| Maggost Venezuela. August 01 2012 00:09. Posts 253 | Profile # |
| I was a fan of Armored Core series on Playstation, now i am looking forward to this one! |
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| Obsidian United States. August 01 2012 00:11. Posts 259 | Profile # |
On July 31 2012 22:56 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 11:05 rwrzr wrote:
I'm calling in now. People are going to complain about long range mechs "sniping." Can't wait!
people are actually complaining that sniping is useless, and everyone is building pure brawler builds. all the weapons with travel time have huge lag issues, and the projectiles are slow as fuck, and er lasers do fuck all dps and have huge heat. mpl and srm boats are the flavor of the month.
Some truth here. Some issues currently. You can snipe somewhat, but getting the kill via? Not practical. Your going to splash a lot of pieces, and maybe do plenty of damage (if you can account for lag, fire-delay and bullet travel time), but that won't bring down your opponent.
On August 01 2012 00:09 Maggost wrote:
I was a fan of Armored Core series on Playstation, now i am looking forward to this one!
This is not Armored Core. Mechs are slow, unwieldy and really... fairly low-high tech for all that. It's more true to other Mechwarrior games than Armored Core, but combat is far slower. Just be prepared.Last edit: 2012-08-01 00:12:28 |
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| Maggost Venezuela. August 01 2012 01:03. Posts 253 | Profile # |
On August 01 2012 00:11 Obsidian wrote:This is not Armored Core. Mechs are slow, unwieldy and really... fairly low-high tech for all that. It's more true to other Mechwarrior games than Armored Core, but combat is far slower. Just be prepared.
Yeah i know it's way slower, but i love mech based games! |
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| Kaal Djibouti. August 01 2012 04:04. Posts 1673 | Profile Blog # |
On July 31 2012 22:56 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 11:05 rwrzr wrote:
I'm calling in now. People are going to complain about long range mechs "sniping." Can't wait!
people are actually complaining that sniping is useless, and everyone is building pure brawler builds. all the weapons with travel time have huge lag issues, and the projectiles are slow as fuck, and er lasers do fuck all dps and have huge heat. mpl and srm boats are the flavor of the month.
Pretty much. There are issues with pretty much every weapon except M/S PL and L, UAC5 and SRMs. Especially LRMs, the LBX10, the flamer and Gauss Rifle. Also half the maps have huge problems and the base capturing mechanic is fairly wacked at the moment, but luckily is being changed. |
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| iGrok United States. August 01 2012 05:23. Posts 4298 | Profile Blog # |
| Whats wrong with LRMs? Seem fine to me |
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| Obsidian United States. August 01 2012 07:21. Posts 259 | Profile # |
If you have a battery of LRM boats, you can do plenty of damage if you have spotters. In a direct fight? Near worthless.
1v1? Much the same, they splash damage like nothing. |
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| iGrok United States. August 01 2012 07:53. Posts 4298 | Profile Blog # |
So what? Thats how LRMs are supposed to work...
Not every weapon is awesome in a brawl... |
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| Belisarius Australia. August 01 2012 07:54. Posts 1861 | Profile # |
Guys, seriously, NDA.
Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...Last edit: 2012-08-01 07:56:53 |
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| Infernal_dream United States. August 01 2012 16:04. Posts 1839 | Profile # |
On August 01 2012 07:54 Belisarius wrote:
Guys, seriously, NDA.
Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...
If they want to discuss it then let them discuss it. It's at their own risk and for everyone elses enjoyment to read/maybe see a video about it. It's not like they're going to be banned from retail anyways. |
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| Risen United States. August 01 2012 16:28. Posts 5852 | Profile Blog # |
On August 01 2012 16:04 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 07:54 Belisarius wrote:
Guys, seriously, NDA.
Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...
If they want to discuss it then let them discuss it. It's at their own risk and for everyone elses enjoyment to read/maybe see a video about it. It's not like they're going to be banned from retail anyways.
Some people take the NDA as their validation as belonging to an elite crew of testers and those on the outside of beta are "unworthy". I've been in so many betas it's just blech for me at this point. I used to take the things super serious, though, so maybe Beli is somewhat newer? They let in every person who paid for their game... their NDA is meaningless at this point get off your high horse.
((I'm not advocating breaking the NDA in serious ways, but cmon... the stuff in this thread is pennies))
However, if he is correct about some stuff being posted being wrong that's a bummer. |
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| Sabu113 United States. August 01 2012 16:45. Posts 6558 | Profile Blog # |
| Well for the beta players then simple question, for a Beta game would you still pull the trigger and get it after playing beta? |
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| iGrok United States. August 02 2012 00:11. Posts 4298 | Profile Blog # |
| Absolutely. Easily worth the $60 I paid. And I've said that about precisely 2 games in the past. |
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| Obsidian United States. August 02 2012 01:09. Posts 259 | Profile # |
I'd recommend waiting for awhile to see how it fleshes out.
They've made a few promises that they may have backtracked on, and some of them sounded pretty important. That the 'tech' level was supposed to evolved in accordance with Battletech Lore may or may not exist. Clans, Clan Invasion, and how that's working may not happen at all. Currently there's a very finite limit on mechs and maps that makes it boring, quick, along with a very serious lack of support for socializing/guild/clan/faction.
If gameplay is unchanged from current, it will get stale quickly. |
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| scur2d2 Canada. August 02 2012 03:18. Posts 104 | Profile Blog # |
| Im really excited for this, maybe get a TL group going.. |
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| Jopz United States. August 02 2012 09:38. Posts 238 | Profile # |
Is there a TL group in beta now? How often do you guys play together, and how would one hook up with the group?
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| PrinceXizor United States. August 02 2012 09:40. Posts 4861 | Profile Blog # |
On August 02 2012 09:38 Jopz wrote:
Is there a TL group in beta now? How often do you guys play together, and how would one hook up with the group?
contact igrok. |
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| iGrok United States. August 02 2012 09:50. Posts 4298 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah, send a pm with your skype contact info and i'll get you set up |
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| Belisarius Australia. August 02 2012 12:35. Posts 1861 | Profile # |
On August 01 2012 16:28 Risen wrote:
Some people take the NDA as their validation as belonging to an elite crew of testers and those on the outside of beta are "unworthy". I've been in so many betas it's just blech for me at this point. I used to take the things super serious, though, so maybe Beli is somewhat newer? They let in every person who paid for their game... their NDA is meaningless at this point get off your high horse.
I realise that this guy's been temped, but come on. Sure you haven't got a horse of your own? For one thing, the buy-in nature of the MWO beta makes it about the least elite crew in the world.
The point is that the game is not finished and a huge number of things are likely to change. Every single person in every game has stuff that they don't like, and in a beta, lots of people think their pet issue is gamebreaking and are willing to evangelise it. That doesn't mean they're correct. The NDA is there to stop people spreading their preferences and prejudices as gospel truth, and scaring off potential buyers.
Do I think the NDA is futile now that anyone can buy in? Absolutely.
Do I think they should have ironed out the issues before starting to take people's money? Absolutely.
Do I think it's their own fault for starving their fans to the point where beta guys are wellsprings of information? Absolutely.
And do I have my own issues with the game? Oh man, let me count the ways...
But they chose to do it this way, and even if I disagree, I don't want to see the game being misrepresented. It will be a different beast when it goes live. I hope so, anyway. Last edit: 2012-08-02 14:58:43 |
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| Kaal Djibouti. August 02 2012 19:09. Posts 1673 | Profile Blog # |
| The issue with LRMs isn't damage, it's that it's incredibly easy to dodge them because there's no TAG of any kind yet. |
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| Obsidian United States. August 03 2012 01:33. Posts 259 | Profile # |
| How do you dodge them? I've seen 140+mph jenners still get hit. Sure, some will miss, but actually actively dodging them? Best I can hope for is to break lock. Even terrain is of limited help as they are raining down from a pretty high angle normally. |
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