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The rules say that there's a colon ":" in the ##Vote thingy but the examples do not use a colon. What are we supposed to do?
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Does anybody know if Zona is around to start this game tomorrow?
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On September 20 2011 03:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 03:04 syllogism wrote: It's night and you were only asked to clarify something. Saying that you are about to be bandwagoned seems like an overreaction to me, no? Tunnelling WBG as mafia makes sense because, assuming that he is a third party, you don't really get into trouble for it and you can do it with some real conviction given that you don't have to make up reasons for finding him scummy. I'm annoyed that I'm in the hot seat for picking the "wrong" bandwagon when the one everyone else went onto flipped out a pretty good power role. I'm also overreacting because WBG's attitude and play style annoys me so much I seriously considered quitting this game yesterday. I'll cool down but I'll never play another game with him, i know that much.
On November 04 2011 11:54 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote: Voting System:
This game uses a Majority Multi-Lynch system. During the day, any player may vote for as many other players as he or she wishes. If at any point during the day over half of players alive are voting for a particular player, that player will be condemned to the lynch and will die at the end of that day. It is possible for zero, one, or multiple players to be lynched at the end of any particular day. If you believe you have identified a game breaking strategy due to this alternative lynch system, keep in mind that safeguards have been put in place to prevent degenerate strategies from succeeding for the town. There are hazards in store for the town that lynches too many players in a particular day.
BALLER! /in please ##signup
On November 10 2011 01:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ##Signup
(sorry but it's nice to see that you've made up!)
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why would anybody shoot me i dont see it im a nice guy
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I can't wait until this game starts I am hoping that maybe it will start this weekend
Also, it's sad when all threads in forum are yellow but that's not the case anymore now!
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Policy lynching is stupid stupid stupid and if we policy lynch ANYTHING it will ONLY help mafia. The day is 72 hours long and you have to post one every 24 hours so lurking should be somewhat dealt with that way. If we lynch lurky people they HAVE to be scummy too, you don't just lynch blindly into inactivity.
Tunneling can be pretty powerful, it is a tool to get a read it should just be used right. Town shouldn't let itself get sidetracked if player A decides that they want to tunnel player B, look at what is happening. Don't just say "lole~(tm) u r tunnl means u r scum". If you want to lynch either a lurker or a liar you ALWAYS need to post analysis of why they are scummy too.
I like what Cyber_Cheese said, Hiroruby has a lot of focus on how to play as mafia. Also, he supports a strict lynch all lurkers policy which, as I have already said, is extremely pro-mafia for painfully obvious reasons.
The multi-lynch system should be used for lynching multiple scum.
##Vote Hiroruby
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On November 15 2011 17:43 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 17:36 prplhz wrote: Policy lynching is stupid stupid stupid and if we policy lynch ANYTHING it will ONLY help mafia. The day is 72 hours long and you have to post one every 24 hours so lurking should be somewhat dealt with that way. If we lynch lurky people they HAVE to be scummy too, you don't just lynch blindly into inactivity.
Tunneling can be pretty powerful, it is a tool to get a read it should just be used right. Town shouldn't let itself get sidetracked if player A decides that they want to tunnel player B, look at what is happening. Don't just say "lole~(tm) u r tunnl means u r scum". If you want to lynch either a lurker or a liar you ALWAYS need to post analysis of why they are scummy too.
I like what Cyber_Cheese said, Hiroruby has a lot of focus on how to play as mafia. Also, he supports a strict lynch all lurkers policy which, as I have already said, is extremely pro-mafia for painfully obvious reasons.
The multi-lynch system should be used for lynching multiple scum.
##Vote Hiroruby Why do you disagree with Lynch all Liars?
I think town shouldn't lie and we should discourage that. Look no further than Team Melee Mini Mafia where the esteemed GMarshal provided a prime example of why a strict lynch-all-liars policy isn't always the greatest as it would have lost town that game.
If you are town: do not lie under any circumstances. If you are town and somebody else lies: don't just lynch them because of that alone, even though we have a seemingly unlimited number of lynches at our disposal.
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If any of you bothered to read my posts I never said that people should lie their asses off, on the contrary. I said that lynch-all-liars can be bad and it would have been in TMMM because GMarshal was a lying town. He shouldn't have lied, but two wrongs doesn't make a right and lying isn't damning evidence by itself. sandroba made the right call in not lynching GMarshal 'cause at the end of the day, this is a game about lynching scum, not about lynching liars. Don't lie and don't hide behind policies instead of contributing with your opinion.
Also, I jumped on the 0-person bandwagon? Rofl. I liked your post Cyber_Cheese even though I thought it was weird that you didn't vote in it, but that new post of yours was all shit. Sorry.
Hiroruby says he supports a strict lynch-all-lurkers policy right here:
On November 15 2011 13:43 Hiroruby wrote: Lurkers: should be killed, and that should be made clear right away. If you know you will die if you lurk, then you will not lurk unless you are mafia, and that should just get you killed. Lurking helps no one, gives nothing to either validate or disprove a person, just leaves a cloud of ambiguity and distrust. Lurkers simply must die as they are either town that are usless, thus hurting us, or are mafia.
He says that even if lurkers are town, they should get lynched. I mean come on.
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I don't really know about Sabin010 it is very unfortunate that he said that but on the other hand he doesn't support lurkers lynches and he supports liar lynches which I think wouldn't be a scum's stance. It is pretty simple, if we start lynching lurkers then scum will start talking and we will just be lynching into busy townies most likely.
About lurkers, we have a seemingly unlimited number of lynches at our disposal and everybody has to post every 24 hours as it says in the OP. If we don't lynch any lurkers day1 we can still lynch them day2 and by that point we'll have like 6-7 posts from everybody. If they're all useless one liners, then lets go ahead and kill a few of them but there's no reason to lynch them prematurely when we can just postpone it and lynch them later. Later we will have more material and the lynch will not be based solely on their lurking but also on their being useless for a long period of time.
For people who did not notice it the OP says that you must post in this thread every 24 hours
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On November 16 2011 15:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 08:10 prplhz wrote: I don't really know about Sabin010 it is very unfortunate that he said that but on the other hand he doesn't support lurkers lynches and he supports liar lynches which I think wouldn't be a scum's stance. It is pretty simple, if we start lynching lurkers then scum will start talking and we will just be lynching into busy townies most likely.
About lurkers, we have a seemingly unlimited number of lynches at our disposal and everybody has to post every 24 hours as it says in the OP. If we don't lynch any lurkers day1 we can still lynch them day2 and by that point we'll have like 6-7 posts from everybody. If they're all useless one liners, then lets go ahead and kill a few of them but there's no reason to lynch them prematurely when we can just postpone it and lynch them later. Later we will have more material and the lynch will not be based solely on their lurking but also on their being useless for a long period of time.
For people who did not notice it the OP says that you must post in this thread every 24 hours The bolded part. Explain how you know what mafia are thinking and what stances they are taking. Also explain to me how lynching lurkers with our multi-lynch means we will hit only town with all our lynches. On not lynching lurkers day 1, if we show leniency for lurking now, then it sets a precedent for days to come. Waiting for lurkers to provide enough content to decide their alignment one way or the other is exactly the problem with lurkers and can take weeks. Show no tolerance by lynching them straight from day 1, and they'll realise we're serious.
Lol because if you start to lynch lurkers then scum will stop lurking and we'll just end up lynching people who are busy doing their homework, I think I already wrote that in this thread, don't you read this thread?
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On November 16 2011 16:23 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 16:10 prplhz wrote:On November 16 2011 15:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 16 2011 08:10 prplhz wrote: I don't really know about Sabin010 it is very unfortunate that he said that but on the other hand he doesn't support lurkers lynches and he supports liar lynches which I think wouldn't be a scum's stance. It is pretty simple, if we start lynching lurkers then scum will start talking and we will just be lynching into busy townies most likely.
About lurkers, we have a seemingly unlimited number of lynches at our disposal and everybody has to post every 24 hours as it says in the OP. If we don't lynch any lurkers day1 we can still lynch them day2 and by that point we'll have like 6-7 posts from everybody. If they're all useless one liners, then lets go ahead and kill a few of them but there's no reason to lynch them prematurely when we can just postpone it and lynch them later. Later we will have more material and the lynch will not be based solely on their lurking but also on their being useless for a long period of time.
For people who did not notice it the OP says that you must post in this thread every 24 hours The bolded part. Explain how you know what mafia are thinking and what stances they are taking. Also explain to me how lynching lurkers with our multi-lynch means we will hit only town with all our lynches. On not lynching lurkers day 1, if we show leniency for lurking now, then it sets a precedent for days to come. Waiting for lurkers to provide enough content to decide their alignment one way or the other is exactly the problem with lurkers and can take weeks. Show no tolerance by lynching them straight from day 1, and they'll realise we're serious. Lol because if you start to lynch lurkers then scum will stop lurking and we'll just end up lynching people who are busy doing their homework, I think I already wrote that in this thread, don't you read this thread? I don't get it, are you trying to claim that only town has homework, and only scum will become active?
Rofl so you want to lynch people who has homework based on the fact that scum also has homework?
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On November 16 2011 16:50 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 16:39 prplhz wrote:On November 16 2011 16:23 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 16 2011 16:10 prplhz wrote:On November 16 2011 15:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 16 2011 08:10 prplhz wrote: I don't really know about Sabin010 it is very unfortunate that he said that but on the other hand he doesn't support lurkers lynches and he supports liar lynches which I think wouldn't be a scum's stance. It is pretty simple, if we start lynching lurkers then scum will start talking and we will just be lynching into busy townies most likely.
About lurkers, we have a seemingly unlimited number of lynches at our disposal and everybody has to post every 24 hours as it says in the OP. If we don't lynch any lurkers day1 we can still lynch them day2 and by that point we'll have like 6-7 posts from everybody. If they're all useless one liners, then lets go ahead and kill a few of them but there's no reason to lynch them prematurely when we can just postpone it and lynch them later. Later we will have more material and the lynch will not be based solely on their lurking but also on their being useless for a long period of time.
For people who did not notice it the OP says that you must post in this thread every 24 hours The bolded part. Explain how you know what mafia are thinking and what stances they are taking. Also explain to me how lynching lurkers with our multi-lynch means we will hit only town with all our lynches. On not lynching lurkers day 1, if we show leniency for lurking now, then it sets a precedent for days to come. Waiting for lurkers to provide enough content to decide their alignment one way or the other is exactly the problem with lurkers and can take weeks. Show no tolerance by lynching them straight from day 1, and they'll realise we're serious. Lol because if you start to lynch lurkers then scum will stop lurking and we'll just end up lynching people who are busy doing their homework, I think I already wrote that in this thread, don't you read this thread? I don't get it, are you trying to claim that only town has homework, and only scum will become active? Rofl so you want to lynch people who has homework based on the fact that scum also has homework? Lynching lurkers discourages people from being abolutely useless to us, and not even providing enough material to make reads. If lynching some lurkers forces the lurking mafia to post, we have a higher chance of identifying them correctly. On the number of lynches, we should consider three a maximum. I figure we would have just been given a double lynch if bad stuff happened past two.
If we ignore lurkers day1 then we will have 6-7 posts of theirs by day2 lynch. Then they will not be lurkers anymore and we can start discussing what they have posted. Also, arguing about lynch-all-lurkers defeats the purpose of the policy itself as it will allow people to lurk even harder. But not in this game, because by day2 lynch they will have 6-7 posts anyway. Am I getting through to you at all?
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Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too
##Vote Kenpachi
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On November 16 2011 18:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 18:09 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 16 2011 18:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:The top part of my previous post was in response to Harbringer. On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote: to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. We can't differentiate between lurkers too heavily based purely on meta. If someone is lurking and being useless, they should be a valid candidate for lynch, especially if they are good and should have known better. Killing someone that is renowned to be a good player sends out a stronger anti-lurker message, which is the whole point in doing it. This is why Coag is a great choice for lynch at the moment, as opposed to someone like Sinani. Giving people a free pass on reputation leads to stupid things like Palmar managing to win in LotR mafia as third party while basically not even trying. Speaking of Palmar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=87086Useless mass of one liners. So, leaving someone alive who has no potential to be of any use (sinani) is favorable to leaving someone alive who has great potential for use? (Coag)? Either way if they're still useless by tomorrow they need to die. The difference between sinani and Palmar/Coag is that sinani never does anything, and Palmar/Coag are actually useful as town. Are you saying that Coag is in absolutely no danger of being lynched even if he continues to lurk? That seems to defeat the point of threatening to lynch lurkers. By bringing up the good players as the best choices, we can get them to stop lurking day 1, and prove why they are indeed worth keeping. Add to that the mafia might choose to pick them off for being good in meta, not wanting them around to actually pick up their game. The whole point in lynching lurkers is to discourage other lurkers. What incentive do these 'good' people have to stop lurking if they know they are safe because other lurkers will die first?
So assuming that they're going to keep lurking, you'd rather lynch Coagulation than sinani? Or would you rather lynch both?
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You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right?
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Yes, no one will pay attention to your analysis because of my one-line, muahahaha! Or maybe all the new people in this game will read twice before they trust you unconditionally. You always set yourself up as townie prophet, coming down from the mountain to converse with the plebs for exactly 3 posts before you retire up there again to meditate and achieve endless insight in the game. A lot of people may fall for this, I'm just saying that if you're new maybe you should read twice before listening to Palmar.
Also, I'm not getting lynched day1, wtfux???
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I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR DRAZERK BECAUSE HE IS SCUM
##Vote Drazerk
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NO CASE NEEDED DRAZERK IS SCUM
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START VOTING DRAZERK HIRORUBY AND CYBER_CHEESE
STOP VOTING LANAIA AND CHAOSER
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
ALSO WTF ABOUT KENPACHI GG SON SORRY FOR MY VOTE
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