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 Orcasgt24   Canada. July 19 2012 14:25. Posts 1268
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The Flyers have signed Shea Webber to a 14 year contracts estimated to be well north of $100 million in value. Nashville has 7 days to match but I cannt see them doing it.



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#Weber‬ ‪#offersheet‬ @Ryan_Kesler Now that's an offer sheet Kes! Makes yours look like 2 three year olds bartering for the red lego...

Last edit: 2012-07-19 14:44:01
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 Sub40APM   July 19 2012 17:36. Posts 2081
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So what I get from that is:
1) Pronger is done in hockey
2) Holmgren continues his wild changes in terms of team building and I kind of dig that kind of level of pro-activity
3) It will be harder for the owners to try to stiff the players with this and the sutter/parise contracts, if I were the NHLPA Id show this contract down their faces in the negotiations
4) If I was a Devils fans I'd be even madder, considering the price they paid for Kovy and the kind of bullshit first Minny and now the Flyers might get away with

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 ii.blitzkrieg   Canada. July 19 2012 22:07. Posts 851
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fuck i love the flyers
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 XenOmega   Canada. July 20 2012 00:22. Posts 1006
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If you were in the Preds shoes, what would you do? two 1st pick (is that correct?) may be tempting (even if the Flyers end with high picks). Its possible Weber doesn't want ot stay, in which case this may be the best they can get in return
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 Gladiator MG   United States. July 20 2012 04:03. Posts 178
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Just saw Weber might be going to Philly. Would fit him great, being a dirty player and all.
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 Orcasgt24   Canada. July 20 2012 05:18. Posts 1268
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On July 20 2012 00:22 XenOmega wrote:
If you were in the Preds shoes, what would you do? two 1st pick (is that correct?) may be tempting (even if the Flyers end with high picks). Its possible Weber doesn't want ot stay, in which case this may be the best they can get in return

The compinsation for a $7,835,220 or higher anual salary is 4 1st round picks. I'm pretty sure Webber is making more then 7,835,220 per year with this new contract. If hes not then its 2 first rounders, a second rounder and a third rounder.
"I walked through fire, and didn't get burned." Claire Bennet
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  JimmyJRaynor   Canada. July 20 2012 06:07. Posts 1625Profile Blog # 
Burke won't sign players to offer sheets because he says its "dirty thing to do to other teams".
Burke won't sign players to contracts longer than 5 years because it circumvents the salary cap rules of the NHL and is "unethical".

This Flyers deal breaks both of Burke's holy rules of free agent signing.

Burke is going to "ethical" his way right out of a job.
Last edit: 2012-07-20 06:26:39
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 QuanticHawk   United States. July 20 2012 06:16. Posts 21282
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the devs had 4 years of $1m in their first offer, and it took him to 43 or so

this is still lolholyfuckinshit though. homer gone nuts.
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 Orcasgt24   Canada. July 21 2012 00:23. Posts 1268
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Its gonna be a very intresting next 5 days. Theirs alot of things that can happen. Technically Nashville can sign Webber to a different contract and auto void the offer sheet. If they walked into his agents office and said we are prepared to match the offer sheet that may scare the webber camp into signing a much shorter contract with the Preds(shorter, not cheaper, cheaper wont fly)
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 QuanticHawk   United States. July 21 2012 00:36. Posts 21282
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im like 99% sure that they have to match that exact offer and dont have that option.

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 Zorkmid   Canada. July 21 2012 00:38. Posts 3858
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Super interesting. I think the league might step in and kibosh this 14 year front loaded contract. I wonder what happens to Webber's rights in such a situation.
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 QuanticHawk   United States. July 21 2012 02:39. Posts 21282
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I don't see any reason they would. It's total legal. Butt fucking a cash strapped team isn't against the rules. It adheres to everything in the cba now

SEASON NHL SALARY S. BONUS CAP HIT
2012-13 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2013-14 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2014-15 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2015-16 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2016-17 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2017-18 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2018-19 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2019-20 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2020-21 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2021-22 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2022-23 $3,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2023-24 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2024-25 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2025-26 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
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 Zorkmid   Canada. July 21 2012 02:46. Posts 3858
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On July 21 2012 02:39 Hawk wrote:
I don't see any reason they would. It's total legal. Butt fucking a cash strapped team isn't against the rules. It adheres to everything in the cba now

SEASON NHL SALARY S. BONUS CAP HIT
2012-13 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2013-14 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2014-15 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2015-16 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2016-17 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2017-18 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2018-19 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2019-20 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2020-21 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2021-22 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2022-23 $3,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2023-24 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2024-25 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2025-26 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142


Short memory?

Kovalchuk contract rejected by NHL
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 QuanticHawk   United States. July 21 2012 02:58. Posts 21282
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That was rejected because he'd be 43 or 44 when it ended, and because he would have been paid $7m over the last seven seasons.

That original Kovy deal also brought this rule change:


1. While players and clubs can continue to negotiate long-term contracts (five years or longer) that include contract years in a player's 40s, for purposes of salary-cap calculation the contract will effectively be cut off in the year of the contract in which the player turns 41.

Homer structured the deal to get in just under the Kovy Rule. It also tapers off no more than any of the other 10 year+ contracts

also relevent news: the nba is expected to ok ads on jerseys for next season. Hopefully this dumb shit doesnt bleed over to other sports
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 QuanticHawk   United States. July 21 2012 05:40. Posts 21282
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Gagner avoid arbitration today with a $3.4 for one year. Pretty solid. I think he can be a very good 2C.

Flaccid! Weigh in!
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  JimmyJRaynor   Canada. July 24 2012 02:41. Posts 1625Profile Blog # 
Where is Shane Doan going?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/18510/morning-links-doan-hossa-and-more

There is really no need to travel to all of these cities.
This "dog and pony show" is intended to send a clear signal to Greg Jamison that he needs to come up with the cash. Otherwise, he should do the right thing and admit he does not have the resources to buy and run the team.

Peladeau, an M&A vulture, must be really low balling Bettman. lol
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 StarStruck   July 24 2012 02:47. Posts 18387
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On July 20 2012 06:16 Hawk wrote:
the devs had 4 years of $1m in their first offer, and it took him to 43 or so

this is still lolholyfuckinshit though. homer gone nuts.


I don't know man, it fits right into everything else he's ever done.


On July 21 2012 02:58 Hawk wrote:
That was rejected because he'd be 43 or 44 when it ended, and because he would have been paid $7m over the last seven seasons.

That original Kovy deal also brought this rule change:


1. While players and clubs can continue to negotiate long-term contracts (five years or longer) that include contract years in a player's 40s, for purposes of salary-cap calculation the contract will effectively be cut off in the year of the contract in which the player turns 41.

Homer structured the deal to get in just under the Kovy Rule. It also tapers off no more than any of the other 10 year+ contracts

also relevent news: the nba is expected to ok ads on jerseys for next season. Hopefully this dumb shit doesnt bleed over to other sports


On practice jerseys I'm okay with it. The Maple Leafs did it for a few seasons, but on the actual jersey? FUCK NO.
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 turamn   United States. July 24 2012 02:56. Posts 1291
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On July 24 2012 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Where is Shane Doan going?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/18510/morning-links-doan-hossa-and-more

There is really no need to travel to all of these cities.
This "dog and pony show" is intended to send a clear signal to Greg Jamison that he needs to come up with the cash. Otherwise, he should do the right thing and admit he does not have the resources to buy and run the team.

Peladeau, an M&A vulture, must be really low balling Bettman. lol


You're exactly right. He's just killing time to see if the Coyotes can come up with the cash. I don't believe that he really wants to go elsewhere unless he absolutely has to. Otherwise, I can see him going to a contender for cheap. The Rangers could use him, for sure.
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 crawlingchaos   Canada. July 24 2012 03:14. Posts 2011
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Well well, this is interesting:

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Rick Nash trade to New York Rangers in process now. Details to follow.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
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 turamn   United States. July 24 2012 03:25. Posts 1291
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So much for Doan. WOW. Can't wait to see what they gave up for him.
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