NeoIllusions United States. October 19 2011 08:51. Posts 18012 | Profile Blog # |
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The newest champion for this patch is Graves, the Outlaw.
Patch 1.0.0.127: Live on Oct 19th, 2011 + Show Spoiler +League of Legends v1.0.0.127
Graves, the Outlaw
Buckshot: Graves fires three bullets in a cone damaging all enemies in the projectiles path. Enemies at close range can be hit by multiple projectiles, but each one beyond the first will deal reduced damage. Smokescreen: Graves fires a smoke canister at the target area that deals damage and creates a cloud of smoke. Enemies inside the smoke cloud have reduced sight range and movement speed. Quickdraw: Graves dashes forward gaining an attack speed boost for several seconds. Attacking enemies lowers the cooldown of this skill. Collateral Damage (Ultimate): Graves fires an explosive shell dealing heavy damage to the first target it hits. After hitting a champion or reaching the end of its range the shell explodes dealing damage in a cone behind the target. True Grit (Passive): Graves gains increasing armor and magic resistance the longer he remains in combat.
Corki
Gatling Gun Now has a base damage of 20/32/44/56/68 per second Duration has been adjusted to 4 seconds at all levels Scales with 0.4 bonus Attack Damage ratio per second, from 0.4 total Attack Damage ratio every second
Gangplank
Raise Morale Active movement speed reduced to 8/11/14/17/20 from 10/14/18/22/26 Active attack damage reduced to 12/19/26/33/40 from 14/22/30/38/46
Kog'Maw
Bio-Arcane Barrage duration reduced to 8 seconds from 10
Orianna
Basic attack range increased to 525 from 500
Riven
Broken Wings Now counts as an attack command when you use it to lock-onto a target. Slightly extended duration of collision ignoring with minions after using this ability
Shaco
Health per level increased to 84 from 80 Base Health increased to 525 from 501 Base Mana increased to 270 from 250
Skarner
Attack Speed per level increased to 2.1% from 1.44% Energize will no longer activate when attacking Towers. Crystal Slash Mana cost decreased to 15 at all ranks from 22/24/26/28/30 Fracture will now heal Skarner if Fracture kills its target. Impale duration increased to 1.75 from 1.5 seconds
Talon
Base health regeneration reduced to 7.25 per 5 seconds from 9.5 Base mana regeneration reduced to 6.75 per 5 seconds from 10
Dominion
Ambient experience gain has been lowered by 10% Lowered the point where Nexus Health will only be affected by holding capture points (and not by Champion Kills or Neutralizes) to 100 Nexus Health from 125 Nexus Health Health Pack pickups will now grant 20% more Mana Personal Scoring has been adjusted to more evenly reward defensive play: Minion Kill reward increased to 2 points from 1 Channel Interrupt reward increased to 5 from 2 Martyr (dying on point) now gives an additional 10 points over its previous bonus Point defense bonus is granted more regularly There is now a score bonus associated with getting a Champion kill or assist while being on or near a point.
Items
Tear of the Goddess, Archangel's Staff, and Manamune now display their current bonus mana again Hextech Gunblade Attack Damage reduced to 40 from 60 Ability Power reduced to 70 from 75 Life Steal reduced to 15% from 20% Spell Vamp reduced to 20% from 25% and is now UNIQUE + Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +
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| Kenpachi United States. October 19 2011 08:52. Posts 9008 | Profile Blog # |
first! jk. gonna buy shaco soon. buff after buffs -_- |
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| zulu_nation8 China. October 19 2011 08:55. Posts 18693 | Profile Blog # |
| Is the Corki change a buff or nerf? |
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| Blitzkrieg0 United States. October 19 2011 08:57. Posts 4772 | Profile Blog # |
Btw what does it mean when it says that Gunblade's spell vamp is unique? Does it mean that its spell vamp doesn't stack with any other sources of spell vamp (e.g. Akali passive) or does it mean that the spell vamps of multiple Gunblades won't be stacked?
Stacking gunblades will no longer give additional spell vamp.
Having to buy philo stone is a pretty big deal for someone whose gameplan is revolved around building up as much burst as possilble.
The fact that he could buy nothing but AD and still spam his shit in lane forever was the most retarded part about him. His insane burst after snowballing is a trickle-down effect from that, imo.
That would matter if he had to get ahead to still be useful. I don't believe this is the case for Talon. Delaying your core by 800 gold to get a Philo Stone isn't the end of the world for Talon. It just means his godmode starts 800 gold later (assuming you don't just have to be better at using your skills or run mana runes). Maybe it's amumu syndrome where once people get better at playing against him he'll fall off, but I think his ratios are broken in the first place.Last edit: 2011-10-19 09:02:48 |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 19 2011 08:59. Posts 3293 | Profile # |
Do abilities that hit on next autoattack and scale with ad scale with the bonus ad from sheen or does it scale of your normal ad and just add the bonus ad from sheen on top of it? Like Morde Q for example(might be a bad example tho since his Q doesn't scale off of base ad).
On October 19 2011 08:55 zulu_nation8 wrote: Is the Corki change a buff or nerf?
It's a buff, his E will always do 68 damage @ rank5 and lvl18 corki without bonus ad will do 40damage with E. Buff is quite big @ lvl9, less @ lvl18 but still a buff.Last edit: 2011-10-19 09:02:02 |
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| emucxg Finland. October 19 2011 09:00. Posts 3616 | Profile Blog # |
On October 19 2011 08:52 Kenpachi wrote: first! jk. gonna buy shaco soon. buff after buffs -_-
still shitty at teamfight...
lv3 gank will be 2stronk though |
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| Skithiryx Australia. October 19 2011 09:02. Posts 393 | Profile # |
| I think the GP nerf was needed personally, he was already a pretty bad jungler so it's relegated him more to a solo top role, I think it was mostly aimed at teamfights however, i remember watching some of the IEMNY games where they were 3v4'ing purely because GP active gave them that much power. |
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| SnK-Arcbound United States. October 19 2011 09:02. Posts 2183 | Profile # |
| Saint needs to stop jungling with rammus. Other people will start doing it and I won't be able to play him anymore. |
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| Abenson Canada. October 19 2011 09:03. Posts 2792 | Profile Blog # |
This patch is really weird, to say the least. Nerf gunblade - akali still gonna be strong, but killed jax. Lee sin - not touched! :D [Gonna keep abusing his op-ness] Talon - His burst is OP, nerf his regen Randomly nerf GP
Seems like a stupid patch, to be honest. |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 19 2011 09:03. Posts 3293 | Profile # |
It's ok just jungle skarner next patch you'll actually be able to use spells inside the jungle. Akali is still gonna be strong but she's also strong without gunblade, jax isn't really killed and the talon nerf is aimed @ his ridic laning that lets him spam W till you die.Last edit: 2011-10-19 09:04:13 |
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| Phrost United States. October 19 2011 09:04. Posts 2671 | Profile Blog # |
On October 19 2011 09:03 JackDino wrote: It's ok just jungle skarner next patch you'll actually be able to use spells inside the jungle. Akali is still gonna be strong but she's also strong without gunblade, jax isn't really killed and the talon nerf is aimed @ his ridic laning that lets him spam W till you die.
And you wont have to wait 20 minutes between auto attacks! It's going to be great! |
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| Abenson Canada. October 19 2011 09:05. Posts 2792 | Profile Blog # |
On October 19 2011 09:03 JackDino wrote: It's ok just jungle skarner next patch you'll actually be able to use spells inside the jungle. Akali is still gonna be strong but she's also strong without gunblade, jax isn't really killed and the talon nerf is aimed @ his ridic laning that lets him spam W till you die.
But can't they just adjust Talon's CD on W instead of randomly nerfing his regen? ._. |
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| JackDino Gabon. October 19 2011 09:06. Posts 3293 | Profile # |
Nerfing his regen is the easiest way without touching any other parts of the game, just his laning. Besides, if it isn't enough they can still hit him harder . Better to nerf him slowly than overnerf him.Last edit: 2011-10-19 09:13:33 |
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| bumatlarge United States. October 19 2011 09:13. Posts 3844 | Profile Blog # |
MY POOR KOGMAW
nah the 10 seconds was absurd, Id often use it and teamfight and kill someone and then someone else then run, and see its still on for another 3 seconds and i would be like wut lol... its still active more often then not I think |
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| Juicyfruit Canada. October 19 2011 09:13. Posts 3477 | Profile # |
| Let's get something straight, I looked at like 20 champions and none of them had a higher mana regen than 7. Talon having 10 base mana regen is straight up weird and I'm not surprised that they nerfed it. |
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| Cloud Sexico. October 19 2011 09:19. Posts 5604 | Profile Blog # |
Could someone explain to me what does this mean exactly?
Riven
Broken Wings Now counts as an attack command when you use it to lock-onto a target. |
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| Slayer91 Ireland. October 19 2011 09:20. Posts 8841 | Profile # |
On October 19 2011 09:13 Juicyfruit wrote: Let's get something straight, I looked at like 20 champions and none of them had a higher mana regen than 7. Talon having 10 base mana regen is straight up weird and I'm not surprised that they nerfed it.
It's like instead of giving him energy he just gets infinite mana in lane I don't understand it really. |
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| freelander Hungary. October 19 2011 09:23. Posts 3953 | Profile Blog # |
On October 19 2011 09:19 Cloud wrote: Could someone explain to me what does this mean exactly?
Riven
Broken Wings Now counts as an attack command when you use it to lock-onto a target.
creep agro ? |
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| JBright Canada. October 19 2011 09:24. Posts 3796 | Profile # |
On October 19 2011 09:19 Cloud wrote: Could someone explain to me what does this mean exactly?
Riven
Broken Wings Now counts as an attack command when you use it to lock-onto a target.
Maybe it's like the shunpo or leap attack change where Riven will now try to get an attack in after she lands from 1 combo of broken wings. |
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| gtrsrs United States. October 19 2011 09:28. Posts 4416 | Profile # |
People are looking a the gunblade nerf the wrong way - it's definitely not hurting jax as much as it's hurting akali
Akali gets more use out of the AD because of her passive which grants more spellvamp aka more sustain from more ad. Bugger ad nerf really kills her sustain without crushing her damage
In the other hand jax makes way more use of the ap which was hit much less. The high ratios on q and w make it so ap is desireable on him. So the ad nerf is far less significant - but the overall subtraction of both WILL hurt his tankiness |
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