.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
All sports, lol, but none aggrevate the problem really.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I got new shoes a few weeks ago, but I kind of had the problem starting already.
I would think it's likely a very tight popliteus. Sit down in a chair and cross your leg: http://dogonlanguages.org/photos/012_01_sit_chair_one_leg_crossed_JH.jpgAnd then try to dig into your popliteus and loosen it up. Google popliteus muscle to accurately get it's location if you're having issues.
Wow, that is exactly it, lol. Now i just need to figure out what I'm doing to keep from stretching/pulling that every time I run. |
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| eshlow United States. October 19 2011 02:35. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 19 2011 00:13 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 08:17 eshlow wrote:
On October 17 2011 23:35 Sm3agol wrote:I've been having a very annoying and painful problem after running. Here goes. 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.I tried, but it's kind of hard to show in a picture.....it's kind of weird. It's right behind my knee, and kind of vertically extended a couple inches above and below my knee in a straight line almost, with the center being the very back of the knee. It's in between the bone and the outer skin of the back of my knee. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt?
Things like climbing stairs really tweak it. Running obviously hurts, and just walking is kind of painful as well. Passively, nothing much I do can make it hurt more. At rest it's just a really dull throb regardless of position.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Ache for sure. When climbing stairs it moves to more of a burn.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
Probably around a 5. Not crippling in any way, but definitely uncomfortable, and i can't run on it.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic I guess. Started as soon as I started upping my mileage past the 5 mile mark(per run). I run, it hurts, so I do nothing for a few days. Pain subsides. A couple days later I run again. Repeat.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Definitely outside the joint. It really feels like a hyper-extension of the knee, but extending the knee causes no additional pain. It kind of feels like a pulled hammy....but behind my knee, lol.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
A little ice and rest.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Running always brings it out, but short runs, or much slower runs cause me no problems.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
None, really. It's a localized pain, and neither my calves or thighs feel tender/tight/swollen/etc.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Light exercise(walking) helps it, I think, and it starts subsiding after a couple of days.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
N/A I would think, unless it's just poor running technique.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
All sports, lol, but none aggrevate the problem really.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I got new shoes a few weeks ago, but I kind of had the problem starting already.
I would think it's likely a very tight popliteus. Sit down in a chair and cross your leg: http://dogonlanguages.org/photos/012_01_sit_chair_one_leg_crossed_JH.jpgAnd then try to dig into your popliteus and loosen it up. Google popliteus muscle to accurately get it's location if you're having issues.
Wow, that is exactly it, lol. Now i just need to figure out what I'm doing to keep from stretching/pulling that every time I run.
Can be a lot of factors.
In most of the people I've seen it's because of fairly tight calves and weak hips, but yeah I can't really eval you.
Those two places would be good to start with + correcting running technique if its poor
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/4 has a bunch of soft tissue work and corrections you can do overall to figure out what is tight and what is not |
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| meatbox Australia. October 19 2011 13:42. Posts 347 | Profile # |
On October 10 2011 21:25 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 15:55 meatbox wrote:
Last year I tore my hamstring twice and received a severely brushed ankle in pre-season that year (tendons and ligaments hyperextended). this season I only had shin splits that took me out of action for 2-3 weeks
Uh, do you want advice or are you just saying that?
If you can provide me an online website where they sell cheap SKINS products it would be much appreciated |
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| thedeadhaji October 22 2011 18:34. Posts 23321 | Profile Blog # |
On October 18 2011 08:14 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 13 2011 11:47 thedeadhaji wrote:
long story short:
Bench 245.
Right side of bar somehow slips off the pin after racking it.
Bar strikes head, right above eye.
Result: abrasion, bruising, concussion.
Scheduled for a MRI on 10/17 just in case.
Symptoms: fatigue, weakness, lack of focus, headache, reduced motor skills, reduced cognitive ability
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That sucks haji TT. Hope you feel better.
MRIs are clean but symptoms persist.
Ugh, probably going to be away from the gym for a month, sux. |
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| vndods United States. October 22 2011 22:31. Posts 3743 | Profile # |
Last edit: 2011-10-22 22:37:11 |
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| eshlow United States. October 22 2011 22:43. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 19 2011 13:42 meatbox wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 21:25 eshlow wrote:
On October 10 2011 15:55 meatbox wrote:
Last year I tore my hamstring twice and received a severely brushed ankle in pre-season that year (tendons and ligaments hyperextended). this season I only had shin splits that took me out of action for 2-3 weeks
Uh, do you want advice or are you just saying that?
If you can provide me an online website where they sell cheap SKINS products it would be much appreciated
Cheap skins products?
On October 22 2011 18:34 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 08:14 eshlow wrote:
On October 13 2011 11:47 thedeadhaji wrote:
long story short:
Bench 245.
Right side of bar somehow slips off the pin after racking it.
Bar strikes head, right above eye.
Result: abrasion, bruising, concussion.
Scheduled for a MRI on 10/17 just in case.
Symptoms: fatigue, weakness, lack of focus, headache, reduced motor skills, reduced cognitive ability
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That sucks haji TT. Hope you feel better.
MRIs are clean but symptoms persist. Ugh, probably going to be away from the gym for a month, sux.
Well, if there were ever a time you can't lift you should at least do something. I shudder at the thought of cardio but you should do some. Last edit: 2011-10-22 22:44:25 |
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| Vitruvian United States. October 23 2011 04:07. Posts 108 | Profile # |
Playing basketball last night, guy's knee smashed into my right quad while I was going up for a layup. Excruciating pain initially, dulled after a few minutes. So I finished the game, and did my lifting as normally as I could. Didn't manage to squat very well, since the pain was distracting; only did two sets of five at 255 rather than my usual 3x5@285. Did my normal OHP 3x5@115, and found I could also deadlift at my normal work weight of 345, of which I did one set of five.
RICE'd injury after getting home, took some aspirin, didn't seem too worrisome.
Severe pain at the site of the injury this morning. Can't fully straighten my knee without unbearable pain, and I'm periodically experiencing what feels like really intense pressure between the muscle belly and the femur. I've been RICE'ing it some more; anything else I can do? Anything I should be concerned about? Estimated time before I can go back to squatting normally? Medical staff where I work says that based on the relatively low forces involved, and the placement of the injury, I don't need to worry about compartment syndrome. The extreme pain and sensation of pressure worry me, though. |
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| eshlow United States. October 23 2011 05:34. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
It depends on how bad it is how long it will take to heal.
Since you have access to a medical staff you should ask them questions because they can check out your injury directly! |
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| emjaytron Australia. October 25 2011 21:55. Posts 538 | Profile # |
I can't think of anything worse for a muscle contusion than squatting straight afterwards. You're still going to be bleeding in the muscle for 24-48 hours - the pressure you're feeling is probably just that. I'm a bit late to the part but hopefully you kept the ice going every now and then for the next couple of days and didn't try and do too much.
eshlow whats your background? physical therapy? Last edit: 2011-10-25 21:57:52 |
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| eshlow United States. October 25 2011 22:56. Posts 5004 | Profile # |
On October 25 2011 21:55 emjaytron wrote:
I can't think of anything worse for a muscle contusion than squatting straight afterwards. You're still going to be bleeding in the muscle for 24-48 hours - the pressure you're feeling is probably just that. I'm a bit late to the part but hopefully you kept the ice going every now and then for the next couple of days and didn't try and do too much.
eshlow whats your background? physical therapy?
Yep |
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| Vitruvian United States. October 26 2011 08:34. Posts 108 | Profile # |
On October 25 2011 21:55 emjaytron wrote:
I can't think of anything worse for a muscle contusion than squatting straight afterwards. You're still going to be bleeding in the muscle for 24-48 hours - the pressure you're feeling is probably just that. I'm a bit late to the part but hopefully you kept the ice going every now and then for the next couple of days and didn't try and do too much.
eshlow whats your background? physical therapy?
Thanks for the input anyways...in hindsight I probably should have just skipped the lifting for that day, but I have guilt issues with missing workouts. That motivational pictures/videos thread really got into my head, haha Leg is healing up nicely; the pain now feels pretty much like a bad case of DOMS, which is manageable to work through. |
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| emjaytron Australia. October 26 2011 16:21. Posts 538 | Profile # |
| There's always other things you can do if injured. Don't feel pressure to 'gut it out' if all you are doing is setting yourself back long term. "no pain no gain" is quite honestly a crock of shit in many situations |
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| Sm3agol United States. October 26 2011 21:33. Posts 2005 | Profile Blog # |
So an update on my previous injury post. I started really watching what I was doing when I ran, and I discovered something on the bottom of my new shoes. On my right shoe(same leg as the tight knee) I have a wierd wear pattern on the very back right. As shown in picture.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qqBxe.jpg)
I've been paying attention to this as I run, and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly how this is happening. :-S |
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| emjaytron Australia. October 26 2011 21:41. Posts 538 | Profile # |
| can you do a single leg squat without wobbling everywhere? even just with your knee to 50-60 degrees or so. might be a good indicator of what your hip control is like |
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