| Sennin Belgium. February 29 2012 22:09. Posts 50 | Profile # |
Couldn't Katu just do a public apology and be suspended for a month?
It's something that will be forgotten once he's back after a month, especially if he does a better job then before. |
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| Autobeat United States. March 01 2012 00:53. Posts 51 | Profile # |
| Meh, a caster had some opinions. I wish more people would get some exposure to the SF4 and MvC3 tourney commentators for comparison. I almost prefer that the SF and Marvel guys are less reserved in their criticism and dont have to act so universally lovey of all the players.. If they see a bad play or think something stupid is going on they call it out. Wish we got more of that in the SC2 scene. |
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 Leifish March 01 2012 02:08. Posts 851 | Profile # |
| Bullshit to fire the guy. |
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| Corsica Ukraine. March 01 2012 08:57. Posts 1768 | Profile # |
lol if i would be dragon, i would just say : screw you Katu. Thats it ( insert Yao Ming Face)
I feel like people care to much about this...oh wait its sc2...its drama... |
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| dacimvrl Vatican City State. March 01 2012 09:48. Posts 538 | Profile # |
On February 29 2012 22:09 Sennin wrote:
Couldn't Katu just do a public apology and be suspended for a month?
It's something that will be forgotten once he's back after a month, especially if he does a better job then before.
he did make an "apology" thread on reddit, but it was half-assed, and basically said, i am only apologizing because there's an outcry. I don't care, EAT IT. |
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| EienShinwa United States. March 01 2012 10:46. Posts 651 | Profile # |
| Punishment has been delivered, lessons have been learned, guidelines have been put. Moving on. |
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| Beanypepper March 02 2012 12:14. Posts 1 | Profile # |
| I do not agree, it was simply the pressure of the loud minority, he said so himself that he was trolling at the time. I agree that a suspension would be much more suitable, especially because he was "trash talking" about Dragon, but how the loud minority trashes him so badly. It does not seem far to fire someone just because of a joke, and after he practically worked for hours for free, just to cast |
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| frostydisco United States. March 03 2012 08:15. Posts 11 | Profile # |
Um...firing Katu was kind of harsh. I agree with what everyone else has been saying about just suspending him for a month or something as "punishment."
I'm a daily watcher, and Katu was one of the people who brought really good personality to Playhem. I do think that this was a mistake on his part and becoming a bit too biased (in the wrong way), and he may have been getting kind of cocky. But as long as he realizes he has to watch what he says, he would have learned his lesson right? But like someone else who may have suggested it, there could've been internal stuff going on that we aren't aware of.
Anyway, my 2-cents - as a Playhem regular - is that Katu was fun to listen to, and would like to see him given another chance. |
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| namste Finland. March 04 2012 03:57. Posts 2101 | Profile # |
| Is it really this impossible to find the brackets for on going tournaments or do I just fail miserably? I just can't find them anywhere :D |
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| godulous United States. March 06 2012 10:12. Posts 337 | Profile Blog # |
On March 04 2012 03:57 namste wrote:
Is it really this impossible to find the brackets for on going tournaments or do I just fail miserably? I just can't find them anywhere :D
You can find the brackets here:
http://playhem.com/#!/tourneys |
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| Firex62 Sweden. March 11 2012 08:29. Posts 2 | Profile # |
| i think the mod Astroorion should stop being so cocky in the stream chat, it's like he thinks he can do anything just cuz he is mod. |
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| Firex62 Sweden. March 11 2012 20:21. Posts 2 | Profile # |
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| Areon United States. March 15 2012 05:27. Posts 272 | Profile # |
| I thought Playhem would have a word with their casters but apparently they're still being jackasses. I can't watch these tourneys anymore, today is the first time I've had to listen to Zoia and my god is that guy obnoxious. Okay regardless of whether you like ZvZ or not if you openly say "why are zerg players so bad" you just look like a jackass. What the heck is his problem? Figured Playhem would be turning over a new leaf but looks like they still have arrogant jerks that insult the very players they're casting. How does that make any sense? No, that wasn't a joke, and if it was that was the worst joke I've ever heard on a stream. If you want some decent casting watch literally any other stream because Playhem is still crap, and pretty much the only stream I've witnessed casters openly insulting their players. |
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| Xorphene United Kingdom. March 15 2012 07:38. Posts 382 | Profile # |
| Did Playhem stop releasing the replays of the daily tournaments too? |
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| Zoia United States. March 16 2012 02:37. Posts 393 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 05:27 Areon wrote:
I thought Playhem would have a word with their casters but apparently they're still being jackasses. I can't watch these tourneys anymore, today is the first time I've had to listen to Zoia and my god is that guy obnoxious. Okay regardless of whether you like ZvZ or not if you openly say "why are zerg players so bad" you just look like a jackass. What the heck is his problem? Figured Playhem would be turning over a new leaf but looks like they still have arrogant jerks that insult the very players they're casting. How does that make any sense? No, that wasn't a joke, and if it was that was the worst joke I've ever heard on a stream. If you want some decent casting watch literally any other stream because Playhem is still crap, and pretty much the only stream I've witnessed casters openly insulting their players.
First of all thank you for the feed back its suprising how little people actually will post something. Firstly at the start of the cast I had said that ZvZ was my least favorite matchup. Everyone has one and it was brought up during a discussion Jorosar and I were having. From that moment on chat, my cocaster, and the admins were bringing up the amount of ZvZs that we were actually doing ending up being around 17. It was obvious trolling from everyone and I was going along with it. I was joking around with everyone and we were having a good time with it so I'm sorry you took it seriously. I know right someone saying LOL JUST KIDDING but hey thats the truth of it. I get paid less than a dollar per hour to cast I do this because I love it there is no way I would invest this much time into casting if I didn't love everything about it.
Regards to the statement of me saying "why are zerg players so bad". I am an analytical caster and I tend to be very blunt. My style focuses on pointing out the flaws in players builds so my viewers can see what mistakes players make and how to improve off of it. Now I remember when I said this and you can quote anything and make it seem bad out of context. However even in context it was still a little blunt. I come from BW where players played perfectly so when I look at people play SC2 I can tend to be a little harsh when I see the lower level players play. It is the main thing I am working towards improving myself as a caster. Most of the games we had casted that day were full of several mistakes that led to very back and forth games. I would like to state that when I had said this I had followed up with how come zergs never spread their banelings out to avoid losing 4 banelings to 2. It wasn't like I said "LOL THESE KIDS BLOW" and then changed the subject.
My style of casting gets a lot of haters and I'm working on improving the way I phrase things to be a little more diplomatic. For those who have seen me cast and know my style they understand that I'm not trying to shit all over the players I just look at things a little differently. Most casters try and highlight the good in players play while I focus on what they need to improve on. I host a show where the entire goal of the show is to teach the viewers how to improve their play. When I coach my students I like to focus more on what they are doing wrong and that translates into my casting. Like I said I tend to be very blunt but it is something I am working on.
I appreciate the feedback and hope you read this. I'm not some asshole who hates the game and hates what he does. I can be very aggresive when I cast but again like I said I am trying to improve on that. Last edit: 2012-03-16 02:38:31 |
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| Robin_thewonder March 16 2012 05:22. Posts 144 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 02:37 Zoia wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 05:27 Areon wrote:
I thought Playhem would have a word with their casters but apparently they're still being jackasses. I can't watch these tourneys anymore, today is the first time I've had to listen to Zoia and my god is that guy obnoxious. Okay regardless of whether you like ZvZ or not if you openly say "why are zerg players so bad" you just look like a jackass. What the heck is his problem? Figured Playhem would be turning over a new leaf but looks like they still have arrogant jerks that insult the very players they're casting. How does that make any sense? No, that wasn't a joke, and if it was that was the worst joke I've ever heard on a stream. If you want some decent casting watch literally any other stream because Playhem is still crap, and pretty much the only stream I've witnessed casters openly insulting their players.
First of all thank you for the feed back its suprising how little people actually will post something. Firstly at the start of the cast I had said that ZvZ was my least favorite matchup. Everyone has one and it was brought up during a discussion Jorosar and I were having. From that moment on chat, my cocaster, and the admins were bringing up the amount of ZvZs that we were actually doing ending up being around 17. It was obvious trolling from everyone and I was going along with it. I was joking around with everyone and we were having a good time with it so I'm sorry you took it seriously. I know right someone saying LOL JUST KIDDING but hey thats the truth of it. I get paid less than a dollar per hour to cast I do this because I love it there is no way I would invest this much time into casting if I didn't love everything about it. Regards to the statement of me saying "why are zerg players so bad". I am an analytical caster and I tend to be very blunt. My style focuses on pointing out the flaws in players builds so my viewers can see what mistakes players make and how to improve off of it. Now I remember when I said this and you can quote anything and make it seem bad out of context. However even in context it was still a little blunt. I come from BW where players played perfectly so when I look at people play SC2 I can tend to be a little harsh when I see the lower level players play. It is the main thing I am working towards improving myself as a caster. Most of the games we had casted that day were full of several mistakes that led to very back and forth games. I would like to state that when I had said this I had followed up with how come zergs never spread their banelings out to avoid losing 4 banelings to 2. It wasn't like I said "LOL THESE KIDS BLOW" and then changed the subject. My style of casting gets a lot of haters and I'm working on improving the way I phrase things to be a little more diplomatic. For those who have seen me cast and know my style they understand that I'm not trying to shit all over the players I just look at things a little differently. Most casters try and highlight the good in players play while I focus on what they need to improve on. I host a show where the entire goal of the show is to teach the viewers how to improve their play. When I coach my students I like to focus more on what they are doing wrong and that translates into my casting. Like I said I tend to be very blunt but it is something I am working on. I appreciate the feedback and hope you read this. I'm not some asshole who hates the game and hates what he does. I can be very aggresive when I cast but again like I said I am trying to improve on that.
I think you're the worst caster I have ever seen. I will no longer share my twitter with you. Good day |
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| Bonkarooni United States. March 16 2012 08:37. Posts 323 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:22 Robin_thewonder wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 02:37 Zoia wrote:
On March 15 2012 05:27 Areon wrote:
I thought Playhem would have a word with their casters but apparently they're still being jackasses. I can't watch these tourneys anymore, today is the first time I've had to listen to Zoia and my god is that guy obnoxious. Okay regardless of whether you like ZvZ or not if you openly say "why are zerg players so bad" you just look like a jackass. What the heck is his problem? Figured Playhem would be turning over a new leaf but looks like they still have arrogant jerks that insult the very players they're casting. How does that make any sense? No, that wasn't a joke, and if it was that was the worst joke I've ever heard on a stream. If you want some decent casting watch literally any other stream because Playhem is still crap, and pretty much the only stream I've witnessed casters openly insulting their players.
First of all thank you for the feed back its suprising how little people actually will post something. Firstly at the start of the cast I had said that ZvZ was my least favorite matchup. Everyone has one and it was brought up during a discussion Jorosar and I were having. From that moment on chat, my cocaster, and the admins were bringing up the amount of ZvZs that we were actually doing ending up being around 17. It was obvious trolling from everyone and I was going along with it. I was joking around with everyone and we were having a good time with it so I'm sorry you took it seriously. I know right someone saying LOL JUST KIDDING but hey thats the truth of it. I get paid less than a dollar per hour to cast I do this because I love it there is no way I would invest this much time into casting if I didn't love everything about it. Regards to the statement of me saying "why are zerg players so bad". I am an analytical caster and I tend to be very blunt. My style focuses on pointing out the flaws in players builds so my viewers can see what mistakes players make and how to improve off of it. Now I remember when I said this and you can quote anything and make it seem bad out of context. However even in context it was still a little blunt. I come from BW where players played perfectly so when I look at people play SC2 I can tend to be a little harsh when I see the lower level players play. It is the main thing I am working towards improving myself as a caster. Most of the games we had casted that day were full of several mistakes that led to very back and forth games. I would like to state that when I had said this I had followed up with how come zergs never spread their banelings out to avoid losing 4 banelings to 2. It wasn't like I said "LOL THESE KIDS BLOW" and then changed the subject. My style of casting gets a lot of haters and I'm working on improving the way I phrase things to be a little more diplomatic. For those who have seen me cast and know my style they understand that I'm not trying to shit all over the players I just look at things a little differently. Most casters try and highlight the good in players play while I focus on what they need to improve on. I host a show where the entire goal of the show is to teach the viewers how to improve their play. When I coach my students I like to focus more on what they are doing wrong and that translates into my casting. Like I said I tend to be very blunt but it is something I am working on. I appreciate the feedback and hope you read this. I'm not some asshole who hates the game and hates what he does. I can be very aggresive when I cast but again like I said I am trying to improve on that.
I think you're the worst caster I have ever seen. I will no longer share my twitter with you. Good day
Ahh Robin he's pretty average. I mean all the playhem casters are average at best, right? |
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| Slayer- United States. March 16 2012 11:59. Posts 98 | Profile # |
idea for playhem- OFFICIAL PLAYHEM MAPs
One thing i've noticed from my conversion from Warcraft 3 to sc2 is that Warcraft 3 pro maps had sponsors banners as decals ontop of crucial points where casters are looking constantly, for example, we'd see a banner imprinted onto the map of say, intel, right on each base's natural. These are purely cosmetic and would not change gameplay other than sponsors being seen,
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| Unfortunate Canada. March 16 2012 11:59. Posts 128 | Profile Blog # |
| I still want to cast. Still think people would beg for you guys back if I had to cast. |
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| Hxig United States. March 16 2012 12:00. Posts 40 | Profile # |
If this is the feedback thread, then here is mine....
Awesome cast, fun to watch, but I personally like it if the cussing was toned down a bit just because I have family near me so often when I'm watching esports and such. Otherwise...Webcamz ploxzor! :D |
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