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If you still have gripes about Jimbo then it's Greymist/Foolishness. Yes I'm fine being in office if people will have me. Not dying night 1 would be a nice change of pace for me. As usual, hit me up on PMs/skype/AIM/irc/whatever. Posting in the thread is not very cost efficient in terms of time for this game. And gogo Ver at MLG! | ||
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On October 16 2011 10:43 Mig wrote: You have a role that could benefit mafia or town....... LLOOOLOLOLOL that's going into the mafia quiz for sure | ||
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On October 16 2011 10:46 Mig wrote: Chaoser acts like he told me he took dreamflower and I am trying to lynch him for it. He told me his role and it is not overwhelming pro town. I have my doubts about the chaoser lynch which I have said multiple times and I have said it to a lot of people, kita, wbg etc. I have been talking to everyone possible about what is the best lynch. So trying to portray this as mig is trying to kill me after I tell him my role is retarded. How can you even say that? When people were distributing roles into groups at the beginning of the game his role fell into the list that is the most pro town? Why would mafia ever take that role? | ||
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Mig wrote: Ok so if someone takes rockstar/bulletproof etc they must also be town? Wtf clearly mafia and town would want his role. No, but chaoser didn't grab rockstar/bulletproof. This is about the role he took, not any of the others. | ||
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On October 17 2011 08:47 deconduo wrote: Wow I thought I would have a load to read up on when I got back but today has been really quiet. I'm surprised no one has called for a vig shot on Foolishness, he's very obviously scum at this point especially as Node flipped scum. The rest of the people trying to get greymist elected should be checked, especially WBG. Well that made a lot of sense. | ||
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On October 18 2011 12:23 Mig wrote: Right now I lean town on Sand I won't deny I have some suspicions but he has been very open with me on skype and actually helped me scum hunt and regardless there are clear better targets. Right now I really do not like wiggles, meapak or foolish. Foolish your entire goal and all your play day1 was centered around not getting shot. Well now that that has happened maybe you could actually post your opinions and thoughts on people? It really doesn't matter if you survive in the game if you are completely useless constantly. Your support of greymist over a more experienced candidate was also hella shady. If scum were playing optimally the last thing they would want is me or radfield protected, greymist would be a much safer choice for them to push. No, my plan was not centered around getting shot. My plan was centered on getting shit done because I assumed I would be shot. Of any of the candidates proposed so far I'd vote for sandroba, but this isn't news to anyone. But speaking of him, you say that he's been open on skype and helped you scum hunt. Believe it or not there are some people who would be able to vouch that for me too. But that's not what this is about. I'll give you my situation is worse than his because he was active at the beginning of day 1 and was proven to be very involved in the ongoings of the town. However since then he's done zilch in the thread besides respond with witty and snarky comments (he learned from me!!!). Enough about this Greymist crap. That's a sorry excuse to use as gunpowder. I am not the only one who voted for Greymist or agreed that he should be elected, many others expressed the same concerns that I did. The Radfield/sandroba/syllogism/Mig group (hence know as the "Radfield Group" in this post) seemed to easy to be under mafia influence. Greymist showed to me that he had honest intentions for the town and that he was competent enough to use them. And I'm not the only one he did this to. Radfield had honest intentions for the town but I couldn't help but think he was being manipulated by mafia. And I kept telling people that it's very likely there's a mafia in Radfield's group. And everyone I told this to said, "no, I've talked with them all in PM, they all townies". Finally days later Radfield tells me: [7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): my little group [7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): has a little leak [7:12:08 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): in my opinion Also don't forget in Radfield's recent post he said "OK, we have a problem town." Yeah I tried to warn you guys about this happening but nobody listened and everyone chose to point fingers instead. You guys have only yourself to blame as to why Palmar seems to know everything about everyone, despite the fact that nobody seems to be talking to him. I voted for Greymist because I knew he wouldn't let something like that happened. I'm pretty sure a few others were thinking along the same lines as me. If Greymist flips town would you still say it was mafia-like to push him into office? I would also like to say this to Mig, although it may apply to a few others as well, that you are quick to jump on anyone that does anything that is anti-Radfield or anti-sandroba. You say that "If scum were playing optimally the last thing they would want is me or radfield protected" yet you (most likely) cannot 100% prove that Radfield (or sandroba or syllogism or all 3) is town. And even if you could now you couldn't before elections started. Stop sucking up to players in your little blue circle which, in case you forgot, the leader of which claims there's a leak in. Don't base your arguments around "well he went against Radfield/sandroba/Mig he must be playing for the mafia". Go find your leak before it's too late. On October 18 2011 10:37 GreYMisT wrote: The way I see it is, we all know Foolishness is usually policy shot first day if he is town. Knowing this, he should have been posting like a monster, trying to get as much figured out for the town as possible before he dies. The fact that he has been doing quite the opposite of this worries me. ##Vote Foolishness I'll agree that I haven't been posting like a monster, but the latter part of the sentence I have been doing. Also I really hope we are all above policy lynching here, we're all good players here, if you want to policy lynch why not role a die to decide who dreamflower is shooting tonight? On October 17 2011 22:58 prplhz wrote: what i don't like about a guy like foolishness is that he's one of those names you hear a lot on this forum, but he hasn't done anything in this game yet. just about all of his posts so far have been him supporting wbg or otherwise talking about wbg related stuff, but the second decon pointed out that they might be connected, they both start distancing themselves for each other. wbg, who actively pushed for foolishness's election now says that foolishness is a null tell because of a bout of inactiveness. foolishness, as you can see in my log says citing what might be the most obvious flaws in wbg's play, the guy is ALWAYS spontaneous and he NEVER thinks things through and he's ALWAYS so freakin annoying. so why did foolishness even talk to him in the first place? foolishness could have talked to anyone but he mostly decides to just talk to wbg, this seems weird to me unless they are somehow connected. i ask him why he even bothered with wbg in the first place with his obvious character flaws and foolishness says so foolishness also talked to chaoser and kita in PMs and since he was really busy he must have talked to them quite a bit. they were both scum, but did he talk about that in the thread at all? no. foolishness is supposed to be a guy who picks up on stuff and even though he's actively PMing with two scum he doesn't pick up on ANYTHING. weird. also he says that he was really busy first day but people might not know. well, if town don't know about your activity then what good is it to us? he almost knew everything about everybody in the game, but then not really so now he's just lurking it out. wat?! no pushing his views at all, just saying that meapak is scum. honestly, i've been getting a lot of "meapak is scum" lately so there might be something about it but foolishness' entire argument is 10 words long. sounds like he didn't give it any thoughts at all. finally there's his connection with wbg that i want to talk about. first wbg struck me as being a lot less chaotic than he used to be but when he changed that i thought that maybe he'd just fallen into his lotr ways where he almost got lynched day1 for being insane. but still, "i'm insane" is not a good excuse for being insane. i get a lot more scummyness from foolishness because of my past experiences with wbg, but the two are so interconnected that one's flip will surely affect my read on the other. foolishness needs to step it up ##Vote Foolishness **Note I removed some of the content from prplhz's original post cause of the shear length, please go read his original for the irc logs and for more information. I'm just going to ignore anything you say relating to wbg, because that has nothing to do with me being scum. Unless you want to accuse both of us being scum, and if that's the case then say so. But have fun trying to make that one work. Yes I was PMing with chaoser and kitaman. You say I didn't pick up anything but how would you know? I'm not part of the Radfield group, I make sure my information is kept in the right people. Even today I told Radfield a few things and I'm sure the entire town knows by now. You seem to be connected indirectly to the Radfield group and I have no reason to trust you of course you're not going to know anything about me. And yes, because I was talking to chaoser and kitaman I thought I had an idea on who they were shooting that night. And had it turn out the way I thought it would I would have had a big lead on some mafia, but that's not the way the cookie crumbled. Of course thanks to the Radfield group everyone knew about how chaoser died. drp What have I done for the town? Let me tell you a few things I have not done. I have not put my blind trust in 3 or more players from the beginning of the game (and consequently not making sure said people know everything I've done including what I'm eating for breakfast). I have not been responsible for Palmar finding out an obscene amount of information he should not know. I have not been part of a town circle that has leaked information. I have not become town leader only to tell the town "oops, we're actually in a bad position because information is spreading faster than Yogi Bear steals picnic baskets." To anything that Palmar has ever said: | ||
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On October 18 2011 14:32 Mig wrote: Foolish you are misconstruing part of my argument. If me/rad are mafia then we have only 3 teammates to support us. Regardless of our alignment you would agree it is bad for the other mafia teams if we were in power yes? Please tell me what mafia team in the universe would ever want radfield to be invincible unless he was on his team? Also lol at thinking rad is being manipulated. And you act like a possible leak has crippled town. Last I checked 5-6 scum are most likely going to be dead after 2 days here. So please lay off the fear mongering. We are clearly not in a bad position lol. Now more importantly instead of just defending yourself, who is scum and why? You talk about being busy behind the scenes yes? So what have you accomplished? Where is your analysis? Instead of giving us 1 line about how you would probably vote sandroba how about actually giving us some details? That's terrible logic to be using. You're saying that any mafia would be against a mayor if it wasn't their own? Mayor's traditionally have been terrible in mafia games and are very susceptible to being lynched. Also there are a variety of creative ways to kill elected officials without a lynch. Just because someone didn't want Radfield to be "invincible" (lol which he's not) doesn't make them mafia. I know your butt buddies and all but really? And really really? That's not what your buddy Rad told me. Rad's the one saying the town needs to step up otherwise we're going to be in trouble. Given that your attitude this game has been "sure, whatever" I'll trust his opinion more than yours. I've heard from multiple people that there's a leak somewhere, and quite a few of these people are in your trusted butt-buddy circle. We need to kill sandroba. He's most likely to be the leak given his activity since obtaining his role, he's high up on the draft list (where we should be killing anyways). There's clearly something wrong with with the mayoral circle and we need to find out what it is instead of shooting elsewhere. I heard from somewhere that one of the bodyguards is highly suspicious. Please tell me you're looking into it. Rather, I want Radfield to tell me he's looking into it since your response will entail, "sure, whatever. btw you voted against Radfield loool you're mafia!" | ||
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On October 18 2011 15:29 Mig wrote: Foolish why are you so hostile. You should calm down on the anger front here friend. First of all I don't think my logic is wrong however I never said it was the only reason I was suspicious of you. Scum do not always play 100% optimally anyway, decon is likely scum and he voted radfield, but I really don't know how you can argue that mafia would ever want radfield in power. So understand it makes you more suspicious but by no means do I assume it automatically means you are scum just for that. Also where is this bashing coming from? You are trying to say I have had no opinions this game and I just follow what others tell me? I have to disagree with that. And so what your suggestion is we start to kill people in the mayor circle in the hopes of finding the leak, also we should be killing from the top of the list why exactly? How about since you think we have so many problems with leaks we just rely on analysis instead of roles? You have spent almost 2 full days in your own little pm circle and you haven't posted in the thread whatsoever before now. So what I want to know is where is the information you have gained? What are your opinions on meapak/wiggles? After 2 days the only thing I hear from you is we should shoot sandroba because he could be the leak and because his activity has changed. Is that really all you have? Yes I may have been a bit angry at your response and for that I apologize for coming off as harsh. Also, sandroba and Radfield seem to share everything. If I was mafia and knew sandroba was mafia, I sure wouldn't mind Radfield in office since he can be manipulated. (I am using sandroba as the obvious example but it could apply just as easily to you or syllogism). My bashing was coming from your attitude to this game. I know you will disagree wholeheartedly but the few times I did talk to you you had a very "sure, whatever" attitude, and a few others have told me likewise. This can be noted when you ran for mayor only because syllogism/sandroba told you to. Obviously your campaign became more serious but at the start it was suspect. And because of your group, it's impossible for anyone else to tell who's responsible for what. Your group seems to have unanimous opinions about every situation, but I don't know if it's one or two people doing it or if you are all splitting the work evenly. Most likely someone in your group is getting away with doing nothing, and I think that person is sandroba. | ||
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