| ElusoryX Singapore. October 28 2011 20:32. Posts 1928 | Profile Blog # |
| gonna see flash lead the terran dominance :D |
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| Micket United Kingdom. October 28 2011 20:32. Posts 2163 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 20:23 ZAiNs wrote:So SC2 PL will have SC2 teams + BW teams, or just the latter? Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote: Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?
You can easily get to Masters with just 6pooling/other all-in...
Not on KR. Those low-mid masters NA cheesy nooks would not reach diamond on KR. They'll live in PLatinum. Besides, you can be sure that these guys are doing nothing but pure macro play. |
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| Lukeeze[zR] Switzerland. October 28 2011 20:35. Posts 5784 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 20:32 Daralii wrote: Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 20:30 ZAiNs wrote: Are the best BW players like Flash and JaeDong actually going to play SC2? Or will it just be players who want to play SC2 because their BW results aren't up to par?
The latter, probably. They'll just have support from their BW teams, unlike all the other ex-BW pros that switched. Flash and Jaedong make so much money from BW that it'd be silly of them to switch to SC2.
If they keep the same salary, they can make much more money in sc2. |
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| Doraemon Australia. October 28 2011 20:35. Posts 9540 | Profile Blog # |
On October 28 2011 20:32 ElusoryX wrote: gonna see flash lead the terran dominance :D
doubt we;ll be seeing TBLS play for quite a while yet |
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| Zer atai United States. October 28 2011 20:35. Posts 593 | Profile # | |
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| Oreo7 United States. October 28 2011 20:36. Posts 1607 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Superouman France. October 28 2011 20:36. Posts 1492 | Profile Blog # |
| I've got nerdchills just about thinking the macro of zerg BW A/S class players in sc2, one hotkey for all hatcheries, these guys will jizz on the easy aspect of macro |
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| vojnik Macedonia. October 28 2011 20:36. Posts 916 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 20:35 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 20:32 Daralii wrote: On October 28 2011 20:30 ZAiNs wrote: Are the best BW players like Flash and JaeDong actually going to play SC2? Or will it just be players who want to play SC2 because their BW results aren't up to par?
The latter, probably. They'll just have support from their BW teams, unlike all the other ex-BW pros that switched. Flash and Jaedong make so much money from BW that it'd be silly of them to switch to SC2.
If they keep the same salary, they can make much more money in sc2.
i can bet on that, i will pay whatever whenever to see jaedong play for example!
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| Archvil3 Denmark. October 28 2011 20:36. Posts 967 | Profile # |
We cant deny it anymore, can we? They are comming and it is going to be scary as hell!
My guess is that the current 10-15 best SC2 pro's will be able to keep up with the BW legends. Everyone else will disappear off the face of the planet. One of the biggest advantages the BW pros have is their superior mechanics which is unmatched in SC2. However it is less of an advantage in SC2 although it will still give them an edge it is not going to destroy everyone subpar like it does in BW.
When the transition happens they are probally gonna need a few months to adapt their mechanics which is probally why they start now already. It shouldnt take long though. Then SC2 players got another advantage which is the huge "knowledge database" of timings and details of the game. This is going to take awhile longer but will be completely negated when the game resets at the heart of the swarm release.
As it seems they are getting a hang of the game now but still primarily playing BW still, they will hit the scene like a hurricane when HoTS hits if that is when the full transition happens. |
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| firehand101 Australia. October 28 2011 20:37. Posts 3000 | Profile Blog # |
| The day has finally come, but can you please say the team names instead of saying team A/B/C whatever its driving me nuts! |
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aimaimaim Philippines. October 28 2011 20:37. Posts 2166 | Profile Blog # |
If ever they switch then E-sports is all over for me. I'm not a fan of lag play, shiny-explosive-shit-that-I-can't-understand-what's-going-on-in-the-clash-of-armies and the current Blizzard adding shit every year and not letting the competitive community have it's way. Even if Bisu or Jangbi or Fanta or FBH play .. I do not have problems with SC2 in and of itself. I have problems with blizzard and seeing how this all goes to that point where blizz handles almost everything game-wise then, goodbye BW, it was good while it lasted.
On the flip side of things .. there is that 1TB worth of MBC BW stuff for moktira .. <3Last edit: 2011-10-28 20:39:46 |
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| dakalro Romania. October 28 2011 20:38. Posts 516 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 18:32 ImustnotfeaR wrote: so will the proleague be a direct competitor to GSL, im guessing the players wont be able to play in both because of kespa?
Why? As far as I figure kespa has no rights in SC2, they have to negotiate with Gretech and possibly Blizzard and we know how the BW part finished. They're the new guy to the table and they missed the start. |
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| zeru Sweden. October 28 2011 20:38. Posts 5842 | Profile Blog # |
| So thats why nada gave a small speech during group selections about everyone should be proud of being the first generation of sc2 pros. He knows whats coming, semi implying that most of them arent gonna stand a chance in a while. Last edit: 2011-10-28 20:40:51 |
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| vojnik Macedonia. October 28 2011 20:39. Posts 916 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 20:36 Archvil3 wrote: We cant deny it anymore, can we? They are comming and it is going to be scary as hell!
My guess is that the current 10-15 best SC2 pro's will be able to keep up with the BW legends. Everyone else will disappear off the face of the planet. One of the biggest advantages the BW pros have is their superior mechanics which is unmatched in SC2. However it is less of an advantage in SC2 although it will still give them an edge it is not going to destroy everyone subpar like it does in BW.
When the transition happens they are probally gonna need a few months to adapt their mechanics which is probally why they start now already. It shouldnt take long though. Then SC2 players got another advantage which is the huge "knowledge database" of timings and details of the game. This is going to take awhile longer but will be completely negated when the game resets at the heart of the swarm release.
As it seems they are getting a hang of the game now but still primarily playing BW still, they will hit the scene like a hurricane when HoTS hits if that is when the full transition happens.
altho existing sc2 pros have huge knowledge base on timings and such, the influx of so many insanely good BW pros will have huge impact on the meta game imo, i bet we will see shitloads of new timings and such  |
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| Asturas October 28 2011 20:39. Posts 450 | Profile Blog # |
I really would like to see BW pro players in SC2. There is a good reason. Every time I watch SC2 games, I have this feeling that this is not the top level. I know that MVP, Nestea, HuK and maybe Stephano are just simply great. They know what they do, when you watch their games it is easily seen that they know what they want to do, they have wonderful skill to do what they want to do, and they don't do many mistakes.
On the other hand I am still imagining myself how would Flash and Jaedong play SC2. There was the time I started to believe that maybe they wouldn't be able to play on a same level as in BW. After all it is a different game, easier one, you don't need that great mechanical skills. But then forGG arrived and after not so long he is really good. And he is still not the top BW player.
So yes, I love BW, watching BW masters in play is a pleasure, but I just want to see them in SC2. Maybe I am naive but I believe that it will completely change SC2 scene. New strategies, whole new macro and micro, no place for mistakes, strict Build Orders up to 20 minutes and so on. Naive? Of course. But I want to see this |
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| Lukeeze[zR] Switzerland. October 28 2011 20:40. Posts 5784 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 20:36 Archvil3 wrote: [...]One of the biggest advantages the BW pros have is their superior mechanics which is unmatched in SC2.
I would say their work ethic and flawless dedication will be their biggest advantage. They've a strong structure surrounding them unlike foreigners who practice whenever they want/can. |
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Krehlmar Sweden. October 28 2011 20:41. Posts 1143 | Profile # |
| THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING |
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antilyon Brazil. October 28 2011 20:42. Posts 2487 | Profile Blog # |
| STX buying new equipment is a good sign, I was pretty worried about they getting disbanded. |
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| babysimba October 28 2011 20:43. Posts 798 | Profile # |
| Sc2 might now be as good as bw now. Hopefully, the switch can provide valuable inputs and put pressure on game designers how to properly design the game. 50% balance can be easily done by tweaking unit stats etc, but it doesn't mean that wins are heavily dependent on skill level. Who knows, by the time the 3rd expansion comes it might be even a better game than bw. |
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| Apolo Portugal. October 28 2011 20:43. Posts 1213 | Profile # |
On October 28 2011 18:57 Logros wrote: Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 18:55 Fionn wrote: This is why Nada made his gigantic speech yesterday at group selections. I am sure he is close with a lot of BW players, coaches, etc. and knows that there are tons of monsters practicing SC2 in the shadows right now.
In four months, the entire top class of players could be B-teamers and 98% of Code S players could be out of GSL entirely if these Brood War players switch.
What did Nada say?
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lqulj/nada_to_the_other_code_s_players_you_should_be/
Nada to the other Code S players: "You should be proud of yourselves that you are the first generation of starcraft 2 pro gamers. Be proud you are the first. Always keep that fact in your head and act like a pro gamer."
I bet Nada wanted to finish the sentence: "Think of that even after Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, and all other BW monsters, who are practicing right now, are roflstomping y'all just 6 months after practicing SC2 like you were bronze leaguers. You'll all be the first generation no matter how bad you play right now, even though you'll have to wait for them to arrive for you to realize that. |
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