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| Jackbo Korea (South). July 16 2012 02:32. Posts 102 | Profile # |
No matter how much debate is going on in this thread, I hope Xenox realises that the only reason for it is because we're all so excited about this mod and because we're all trying to give him full support and backing. It's just that some people think it's best to do this by letting him have his peace and release it when he's done, and others think that it's best to do this by being vocal in their excitement.
Locking the thread or not locking it, I don't know which is best, but I'm sure we can all agree that we're very grateful for Xenox's efforts, no matter when the mod comes out.
Xenox fighting! |
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| NewSunshine United States. July 16 2012 02:49. Posts 1015 | Profile # |
On July 16 2012 02:32 Jackbo wrote:
No matter how much debate is going on in this thread, I hope Xenox realises that the only reason for it is because we're all so excited about this mod and because we're all trying to give him full support and backing. It's just that some people think it's best to do this by letting him have his peace and release it when he's done, and others think that it's best to do this by being vocal in their excitement.
Locking the thread or not locking it, I don't know which is best, but I'm sure we can all agree that we're very grateful for Xenox's efforts, no matter when the mod comes out.
Xenox fighting!
I agree, but there are some people in this thread who seem to be acting entitled, expecting the mod to come out quickly and complaining when it takes longer than expected. This is totally uncalled for. The mod will be ready when it's ready, and the person making it has absolutely no obligation to do so. If it keeps up, and I were in his position, I would seriously consider postponing it indefinitely, and make them wait for the beta. The poll earlier on was, in fact, quite rude, and there's no way the beta is going to come out first, if the mod is as far along as XenoX indicates. Not cool guys, tone it down. |
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| Bareleon July 16 2012 03:24. Posts 169 | Profile # |
On July 16 2012 02:49 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 02:32 Jackbo wrote:
No matter how much debate is going on in this thread, I hope Xenox realises that the only reason for it is because we're all so excited about this mod and because we're all trying to give him full support and backing. It's just that some people think it's best to do this by letting him have his peace and release it when he's done, and others think that it's best to do this by being vocal in their excitement.
Locking the thread or not locking it, I don't know which is best, but I'm sure we can all agree that we're very grateful for Xenox's efforts, no matter when the mod comes out.
Xenox fighting!
I agree, but there are some people in this thread who seem to be acting entitled, expecting the mod to come out quickly and complaining when it takes longer than expected. This is totally uncalled for. The mod will be ready when it's ready, and the person making it has absolutely no obligation to do so. If it keeps up, and I were in his position, I would seriously consider postponing it indefinitely, and make them wait for the beta. The poll earlier on was, in fact, quite rude, and there's no way the beta is going to come out first, if the mod is as far along as XenoX indicates. Not cool guys, tone it down.
Why not just update us? That will be a huge help. |
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| Ergo_Proxy July 16 2012 03:36. Posts 27 | Profile # |
Why not just update us? That will be a huge help.
Exactly, we do not complain about it not getting released. We ask kindly that if he tells us it will be no more than 1-2 days and a week passes, at least to maybe update us about what's going on. |
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| NewSunshine United States. July 16 2012 04:09. Posts 1015 | Profile # |
On July 16 2012 03:36 Ergo_Proxy wrote:Exactly, we do not complain about it not getting released. We ask kindly that if he tells us it will be no more than 1-2 days and a week passes, at least to maybe update us about what's going on.
He doesn't have to. You don't know what's keeping him from releasing it, so don't act like "oh, well the least he could do is update". The least he could do is nothing. Be patient, he'll be sure to say something when it's finished, till then cool it. |
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| Ergo_Proxy July 16 2012 04:20. Posts 27 | Profile # |
He doesn't have to. You don't know what's keeping him from releasing it, so don't act like "oh, well the least he could do is update". The least he could do is nothing. Be patient, he'll be sure to say something when it's finished, till then cool it.
He dosen't have to, but does that mean i cannot ask him to update us if he can when his timing is off? if he wants to great and if he dosen't that's ok too. I just asked him to update us - he can do what ever he wants. |
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| redviper Pakistan. July 16 2012 07:29. Posts 1835 | Profile # |
On July 15 2012 22:52 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 07:28 redviper wrote:I want him to publish it when he is happy with it. Its his IP he should be the one who decides when and if anything happens.
In what way is it his Intellectual property? It's him making a copy of a blizzard game using Blizzard's software that can be played within a blizzard game and he made it under an agreement which explicitly states that it is not his intellectual property, as per the TOS. It's his project yes, but not his Intellectual property.
You are mistaken. Blizzard's TOS is
Map Editor.
The Game includes a program that allows you to create custom levels, maps, scenarios or other materials for use in connection with the Game (the “Map Editor”). The following terms are specific to the Map Editor:
Map Content.
You understand that the content required to create or modify STARCRAFT® II Modified Maps (as defined below) is included in the STARCRAFT® II game client, and that all such content is owned by Blizzard and governed by this Agreement. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT ALL MAPS, LEVELS AND OTHER CONTENT CREATED OR MODIFIED USING THE MAP EDITOR (COLLECTIVELY, “MODIFIED MAPS”) ARE AND SHALL REMAIN THE SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF BLIZZARD. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, YOU HEREBY ASSIGN TO BLIZZARD ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS, TITLE AND INTEREST IN AND TO ALL MODIFIED MAPS, AND AGREE THAT YOU WILL EXECUTE FUTURE ASSIGNMENTS PROMPTLY UPON RECEIVING SUCH A REQUEST FROM BLIZZARD.
User Content Restrictions.
You represent and warrant that neither the content you use to create any Modified Maps, nor the compilation, arrangement or display of such content (collectively, the “User Content”), infringes or will infringe any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret or other intellectual property right of any third party. You further represent and warrant that you will not use or contribute User Content that is unlawful, tortious, defamatory, obscene, invasive of the privacy of another person, threatening, harassing, abusive, hateful, racist or otherwise objectionable or inappropriate.
Service and Terms of Use.
Only map content is Blizzard property. The user content (scripts, actors, any new images etc) are XenoX's property.
Though I can't believe this outrageous pedantry is being brought up. Suppose its not his IP at all, but it is his work. Does that make your panties be less bunched up? |
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| saltygrapes July 16 2012 08:26. Posts 156 | Profile # |
| I don't understand why there isn't anyone else stepping up to help. Anyone with any basic knowledge of the data editor should be able to do this project in a couple of days |
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| -NegativeZero- United States. July 16 2012 08:34. Posts 586 | Profile # |
On July 16 2012 08:26 saltygrapes wrote:
I don't understand why there isn't anyone else stepping up to help. Anyone with any basic knowledge of the data editor should be able to do this project in a couple of days
go ahead then, step up and help, i think we'd all appreciate it. |
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| StarscreamG1 Portugal. July 16 2012 18:09. Posts 804 | Profile # |
| Nobody demanding Xenox to do it. But if he says he's doing it, then that only misses spider mines, then that's test time...but the mod never gets out, it's normal to people start react. |
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| Yonnua United Kingdom. July 16 2012 18:31. Posts 1039 | Profile Blog # |
On July 16 2012 07:29 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 22:52 Yonnua wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:28 redviper wrote:I want him to publish it when he is happy with it. Its his IP he should be the one who decides when and if anything happens.
In what way is it his Intellectual property? It's him making a copy of a blizzard game using Blizzard's software that can be played within a blizzard game and he made it under an agreement which explicitly states that it is not his intellectual property, as per the TOS. It's his project yes, but not his Intellectual property.
You are mistaken. Blizzard's TOS is
Show nested quote +Map Editor.
The Game includes a program that allows you to create custom levels, maps, scenarios or other materials for use in connection with the Game (the “Map Editor”). The following terms are specific to the Map Editor:
Map Content.
You understand that the content required to create or modify STARCRAFT® II Modified Maps (as defined below) is included in the STARCRAFT® II game client, and that all such content is owned by Blizzard and governed by this Agreement. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT ALL MAPS, LEVELS AND OTHER CONTENT CREATED OR MODIFIED USING THE MAP EDITOR (COLLECTIVELY, “MODIFIED MAPS”) ARE AND SHALL REMAIN THE SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF BLIZZARD. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, YOU HEREBY ASSIGN TO BLIZZARD ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS, TITLE AND INTEREST IN AND TO ALL MODIFIED MAPS, AND AGREE THAT YOU WILL EXECUTE FUTURE ASSIGNMENTS PROMPTLY UPON RECEIVING SUCH A REQUEST FROM BLIZZARD.
User Content Restrictions.
You represent and warrant that neither the content you use to create any Modified Maps, nor the compilation, arrangement or display of such content (collectively, the “User Content”), infringes or will infringe any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret or other intellectual property right of any third party. You further represent and warrant that you will not use or contribute User Content that is unlawful, tortious, defamatory, obscene, invasive of the privacy of another person, threatening, harassing, abusive, hateful, racist or otherwise objectionable or inappropriate.
Service and Terms of Use.
Only map content is Blizzard property. The user content (scripts, actors, any new images etc) are XenoX's property. Though I can't believe this outrageous pedantry is being brought up. Suppose its not his IP at all, but it is his work. Does that make your panties be less bunched up?
Now I appreciate that you may not have legal training but the phrase "ALL MAPS, LEVELS AND OTHER CONTENT CREATED OR MODIFIED USING THE MAP EDITOR ... ARE ... THE SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF BLIZZARD" means that any Mod is the property of Blizzard. |
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| StarOFdadA Hong Kong. July 16 2012 19:03. Posts 27 | Profile # |
Now I appreciate that you may not have legal training but the phrase "ALL MAPS, LEVELS AND OTHER CONTENT CREATED OR MODIFIED USING THE MAP EDITOR ... ARE ... THE SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF BLIZZARD" means that any Mod is the property of Blizzard.
No matter how, XenoX101 should tell us the result. I shall wait two more days. |
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| Jackbo Korea (South). July 16 2012 19:53. Posts 102 | Profile # |
On July 16 2012 08:26 saltygrapes wrote:
I don't understand why there isn't anyone else stepping up to help. Anyone with any basic knowledge of the data editor should be able to do this project in a couple of days
I think that might be the problem - not many people DO have a basic knowledge of the data editor. Most people dabble in the map editor, I think, but the data editor is another thing entirely. I know how to throw a map together, but the data editor seems incomprehensible and opaque to me. |
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| Ergo_Proxy July 17 2012 09:27. Posts 27 | Profile # |
| XenoX101 any updates man? do you have new problems with the project? |
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| WhiteKnight New Zealand. July 17 2012 10:05. Posts 134 | Profile # |
Ladies and Gentleman I think we got trolled.
Just kidding, it is odd that he said he had like nothing left to do on it but a bit of polish and it's still not out yet. Would make a perfect Blizzard employee wouldn't he... :/ |
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| SSVnormandy France. July 17 2012 23:32. Posts 124 | Profile # |
He is a secret agent of blizzard! they want us to get so mad when they will eventually bring out the Beta. We will be like dogs asking for beta key !! At the end they will give beta keys to those who suscribe a new year of Wow!!
that's the plan for sure! Blizzaaaaaard ur so evil !!!
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| Bareleon July 18 2012 11:47. Posts 169 | Profile # |
| Something must of happened since he had yet to give us an update. |
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| -NegativeZero- United States. July 18 2012 12:07. Posts 586 | Profile # |
On July 18 2012 11:47 Bareleon wrote:
Something must of happened since he had yet to give us an update.
He's probably just busy with something else, this mod (hopefully) isn't his entire life |
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| Cheekio United States. July 18 2012 22:53. Posts 34 | Profile # |
| It has been a pretty significant amount of time since the last update. I guess now would be a good time to start looking at alternative modding groups. |
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| Ergo_Proxy July 19 2012 09:18. Posts 27 | Profile # |
Something must of happened since he had yet to give us an update.
Indeed this is really strange. |
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