| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 12 2011 08:19. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 12 2011 06:49 Corrosive wrote:
Directshow with DXTORY only works when i have File Output selected aswell. If i have File Output unchecked it will not even start. i have tried many different hotkeys, even normal keys such as W, A, S, D, all Fnumber keys. But directshow does work if i have file output selected. Unfortunately i don't have enough hard drive space to have file output selected every time i want to stream. Does anyone know what is wrong? Thanks
Edit : I understood something very different, I will re-edit this once i find a solution.
Last edit: 2011-10-12 08:23:45 |
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| iinsight Canada. October 13 2011 02:41. Posts 192 | Profile # |
| This works amazingly well. Xsplit is obviously doing something terribly wrong. |
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 Excalibur_Z United States. October 13 2011 03:24. Posts 10287 | Profile # |
| Thanks very much for this guide. I had previously encountered sporadic or severe framerate drops in games when using Xsplit's screen capture, and just dismissed it as my computer (which is sufficiently powerful, I thought) being too weak to stream at a decent resolution. Using DXTory resulted in a significant improvement. Using Xsplit's screen capture, usually my fps would drop by about half, but with DXTory it's about a 1 to 2 fps drop. Last night I tested streaming SC2 at 720p 30fps and Dota2 720p 60fps and both worked exceptionally well. I configured everything in the way you mentioned in the guide and now I have no more streaming issues. Really great work. |
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| s00pr Sweden. October 13 2011 03:58. Posts 86 | Profile # |
Wait a second.. Goodseed, how did you get your video so crisp? I did all the same settings as mentioned but my quality input just seems very very bad from dxtory! check it out :S
http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297304676
and its the same crappy quality when I just press F12 and even no stream so its like my output from dxtory?
*EDIT*
I rebooted both programs and it seems like it fixed itself 
http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297306599Last edit: 2011-10-13 05:34:39 |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 13 2011 04:57. Posts 160 | Profile # |
You are more than welcome Excalibur.
Ont he other hand S00pr , how much Kbps Upload you have ? I am curious because i think you can get even better looking stream. |
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| s00pr Sweden. October 13 2011 05:05. Posts 86 | Profile # |
On October 13 2011 04:57 Nepsilon wrote:
You are more than welcome Excalibur.
Ont he other hand S00pr , how much Kbps Upload you have ? I am curious because i think you can get even better looking stream.
I have 10mbit upload, I'm playing around with the setting atm, got any suggestions? Atm I just changed my resolution in xsplit up to 1680 again, when I only used Xsplit before I could always get some kind of stutter when using 1680 so I always had to use 1280..
So right now I tried 2000/2000 60fps and 1680x1050
http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297309163
*edit*
I can see stuffer from some fps drop or something, dont like it
I tried 30fps before and its no problem. Maybe I should just use 30fps and like 3000kbps, while like 2000 buffer and 1680 resolution, what do you think?
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1531274067.png)
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1531277190.png) Last edit: 2011-10-13 05:33:56 |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 13 2011 05:12. Posts 160 | Profile # |
You can try increasing to 3000 and see the difference , i think it will be alot better. On the other hand make sure u have aspect ratio clicked so it wont stretch the picture unless you really want the whole stream to not be in a black box.
Be aware that not every single person that does want to watch stream might be able to watch yours.
2mbps download is what i think a lot people have. I am not fully sure but make sure you dont lose any of your people that watch you.
About the buffer , stream 1 video and than watch it , if you have pixelisation increase it, if your video is stuttering decrease it.
Best of luck.
Edit : Stick with 720p.
For 1080p you will need a lot more than 3000kbps to make it look perfect.
And dont go over 30 dps. Useless. I was watching IPL3 which was on 60 fps , it was unreal in some ways. At least i felt it very weird. Last edit: 2011-10-13 05:14:51 |
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| s00pr Sweden. October 13 2011 05:32. Posts 86 | Profile # |
Ok thanks for the input man. Yeah the IPL stream was so so nice imo, I love the 60fps actually  But I dont think its possible while playing.. 1680x1050 is giving me a decrease in fps that I can feel while in-game so I wont use it.. But the quality is so different! Here's everything set to 3000/3000 and 30fps
1680x1050:
http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297311220 Such nice quality! >< But obvious lagginess.
1280x800:
http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297310836
And I changed the aspect rate aswell. Thanks for your help sir! |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 13 2011 06:26. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 13 2011 05:32 s00pr wrote:Ok thanks for the input man. Yeah the IPL stream was so so nice imo, I love the 60fps actually But I dont think its possible while playing.. 1680x1050 is giving me a decrease in fps that I can feel while in-game so I wont use it.. But the quality is so different! Here's everything set to 3000/3000 and 30fps 1680x1050: http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297311220 Such nice quality! >< But obvious lagginess. 1280x800: http://www.justin.tv/s00pr/b/297310836And I changed the aspect rate aswell. Thanks for your help sir!
I saw the stuttering , which wasnt very common in the videos. Do lower the Buffer. if you have it at 3000/3000 , try 3000/2500. See if that is going to work.
Some people say for their stuttering they have been lowering to a ratio of 4:1 of their VBV. Play with the Buffer and see which spot is the best for you.
You are more than welcome btw. |
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| Goodseed Korea (South). October 13 2011 09:50. Posts 270 | Profile # |
| Do you know how I can increase the output volume from the stream? I listen to the music quiet loud with my headphone but when I watch the recorded stream, it is way too low compared to what I hear when I go live. I would have to like make the bar maxium on the twitch tv to make it a little bit louder. |
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| PepperoniPiZZa Sierra Leone. October 13 2011 12:41. Posts 1185 | Profile Blog # |
This is pretty sweet. I gave it a go with Rage and I had a huge increase in ingame FPS compare to before, there was almost no drop in FPS when streaming. I also noticed another funny thing while testing; whenever I was watching my stream on the 2nd monitor to check for lag, my ingame FPS dropped by 50%.
Thanks for the guide. |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 13 2011 18:38. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 13 2011 09:50 Goodseed wrote:
Do you know how I can increase the output volume from the stream? I listen to the music quiet loud with my headphone but when I watch the recorded stream, it is way too low compared to what I hear when I go live. I would have to like make the bar maxium on the twitch tv to make it a little bit louder.
See in windows sound configurations if the levels are set to 100. If they are than not much you can do beside increasing the volume level on the program you are listening the music and or increase it from Xsplit.
PepperoniPiZZa , you are welcome and i am more than glad that i`ve helped just another person. |
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| zeroISM Japan. October 13 2011 23:50. Posts 151 | Profile Blog # |
Nepsilon, you are amazing.
I bought DxTory the second I saw my new 30fps stream running smoothly.
Thank you so much!
and it is so much better for playing as well, so glad for this :D
if someone wants to check out the difference, I made this video while I was testing
http://www.twitch.tv/z32o/b/297359086Last edit: 2011-10-13 23:56:43 |
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| everytimee United States. October 14 2011 00:45. Posts 118 | Profile # |
| finally i found someone having the same problem and a solution...thanks! |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 14 2011 00:48. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 13 2011 23:50 zeroISM wrote:Nepsilon, you are amazing. I bought DxTory the second I saw my new 30fps stream running smoothly. Thank you so much! and it is so much better for playing as well, so glad for this :D if someone wants to check out the difference, I made this video while I was testing http://www.twitch.tv/z32o/b/297359086
Unbelievable difference ZeroISM ! I will add this video on the 1st post.
I am more than glad that this guide helped you as well.
Also , you are more than welcome Everytimee.
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| theqat United States. October 14 2011 01:20. Posts 2098 | Profile Blog # |
| Nepsilon, do you know if changing the Dxtory codec settings (like Full RGB lossless vs 2x2 YUV "low" quality) makes a difference in performance with DirectShow output? Also, do you know whether checking "compress" makes a difference in performance? |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 14 2011 01:23. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 14 2011 01:20 theqat wrote:
Nepsilon, do you know if changing the Dxtory codec settings (like Full RGB lossless vs 2x2 YUV "low" quality) makes a difference in performance with DirectShow output? Also, do you know whether checking "compress" makes a difference in performance?
I think it does make a difference but not when attached to xsplit , since xsplit is the one encoding the video and sending it.I need to make some more testing but for now i can not since my upload is bad and i can not see the difference.
Compress didnt affect my stream at all, it could be only for local recording.
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| TheDoK666 France. October 14 2011 01:47. Posts 171 | Profile # |
| Does anyone got problems with the last update of xsplit for console games streaming via an acquisition card? i mean without a screen capture... |
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| Nepsilon Macedonia. October 14 2011 01:54. Posts 160 | Profile # |
On October 14 2011 01:47 TheDoK666 wrote:
Does anyone got problems with the last update of xsplit for console games streaming via an acquisition card? i mean without a screen capture...
Sorry but i can not help you in that department. I guess someone who knows more about it can throw you some info. |
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| Excalibur_Z United States. October 14 2011 02:04. Posts 10287 | Profile # |
On October 14 2011 01:47 TheDoK666 wrote:
Does anyone got problems with the last update of xsplit for console games streaming via an acquisition card? i mean without a screen capture...
A friend of mine was trying to do this. His computer isn't extremely powerful (a core2duo if I recall?) and his current setup is xbox -> Hauppauge HD PVR capture device -> output to monitor -> screen capture via Xsplit -> stream. Of course, the monitor becomes the middleman so there is the potential for unnecessary CPU work. However, I told him about DXTory as a possible solution to bypass the screen capture method and he said it wasn't an option because of this: http://forum.dxtory.com/index.php?topic=875.0;wap2
This is a technical subject.
Because VMR9 of OS does rendering with DirectX9, you may capture it.
And, because overlay is a method that DirectDraw is old, it doesn't support it in Dxtory.
I do not have the plan to deal with this very old method.
It is additionally because it is not a method used in the game program.
Does Xsplit support a direct capture from capture devices now (I believe this is GameSource but I haven't messed with it)? If so, are you encountering any problems with it? |
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