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[G] Grandmaster by 6pooling, how to

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  Bad_Habit   Germany. November 09 2011 01:35. Posts 243Profile # 
Hello Teamliquid,



A lot of people would consider 6pooling as a strat that everyone can perform.

That might be true. Not everyone can macro, but everyone can build a pool on 200 minerals.
Everyone can attack-move the lings into the enemies base too.

The question is, can they win with it? Sure, from time to time they will take a map only to idle in bronze-gold with 6pooling every single game; sounds like fun.

This is where I come in. My friends said that it isn’t possible to get into Masters League with only 6pooling, so I bet against them and said I could get into Grandmasters League just by 6pooling and dronerushing (We also included 7pooling later on).

Knowing how the game works and by making my own variants of early rushes (Some even say my ZvZ build is imbalanced) combined with my decent micro I gathered from wc3 I got started on the work ahead of me.

I’ve played a ton of 6pools up until now, and I fell in love with the strat. I really enjoy when people flame me and pretend I’m the BM guy just because I played 6pool (how does that make sense? O_O)

I went into Grandmasters League in NA last season. Everyone who doubted me just said things like "uhh NA sucks, there are no good player its like being platinum in Europe."

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/FameToFlame

I didn’t play to much anymore, only teamgames with some friends basically and had almost forgotten about the bet then. I was pissed because my hard word didn’t count for [insert bad word]. Blizzard made one patch after another, maps getting bigger and bigger and I guess you guys know what it means for 6pools when close positions is disabled -_-

Still recently my good friend actionjesuz was in a tournament and I was watching him play against some other zerg. He got raped pretty bad on the first map. After the match I explained my strat very quick and told him what to take care of, etc., and he ended up winning 2-1. I also got my motivation back, and I started to play more serious (serious 6pool YEY!) again.

Now I hope those [bad word again] accept once and for all that I won my bet. I had a good run on Europe since then. When the ladder reset happened I soon showed up to be #1 with 200 points leading the 2nd place in my division and was easily in the top 30 in Europe.

When GM started I had close to 900 points and was searching for a game, found a cute little Terran (nfteam.breach), whom I have beaten quite often with 6pools so I decided to go for the imbalanced dronerush! Even Whitera said "too strong zerg drones" so how would there be a chance that my poor Terran opponent would win this game? Said and done. 15 SCVs aren’t able to beat 12 drones and I quickly saw the screen "blabla congratulations, your in grandmaster blabla"

thats the game: http://drop.sc/54901

I’m going to upload a few new replays (if requested) today or the next few days.

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/171972/Habit

Point is, I won my bet even though it took me quite a time.

It’s sad that everyone can 3rax and 4gate into gm so there’s no new task ahead of me




"zerg probes to strong"




when the most known cheeser himself gets cheesed




when the most known cheeser himself gets cheesed for the second time


simple basics you need to know against every race:

Drone stacking:

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Mineral slide:

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hold posi micro:

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agressive hold posi micro:

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building blocking:

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Just know and be aware that to play this type of strat sucessfully you have to play almost perfect; it’s very unforgiving (unlike Protoss or Terran :D). This might be a "simple" strat but you have to perform it perfect and can’t allow simple mistakes that you can get away with in a normal macro game.

The Vetos:
-Shakuras (to long way, only good in zvz)
-tal darim
-Meta (overlordscout will gain to much info to early so it sucks in zvz close by air positions)


The actual strategies:


ZvT

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ZvP with Forge opening

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ZvP with gate opening

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ZvZ

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ZvP Eco 7pool

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Another replay of this eco 7pool vs WHITERA played on the 11.11.11 threw the game away but well. shows how to react well from whitera, and how to transition as zerg
http://drop.sc/56357


this is whiteras analysis to the 7pool




Useful tools to deal with this early allins.

Defensive Drone Stacking

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Watch it



The Surrounded By Worker Unit Bust

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i hope u have a good enough information to make a fair opinion about my strats now. but plz leave the flames out of here.

see you guys in grandmaster soon ^_^ for questions feel free to pm me. dont forget there are a ton of replays uploaded. check them out

Replays ZvZ

Ret: http://drop.sc/148732
Stephano: http://drop.sc/54903
Stephano 2: http://drop.sc/33603
Alive offrace: http://drop.sc/54891
Catz: http://drop.sc/54892
Slush: http://drop.sc/54896
phoenix: http://drop.sc/54902
Darkforce: http://drop.sc/33583
Darkforce 2: http://drop.sc/33581

Replays ZvP

WhiteRa http://drop.sc/56357 (eco 7 pool)
Huk: http://drop.sc/54893
Hero: http://drop.sc/54897
Gosugatored: http://drop.sc/54894
desRow: http://drop.sc/54900
Adelscott: http://drop.sc/33580
Bischu: http://drop.sc/33582
Grubby: http://drop.sc/33588 (he unpaused the game before i was about to win, thatswhy offensive gg!)
Nightend: http://drop.sc/33598
Whitera: http://drop.sc/33606
Welmu: http://drop.sc/33585 (drones)
NaviBabyk: http://drop.sc/54906 (drones)
ToD http://drop.sc/33604

Replays ZvT

TLO: http://drop.sc/55424 (drones!!!)
TLO: http://drop.sc/33592
Lucifron: http://drop.sc/33593
Happy: http://drop.sc/33589
Strelok: http://drop.sc/54906
Beastyqt: http://drop.sc/39934 (take care, rage, better turn mature language filter on )
Cloud: http://drop.sc/39933
Satiini: http://drop.sc/33601 (after long friendship in wc3 not my friend anymore thanks to 6pool )
murderer: http://drop.sc/33605 (drones)

feel free to use those replays to make vods, casts or whatever, but dont forget to post me a link as PM ^_^


Infamous, The Best Rages:

VTavilo:

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BeastyQQ:

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Last edit: 2012-10-16 03:23:06
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
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  Bad_Habit   Germany. November 09 2011 01:37. Posts 243Profile # 
before you flame, an admin told me to repost it after i add some information about the strats because the old thread had already to much hate in it. just leave the hate of this and go to my blog. feel free to flame there, i sure do care.
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
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 ppterodactyl   November 09 2011 01:38. Posts 33
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Further proving that Grandmaster means nothing.

User was warned for this post
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 T.O.P.  *   Hong Kong. November 09 2011 01:42. Posts 4442
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On November 09 2011 01:38 ppterodactyl wrote:
Further proving that Grandmaster means nothing.

It means that he's the king of 6 pool. This season is actually the hardest GM season yet for the NA server.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
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  VPCursed   November 09 2011 01:43. Posts 1038Profile Blog # 
like being plat in europe? my high masters got me masters on kr... don't really know why euro would even try to be elitist.. its well known both the ladders are pretty even in skill level.
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 FeyFey   Germany. November 09 2011 01:49. Posts 4692
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nope only a proof that master players are as weak to cheese as bronze players. Lost to some 6 pools before, but generally cheese is really easy to hold and badly executed most of the time. Due to the macro only syndrome, where players only train that and well die pretty easily to micro heavy openings.
i wish i would meet more cheesy players, its fun to micro with workers and t1 units.
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 mbr2321   United States. November 09 2011 01:50. Posts 908
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Is this thread a troll? Why is OP talking about actionjesuz? Is this a real thing?
~~Treating eSports as a social science since 2011~~ Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
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 Shado.   United States. November 09 2011 01:53. Posts 187
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On November 09 2011 01:38 ppterodactyl wrote:
Further proving that Grandmaster means nothing.


Further proving that perfect execution of any strategy can place you high on ladder.
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 OmniEulogy   Canada. November 09 2011 02:04. Posts 2155
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this is actually pretty cool. gj man. Also white-ra is such a nice person xD
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 K3Nyy   United States. November 09 2011 02:06. Posts 1709
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I seen a few people do this too though they were just masters. I seen someone also 2rax allin from plat to top masters. ><"
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 Zefa   United States. November 09 2011 02:08. Posts 297
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Surprisingly solid strategy post that focuses on the 6/7 pool builds. White ra video was awesome. Makes me love the guy even more.

btw, OP, does anyone u play on ladder ever just blind counter a 6 pool build when they face you?
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 bri9and   United States. November 09 2011 02:13. Posts 228
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I never knew about the hold position move when fighting drones.. thanks.

I don't have time to play with myself
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 ShatterZer0   United States. November 09 2011 02:15. Posts 1832
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Ungodly Manner.... Holy shit.

KING OF SIX POOL.
A time to live.
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 navy   Canada. November 09 2011 02:16. Posts 189
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great thread

great in-depth analysis of effective early pool all-ins.

It's not uncommon anymore for economic 7pools or economic 10 pools to be go-to strats for some people but I really like the devotion to all-in in your guide.

Thanks a lot, great read, great tactical and timing information.
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  Bad_Habit   Germany. November 09 2011 02:18. Posts 243Profile # 

On November 09 2011 02:08 Zefa wrote:
Surprisingly solid strategy post that focuses on the 6/7 pool builds. White ra video was awesome. Makes me love the guy even more.

btw, OP, does anyone u play on ladder ever just blind counter a 6 pool build when they face you?


ye i meet alot of 9pools or 12 pools or double 10 gate and such unortodox shit, guess a maphack is arround but once u passed those guys (midhighmaster) and you only face really good player that blind counters number decreases
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
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 LeBaron   Canada. November 09 2011 02:19. Posts 9
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Thats unreal. I hope this doesnt tempt to many players haha
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 Daniel C   Hong Kong. November 09 2011 02:19. Posts 1434
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"50 minerals cheap imbalanced shitface"

roflol...
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
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 ActionJesuz   Denmark. November 09 2011 02:24. Posts 27
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Great thread mate ^_^ <3
*Knock Knock*
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 ALPINA   Lithuania. November 09 2011 02:24. Posts 3773
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On November 09 2011 02:19 Daniel C wrote:
"50 minerals cheap imbalanced shitface"

roflol...


loled as well

Nice guide! you really know a lot about 6 pools xD. Also never knew about hold position trick to remove attack priority.
Last edit: 2011-11-09 02:27:17
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
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 iAmBiGbiRd   Australia. November 09 2011 02:31. Posts 1011
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Wow whitera took that really, really well o.O
BiGbiRd, Top Protoss in Australia/SEA - currently teamless Played in the Australian/Oceania WCS finals, Check it out!!!! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6cXM9EOmg
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