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| Gnax Sweden. September 29 2011 01:49. Posts 490 | Profile # |
| I like how "maximum security facilities" 2k years from now will be easier to break in/out of than they are today. |
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| Quotidian Norway. September 29 2011 03:16. Posts 1670 | Profile # |
In general a pretty mediocre pilot. Horribly generic written-by-committee stuff. The family, which is supposed to be the heart and core of the show actually ruins it. It'd be much more interesting as a kind of Babylon 5 thing that's more centered on the colony and initially one or two main protagonist, and they could fill in all the inter-personal stuff later. I think the pilot just wants to do way too much at the same time. I mean, what's the point of spending all this time on the one child too many thing, the prison break out, etc if it's just thrown out the second they get to terra nova? But for a show about time travelling and dinosaurs, the episode was pretty boring.
Other stuff that struck me: The Aliens reference was sooo cringeworthy.. you can just see the writers cracking themselves up about it: "Don't worry, they mostly hunt at night.." "Mostly?"
The show is like a checklist of elements from other shows/movies. Lost-like scribblings on surfaces for the nerdy part of the audience to decipher? Check!
It's funny and very predictable how the "sixers" are all "ethnic" and braided and stuff. Such a blatant and trite civilization vs nature visual cue.
The show has enough hooks and mysteries in it for me to watch at least a few more episodes. If the show is as predictable as I think it is, the sixers will turn out to be the "good guys" and the Stephen Lang character will have a dark side and will probably end up being an antagonist eventually... though I doubt the show will make it past two seasons.Last edit: 2011-09-29 03:16:51 |
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| Pvvned United States. September 29 2011 03:27. Posts 388 | Profile Blog # |
For such a hyped show, it didn't have a great first showing. I believe it was only third in ratings and even got beat out by 2 Broke Girls..
They shouldn't try to shove so much of their terrible CGI down our throats and instead, focus more on actually telling a good story that will draw people in. |
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TriO United States. September 29 2011 03:42. Posts 178 | Profile # |
On September 29 2011 01:19 iLikeRain wrote: Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 01:12 Chocobo wrote: Oh yeah, can someone explain the probe to me?
The impression I got was "we sent the probe back, we did NOT find it buried on Earth in 2149, that means Terra Nova is an alternate universe where actions do not affect the future Earth". Is this wrong?
Correct. If they threw it back in time and then found it, it would mean that they would actually be in the past. Since they never located the probe, it seems that they're not really in the past, but in a parallel universe.
What i don't get is why did they say "if you control the past, you control the future".
I remember hearing one of the characters saying that they are on a different time stream, indicating that they are on a parallel earth. Shit doesn't make any sense if there are different time streams; Terra Novans would have no effect on the history of our Earth. Last edit: 2011-09-29 03:46:59 |
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| Raavi Denmark. September 29 2011 04:17. Posts 136 | Profile # |
Is the dinosaur names they used in the serie actually real dino species? I thought i would see raptors and T-rex'es :D |
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| Ighox Norway. September 29 2011 05:40. Posts 571 | Profile # |
Really looked forward to Terra Nova but got pretty disappointed, almost identical plot to Outcasts, and reminded me way too much of Lost. Outcasts got canceled, and Lost past the two first seasons was terrible so not having big hopes for this show, I'll probably still watch it because it was semi-entertaining I didn't fall asleep but it just wasn't even close to the sci-fi show I wanted it to be. 
On September 28 2011 23:19 Arthemesia wrote: I don't watch many TV shows besides House on Fox. Do they normally cancel their new TV series quickly if they don't do well?
Usually they cancel the good shows and keep the terrible ones on air forever, but yeah a ton of shows only gets one season.
On September 28 2011 08:58 Szordrin wrote: Maybe the right thread. Is there currently a good scifi show running?
Can't think of anyone other than Sanctuary, Supernatural and Doctor Who.Last edit: 2011-09-29 05:45:10 |
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| ahx Canada. September 29 2011 05:44. Posts 132 | Profile # |
| I decided to check the pilot out. I was kind of bored... the show is like one giant stereotype |
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| Xivsa Ecuador. September 29 2011 05:47. Posts 983 | Profile # |
On September 29 2011 04:17 Raavi wrote: Is the dinosaur names they used in the serie actually real dino species? I thought i would see raptors and T-rex'es :D
Carnotaurus, the big ones that chased the vehicles close to the settlement, was a real dinosaur discovered in the southern cone of South America. And Brachiosaurus, the huge herbivores in paddocks, was featured in Jurassic Park as well. The 'Slashers' that attacked the Sixers and then the kids are a fictional kind of theropod. I believe the show will use some actual species but will also incorporate invented species, like the 'Slashers,' that look familiar to other known kinds. In part this is because paleontologists only know a small fraction of all the dinosaurs that truly existed in the Cretaceous Period, a period that spanned somewhere on the order of 80 million years.Last edit: 2011-09-29 05:48:30 |
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| Wihl Sweden. September 29 2011 06:01. Posts 468 | Profile Blog # |
I just read about the general plot beforehand, never looked at any of the trailers. I feel like this would have been a lot better if they had kept the idea of humans going back in time to another time stream but created a Stargate SG-1 feel instead.
I did watch the entire pilot but I never felt captured by it. Felt like they had a Book of Clichés and they just kept checking all the boxes from cover to cover. I liked the setup and idea but they seem to have dropped the ball. Hopefully it gets better but I doubt it gets beyond season 1.
Also, the really tall dinos looked horrible to me. I expected Jurassic Park scifi but all I got was.. I don't even know.
Disappointed, hoping it improves. Doubt it will.
Oh and one thing that really bothered me. Why did they travel to the ages of dinousaurs equipped with pea shooters? That's just illogical. "Lets fight dinosaurs with weapons that do no damage".Last edit: 2011-09-29 06:04:05 |
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| jinorazi Korea (South). September 29 2011 06:12. Posts 4155 | Profile # |
22nd century weaponsn aren't enough to kill dinosaurs? if i remember correctly, no dinosaur was killed. that sucks.
as for the probe, isn't there a better chance that it'll be lost/destroyed by earth(geographic changes like tectonic plates)? unless that probe had a battery life of 85 million years and uncrushable shell and can send signal out for detection.Last edit: 2011-09-29 06:17:08 |
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| NutCase United Kingdom. September 29 2011 06:36. Posts 51 | Profile # |
This show was terrible in pretty much every way. Won't be surprised if it gets axed after season 1.
After all that time and high production costs, yet the CGI has nothing on shows like Fringe |
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| Retgery Canada. September 29 2011 06:48. Posts 1165 | Profile # |
On September 29 2011 03:42 TriO wrote: Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 01:19 iLikeRain wrote: On September 29 2011 01:12 Chocobo wrote: Oh yeah, can someone explain the probe to me?
The impression I got was "we sent the probe back, we did NOT find it buried on Earth in 2149, that means Terra Nova is an alternate universe where actions do not affect the future Earth". Is this wrong?
Correct. If they threw it back in time and then found it, it would mean that they would actually be in the past. Since they never located the probe, it seems that they're not really in the past, but in a parallel universe.
What i don't get is why did they say "if you control the past, you control the future". I remember hearing one of the characters saying that they are on a different time stream, indicating that they are on a parallel earth. Shit doesn't make any sense if there are different time streams; Terra Novans would have no effect on the history of our Earth.
I might as well jump into this, I like discussing Time travel paradoxes. If they sent the probe back in the year 2180 back 85million years, wouldn't it always be there if it was in the same reality? Someone could of found it in the last 2000 years, it wouldn't just suddenly appear after they sent it back. From my understanding you can't go back in time and change your past, because it's already happened.
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| Doko Argentina. September 29 2011 10:42. Posts 1427 | Profile # |
Don't mind the bad CGI, its actually pretty decent for a tv show that requires so much budget for other things. Don't mind the terrible backstory. (apparently prisons don't check visitors for concealed objects 100 years from now) Don't mind the stupid characters or the stupid fucking things they do such as. OMG LETS MAKE BOOZE 5 kilometers away from the fence that prevents dinos from tearing your guts out. There's bushes just as close where you can hide your stuff.
I hate the fact that apparently you can pierce armor plating with 21 century guns but getting through a dinosaur's skin is impossible with weapons 100 years from now. Also dinos are not scared of automatic weapon gunfire when pretty much every other animal currently alive will run the fuck away. Black girl who's name escapes me runs away with several carnivorous dinos that have been tearing an armored vehicle apart chasing her... yet she escapes with only minor lacerations.
The timeline backstory could be cool. But honestly.... well after behind fed so much garbage for 1h 20 mins lets just say my expectations aren't exactly high. |
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| Quotidian Norway. September 29 2011 15:40. Posts 1670 | Profile # |
On September 29 2011 06:48 Retgery wrote: Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 03:42 TriO wrote: On September 29 2011 01:19 iLikeRain wrote: On September 29 2011 01:12 Chocobo wrote: Oh yeah, can someone explain the probe to me?
The impression I got was "we sent the probe back, we did NOT find it buried on Earth in 2149, that means Terra Nova is an alternate universe where actions do not affect the future Earth". Is this wrong?
Correct. If they threw it back in time and then found it, it would mean that they would actually be in the past. Since they never located the probe, it seems that they're not really in the past, but in a parallel universe.
What i don't get is why did they say "if you control the past, you control the future". I remember hearing one of the characters saying that they are on a different time stream, indicating that they are on a parallel earth. Shit doesn't make any sense if there are different time streams; Terra Novans would have no effect on the history of our Earth.
I might as well jump into this, I like discussing Time travel paradoxes. If they sent the probe back in the year 2180 back 85million years, wouldn't it always be there if it was in the same reality? Someone could of found it in the last 2000 years, it wouldn't just suddenly appear after they sent it back. From my understanding you can't go back in time and change your past, because it's already happened.
I don't get why it's logical that they would find the probe anyway. I think it's unlikely that it wouldn't have been swallowed up by the earth, gotten buried in sediment, been crushed by millions of tons of ice during an ice age, etc. Seems like a really flimsy way of deciding whether or not the portal or whatever leads to an "alternate timeline."
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| Leporello United States. September 29 2011 15:54. Posts 1703 | Profile # |
On September 28 2011 04:33 lizzard_warish wrote: I liked it, seems pretty decent. Not a fan of the teenage kid or his pseudo girlfriend though. Happy that for the first time in...I dont know how long, the main military guy looking out for everyone isnt blatantly evil and Machiavellian.
It's the first episode, and there are already some pretty good clues that he actually is quite Machiavellian (which is somewhat opposite of being "blatantly" evil, more "underhandedly" evil).
As for the rest of the show, I don't like the "alternative universe" approach to sci-fi generally. Because frankly, if you're going to go that far out then the writers already pretty much have carte-blance to pull crap out of their ass straight-time. They can put anything in their show and toss it up to the fact that it's an "alternative universe". A mind-controlling super-intelligent bug species living underground? Sure thing, alternative universe.
The other possibility is that they just went back in time, in our universe (or "time stream" as the show calls it), but that makes for logical-fallacies that are pretty much impossible to explain away. I'm curious enough to watch a few more episodes to see if they can take this anywhere that isn't a complete absurdity. |
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| SocialisT Sweden. September 29 2011 17:47. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On September 29 2011 10:42 Doko wrote: Don't mind the bad CGI, its actually pretty decent for a tv show that requires so much budget for other things. Don't mind the terrible backstory. (apparently prisons don't check visitors for concealed objects 100 years from now) Don't mind the stupid characters or the stupid fucking things they do such as. OMG LETS MAKE BOOZE 5 kilometers away from the fence that prevents dinos from tearing your guts out. There's bushes just as close where you can hide your stuff.
I hate the fact that apparently you can pierce armor plating with 21 century guns but getting through a dinosaur's skin is impossible with weapons 100 years from now. Also dinos are not scared of automatic weapon gunfire when pretty much every other animal currently alive will run the fuck away. Black girl who's name escapes me runs away with several carnivorous dinos that have been tearing an armored vehicle apart chasing her... yet she escapes with only minor lacerations.
The timeline backstory could be cool. But honestly.... well after behind fed so much garbage for 1h 20 mins lets just say my expectations aren't exactly high.
I find the part about bullets not doing any damage being exceptionally unrewarding. |
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| weeA India. September 29 2011 17:58. Posts 427 | Profile # |
| I dint like it at all... I dont think i am am gonna watch more of it |
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| oooo27 September 29 2011 18:09. Posts 284 | Profile # |
I really liked the show, except for the whiny teenage boy who makes me want to change the channel.
Still, Stephen Lang fighting dinosaurs is all i need to keep watching |
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| PeachTea United States. September 29 2011 18:10. Posts 148 | Profile Blog # |
| i thought it was pretty fucking awesome. |
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| soullogik United States. September 29 2011 18:26. Posts 1096 | Profile # |
feels like lost with dinosaurs.
lol.... |
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