| PopcornColonel United States. October 16 2011 13:16. Posts 650 | Profile # |
I would definitely say that I enjoyed your casting. Though I didn't really like painuser at first, your casting duo grew on me, and you're really awesome now  |
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 ContactKilla United States. October 16 2011 15:42. Posts 194 | Profile # |
| Read my sig. You are the worst god damn caster ever. I cant stand watching you cast. Most of what you say is nothing more than what the audience can figure out for them selves and you miss many many many many many different points in any match. You mention nothing of timing, unit comp, response to certain builds from the other player, you miss when expansions go up. You are just terrible. Painuser does a much better job than you but with you in there, its easy to be turned off even at such a big big event. Get better game knowledge or just stop casting because its frustrating that you are being invited to these events. |
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| Kawoomba October 16 2011 15:52. Posts 20 | Profile # |
You and Husky are what got me into SC2, looking for "starcraft videos in HD" on Youtube and finding your VODs. While I'll always be somewhat thankful for that (goodbye other hobbies), I can't help but feel that you've never really developed as a caster, that you're still in a similar place you were in back then, while most of your audience (except maybe the super casual) have long since moved on. Even Husky has become knowledgeable to a good degree, while you, in all honesty, seem more akin to TotalBiscuit as a play-by-play caster with little game knowledge, except that he does a better job at that.
Maybe you just need to find a way to get actually hyped about the game, so your excitement seems less, well, fake. Or take a break from casting to really work on your skill. Try to get into high masters as a random player, watch replays without talking, just to check the flow of the game. Whatever you do, I feel like something's gotta change.Last edit: 2011-10-16 15:53:10 |
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| Jojo131 Philippines. October 16 2011 15:54. Posts 1312 | Profile # |
On October 16 2011 15:42 ContactKilla wrote:
Read my sig. You are the worst god damn caster ever. I cant stand watching you cast. Most of what you say is nothing more than what the audience can figure out for them selves and you miss many many many many many different points in any match. You mention nothing of timing, unit comp, response to certain builds from the other player, you miss when expansions go up. You are just terrible. Painuser does a much better job than you but with you in there, its easy to be turned off even at such a big big event. Get better game knowledge or just stop casting because its frustrating that you are being invited to these events.
When I read this, I imagined this guy frothing in the mouth as he was typing his heart out passionately about his hatred towards HD, LOL. Some people spend way too much time on this game...
You guys did pretty well in IPL, less of the Tastetosis banter though during important parts would be nice, I'd like to hear more focus on the games and particularly some better insight on Zerg and Terran perspective since those are your races (right?) as the games progress. Keep up the good work you guys.Last edit: 2011-10-16 16:00:31 |
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 0neder United States. October 16 2011 16:03. Posts 3732 | Profile # |
Less predictions and telling people the outcome is likely already decided.
More excitement, promotion of uncertainty, play-by-play, with description of general strategies and what the player might be thinking.
Turn off progress bars please. |
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| scronaldo United States. February 03 2012 04:36. Posts 19 | Profile # |
| Currently watching IPL with HD and Painuser casting. May be a rebroadcast - not sure. just wanted you guys to know that the ColMvP player Goswser isn't pronounced 'Goswer' (nor is it spelled that way -.-) It's pronounced GOSU USER! thanks! fuck! <3 |
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| Th0R Canada. February 03 2012 06:08. Posts 328 | Profile # |
| Painuser has had great casting but HD you need more work. You constantly miss stuff and are just talking about things that the audience can figure out on their own. I've noticed you get corrected a lot by Painuser also. Overall though I like you casting duo. You guys have great chemistry! |
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| Vague February 03 2012 06:28. Posts 170 | Profile # |
| I don't know if this fits in your overall plan, but I think you guys should cast a bit less. You cast a LOT of games, and it shows. I see you guys casting completely exhausted very often trying to pretend that you are still interested on what is going on in the game. It's not enjoyable to see a game casted by a couple of guys that need a break badly (unless its the finals of an important tournament). Also, regardless of your quality as caster, if people see too much of you, they will get sick of you. One reason I still enjoy the top casters is that I look forward to their next cast (sometimes I have to wait weeks). With you guys it just feels like you are on all the time, so it is easier to stop being excited about your work. |
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| latan February 03 2012 06:47. Posts 724 | Profile # |
| watching the team league thing right now and god you guys are annoying. first, HD, stop making stuff up. Second, please focus on the game, no one wants to hear your senseless ramblings. I usually don't mind casters much but I actually ahd to mute it. |
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| BrauL Canada. February 03 2012 07:30. Posts 185 | Profile Blog # |
PainUser's casting is actually great, he knows what he is talking about and usually makes good calls and is correct almost all of the time. HD, you need to work on your game sense and knowledge. A lot of the time you will call out that the game is over for one player when actually the complete opposite is true (see Sheth vs Ryze I believe from the IPL team league? it was a game played on Shakuras it might not have been Ryze but Goswer instead). Overall, the duo is average at best, but would actually be way above average if HD stepped up his game.
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| LordZan February 03 2012 07:51. Posts 1 | Profile # |
I love your casting. You might not always get the buildorder down, but the banter is hillarious and at least half the reason I started watching SC2 casts. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really care too much about whether casters are technically proficient; I'll figure out what's going on eventually. You guys make me laugh while watching interesting games.
I actually just made an account to say I'm really sad you guys won't be casting much for the next month or so. Last edit: 2012-02-03 07:51:34 |
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| Roxy Canada. February 03 2012 08:06. Posts 753 | Profile # |
you guys have gotten better lately
if i could make one suggestion:
more focus on the improtance of what the players scout, and the decisions that are falling out of what they scout would be nice.
for example, say it is against a Z. you can talk about how seeing a gas opener vs a no-gas opener will affect the decision tree for the oponent, and the implications of what they see (such as if you see them take drones off gas at 100) |
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| nOCEiLiNGs United States. February 03 2012 12:23. Posts 3 | Profile # |
| HD in all honesty you aren't even that bad dude, don't worry about all those rude peeps. Your overall game sense and knowledge is good enough and still improving but your banter during the game seems like it makes it hard for you to pay full attention to the game and so you miss things! Other than that keep up the good work. |
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| askTeivospy February 03 2012 12:30. Posts 1495 | Profile Blog # |
| if anyone here ever watched the PTSL season 2 final day VODs, they'd agree Painuser / HD are terrible casters o_O Showing up late / being drunk and so much more but can't remember. Since then I refuse to believe that anything you do 1v1 is anything little more than an act and you actually don't care about pro level SC2 despite your "professionalism" |
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| FinestHour United States. February 03 2012 12:37. Posts 6688 | Profile # |
On February 03 2012 12:30 askTeivospy wrote:
if anyone here ever watched the PTSL season 2 final day VODs, they'd agree Painuser / HD are terrible casters o_O Showing up late / being drunk and so much more but can't remember. Since then I refuse to believe that anything you do 1v1 is anything little more than an act and you actually don't care about pro level SC2 despite your "professionalism"
I remember that, thought it was kinda unprofessional...especially since these guys haven been in front of Google and other companies talking about the game. Gotta really be professional. |
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| Hulavuta United States. February 03 2012 12:40. Posts 1252 | Profile Blog # |
HD, I just wish you knew more about the players. You seem to be somewhat ignorant when it comes to facts about the players.
Just for one example, saying that IdrA doesn't ladder much. He was rank 1 GM in NA for quite a while, and even stated that that was his usual form of practice.
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| joocybaneling February 03 2012 12:46. Posts 67 | Profile # |
HD you need to up your game knowledge more and pay more attention to the game.
Painuser you need work better with your co caster and not talk over them.
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| Bagration United States. February 03 2012 12:47. Posts 10792 | Profile Blog # |
HD and Painuser should really have their own show. You guys have great chemistry together, and I would hate for that natural synergy to go to waste. I remember HD and Painuser doing random ladder games where they would do the most ridiculous cheeses during the HD World Invite as spoilers.
I can see it now:
IPL proudly presents: Cheese'd, with HD and Painuser. Watch HD and Painuser cheese and pull other crazy shenanigans on unsuspecting players on ladder. |
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| PR4Y United States. February 03 2012 12:50. Posts 258 | Profile # |
watching IPL team arena last night was just... bad. i'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but honestly could you talk about the game once in a while?
after one break, we came back from the ads and listened to you and painuser talking about ghostbusters and just all kinds of random nonsense for _OVER 5 MINUTES_.... Literally NOTHING was said about the upcoming players or the matchup on what map or ANYTHING at all. I found this disturbing to believe that IPL finds this of the quality of content that they want their name branded on... and i'm surprised this is being allowed to continue.
anyone else that was watching IPL team arena last night that was in the chat will also contest that this was easily one of the worst casts they've ever seen. the total lack of actual game related talk was downright upsetting.
You BOTH need to start focusing on actually watching the game and talking about the game rather then trying to be stand-up comedians, because trust me... you guys aren't funny. I almost killed myself the 50th time I heard the "commendation of X" joke within a 2 hour span.
The thing is, you guys aren't bad casters. It just seems like when you two get together you'd rather chit-chat about random nonsense then talk about the game, players, and current happenings.
Overall, I'd give you guys a rating of 3/10... TONS of room for improvement.
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I'd just like to reiterate the fact that last nights cast was so terrible, there are more and more people coming here and going out of their way to point out how bad it was. I pretty much agree with ALL of this guys points:
On February 03 2012 13:03 joshie0808 wrote:
HD been a fan of you since the beta.
Painuser, been a fan of you since finding your youtube channel (shortly after game got released) and watching your FPVODs and analysis.
HOWEVER. Last night, IPL Team League, Teamliquid vs ColMVP - My impression of you guys as casters went from above average positive to wtf happened?
Painuser: Please dont yell the word "RETARDED" on air.
HD: Painuser throws you many lines that you dont seem to catch.. work on your chemistry ppls.
Both of you:
1. You're HIRED. You're PAID. You're professionals!! Know your own map pool! (Calm before the storm). Thats like hockey/sports caster not knowing the name of the city the team's are from.
Don't spend 10minutes talking about swatsikas (and other unrelated stuff) and 2 minutes on the actual game. I watch starcraft to also learn/hear/be entertained ABOUT starcraft.
2. Don't make weird calls by saying that Sheth should send his lings in (ZvZ vs ColRyze) when he obviously wants them for banelings (baneling nest 90% complete). I dont even main zerg and i can tell his intentions. There's a reason ppl say "go watch Day9 to learn" and "only watch <insert names> for fun. Its because many ppl make the wrong calls and then newbie players learn to make the wrong decisions. Painuser I expect better from you seen as you were once a high NA player.
3. Watch the minimap! Seriously, im only in diamond and i see so much stuff going on that you guys miss. Drops, flanks etc. 4. Know the players and the scene! You should be ashamed for calling Goswer "Gauss-u-err" and send him an apology! Thats like media/celebrity specialists on MTV calling a celeb by the wrong name. Its GosU User! UU = W.
5. Keep up with the scene! Teamliquid didnt "only recently" acquire Zenio, that was back in late 2011! I get that some ppl won't follow the scene so closely, but you can say "for those of you that dont know, Zenio was transferred to TL 3 months ago" rather than "HEY! New acquisition by liquid!".
6. Dont wonder why someone lost a battle. Its obvious you weren't paying attention earlier because of your random banter and didnt see that one side is way ahead in upgrades
7. If you DONT know the map pool or the map, and then you compare calm before the storm to crevasse, and say that its "a better version of crevasse", at LEAST talk about the differences! Lack of rocked paths means available counter attack routes. One tower in mid (instead of 4) means side paths arent watched. In base nat has double gas. Etc.
What you did good:
1. Being light hearted and chill and having energy at the right moments
Pleaseee FOCUS what your good at into improving the above points!
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| hashaki Norway. February 03 2012 12:51. Posts 157 | Profile # |
To the both of you, here's how I view you two casting (what little I've seen)
- Miss alot of important things during games (upgrades being one. Why do you act shocked when a 2-2 players wins an engagement with a lesser army vs a 0-2 player? It's obvious, you didn't pay attention)
- Stupid goofing off amongst themselves during periods with low action in the game that makes them seem rather unprofessional and childish instead of talking about something related to the game, or heck, even the players in the game.
I don't care about indepth gameknowledge or a caster telling me why a player is doing a certain build or possible counterbuilds, but I do care about casters not sticking to the game or even paying attention to the game.
Right now I'll rather watch the games muted with music in the background. I get just as much information about what is going on from watching the productiontab (if not more, considering listening to you can be distracting) as I do from listening to you.
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