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if something like that happens, we have me or curu as alternative candidates. i cannot see why scum wants to shoot anyone else than us 4 and blues. as radfield pointed out, it's unlikely that both of them are scum and i agree with him there. if it was complete random, it's unlikely and if the game is somehow balanced it's even more unlikely. however i think there is also a fairly high chance that one of the 4 players including myself is scum. some things about me, annul and I (supersoft) decided that i'll start this as the "main" player, since he's playing another game right now. if you want, i may post my name below every post. i think thats good for some more transparency. and who do we want to lynch today? prplhz? greymist? got to reread what they've done so far ;-) | ||
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@prplhz, i have to start somewhere right?! | ||
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On December 13 2011 01:32 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 00:13 zeks wrote: On December 13 2011 00:11 GiygaS wrote: On December 12 2011 23:56 zeks wrote: Note that the mayor has 2 votes, 1 being hidden And he can decide ties So in essence in some cases its like having 3 votes (in close voting races) so the mayor is a really really strong role compared to Pardoner. Get Radfield to Mayor and Arc or whoever to Pardoner I have very little time, so I can only write a few sentences. So how the hell does a potential 3 votes beat the ability to crush all votes? It means he can save 2 scummates from being lynched! Any pardoner who uses a pardon is to be auto-lynched the next day No exceptions Exception 1. mass last minute vote switch. Questionable Exception 2. Everyone agrees on lynching someone, then occurs a last hour voteswitch when some keyplayers are unavailable. I don't need to add that I also think hydras should sign their posts. Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 22:55 Arctocod wrote: For the record, that was syllogism. I suppose we could start tagging our posts. I do not find your answer satisfactory as speaking up first says very little about his alignment. None of my answers for anything or just some of them? Furthermore I never said I liked Rafields plan, I liked the fact that he said something and everyone else mutualy agrees on it which indicates it was a pro-town action ergo pro-town play. Do you belive Deus-ex and TnTp hydras will be easy to get a read of? i will be readable as always. i don't see a problem as long as hydras tag their posts. whats wrong with radfields electionplan? | ||
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i say it: i like radfields plan. players like you lose games for town. fosing around without any reasons. why dont you use your brain before you post. i didnt attack you in the slightest. i didnt put words in your mouth. i only wanted that you tell me why you dont say that you like rads plan. its so simple. now take your incredibly stupid fos back stop derailing and answer my question: why are you talking with no content? | ||
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for scum a hydra is not that awesome. you can communicate with your fellowplayers either way. a townhydra has a huge advantage. normally you cant discuss your reads in irc etc. and this is helping a lot. therefor no hydralynch d1. i'd actually told you this even if i were no hydra lol (still supersoft posting) | ||
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On December 13 2011 02:09 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 02:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: risk, your fos on my is disturbing and stupid. new players read "fos" and put me on their lists. you said you never said that you like radfields plan. and i want to know why you dont say this. i say it: i like radfields plan. players like you lose games for town. fosing around without any reasons. why dont you use your brain before you post. i didnt attack you in the slightest. i didnt put words in your mouth. i only wanted that you tell me why you dont say that you like rads plan. its so simple. now take your incredibly stupid fos back stop derailing and answer my question: why are you talking with no content? If you're town then why are you forcing a disussion on this topic which is 100% useless and nothing but a distraction for town. my fos is valid and it's not the fos'd ones job to question it. It's funny how someone who tells me to "think" before "I" post doesn't have time to reread your own and mark it!! oh no risk... you did it again. Posting with no content. i don't force a disturbing discussion, I want to know why you don't say that radfields electing himself and palmar plan is good. and again: Your FoS on me actually is disturbing and stupid. You cannot have a read on me, because I didn't do anything yet. Plus I am town and your read on me - if you actually had one - would be wrong. S | ||
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I am certainly not that naive that I think I could stop the stampede if someone actually pardons someone, but I for one will judge every single case individually. S | ||
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On December 13 2011 03:25 prplhz wrote: I'll be voting either Radfield or Arctocod, using my vote to put as many of them in office as I can. @zeks Hey, you said that you'd like to lynch a hydra or a mayor candidate, so you want to lynch either Radfield, Arctocod, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA or TotallyNotTwoPeople? Hydras because your sixth sense tells you that one of these are scum and mayor candidates because you think that scum has at least one candidate running? Am I understanding this right? Zeks disappeard when I called him out for his HORRIBLE ideas. On December 13 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Secondly the Dues-ex vs risk.nuke is good, I like see'ing two players argue about anything. Its quite helpful. In this argument I think Dues-ex is more logical, but there getting off topic from the election / lynch. You got it. lulling me is good way to collect towncred. | ||
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On December 13 2011 03:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 03:40 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: On December 13 2011 03:25 prplhz wrote: I'll be voting either Radfield or Arctocod, using my vote to put as many of them in office as I can. @zeks Hey, you said that you'd like to lynch a hydra or a mayor candidate, so you want to lynch either Radfield, Arctocod, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA or TotallyNotTwoPeople? Hydras because your sixth sense tells you that one of these are scum and mayor candidates because you think that scum has at least one candidate running? Am I understanding this right? Zeks disappeard when I called him out for his HORRIBLE ideas. On December 13 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Secondly the Dues-ex vs risk.nuke is good, I like see'ing two players argue about anything. Its quite helpful. In this argument I think Dues-ex is more logical, but there getting off topic from the election / lynch. You got it. lulling me is good way to collect towncred. And pointing out I'm trying to collect towncred is a good way for you to get some good towncred too. =) classic win win scenario. | ||
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and no i am not, but I want medicprotect tonight. If I die, I am goind to rage infinitely! Seriously I hate to be shot at night. One last word to the election thing today: STOP DISCUSSING IT! It's OBVIOUS that we vote Palmar/syllo and Radfield into office today. Even if one of them is scum, we save the other from 100% certain death. Both of them are very valuabe if town and because we surely are unable to determine their alignment after day1, therefor we save both of them. beforehand information for the medics: you guys save me and curu. | ||
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On December 13 2011 06:51 supersoft wrote: omg. I see horrible play all over the place. GUYS! Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 05:40 Comprissent wrote: On December 13 2011 05:00 GiygaS wrote: [...] I'll be be putting my tentative lynch vote on Zeks. This will turn in to a real vote if I come back in 3 hours and no new info has really been unveilied/no info that's an easy analysis for a lynch. The points against him have been pointed out by Deus-Ex, he wanted to vote a hydra off for really no reason, other than what I can see that he's threatened by them (a mafia would be threatened!) He also dissappeared for a while, and when he returned, he just quickly answered a quesiton, and didn't either reference or defend his accusations. I would argue that Deus-ex seems the most threatened On December 13 2011 02:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: [...] players like you lose games for town. fosing around without any reasons. why dont you use your brain before you post. i didnt attack you in the slightest. i didnt put words in your mouth. i only wanted that you tell me why you dont say that you like rads plan. its so simple. now take your incredibly stupid fos back stop derailing and answer my question: why are you talking with no content? This is a fairly personal attack, that seems suspicious to me This post is bullshit! Why is a personal attack suspicious? It's not! He FoSd me for no reason and this is distracting! FoSing around for fun is disturbing. That is simple and true. Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 06:02 zeks wrote: On December 13 2011 05:34 risk.nuke wrote: any kind of "those present should mutualy decide if to use pardon" is idiocy and a setup like that would only favor the mafia over town. The pardoner will have to decide himself if he is going to use it or not, and if he pardons it's at his own risk. Forbidding it is idiocy but we should warn him that by using the abillity chances are high we'll kill him. amen inserting exceptions creates loopholes that a scum pardoner can use to get out of harms way. It is imperative that there are no exceptions @Giygas not sure where you're getting at that i'm feeling threatened. I am posting without fear. Funny how you think I'm the most threatened when Deus has by far been the most defensive from risk-nuke's FoS (which I think was pretty baseless from that one comment). So I point at a group of players who I may think is scum (from my sixth sense). Never thought it would be taken that seriously. For every nickel I get for every FoS or baseless accusation I've seen in past games I'd have plenty of nickels. Not to mention the people who are yelling around calling people stupid. If anything GiygaS your insistence on having exceptions for the no-pardon rule is scummy as you're essentially creating a failsafe plan for a scum pardoner who can use what you just said as reasoning for pardoning his scum buddy As good as the vets have proven to be in past games don't just trust them for the sake of their names; look at how they are playing this game. Don't give them (too) much credit "don't give the vets too much credit" nonesense. In fact recent TL.net towns tend to give vets not enough credit and end in a mess because everyone thinks he knows best. You don't catch scum if you don't see the game as a whole and all the possibilities. You think: "ooh he's plaing agressive - he must be scum" or "ooh he defends himself" that's bullshit. Town and scum react extremely similar when they're under pressure. Some just go afk, some are agressive, some appeal to emotions. The best way to separate scum from town is the discussion. From time to time scum has to or just accidentely uses "bad" logic, a townie wouldn't think of. They have to push their own agenda. There are nightactions that have to be explained, there are voteswitches that have to be explained and there are elections in this game. If every townie just posts for the sake of posting like this post for example: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 06:05 zeks wrote: Having said all that I again insist on having Radfield as mayor not pardoner despite his activity being slightly lower than Arcs he has made the most sense. I would also argue Palmar is a harder read than Radfield (I mean WTF? you would also argue that Palmar is harder to read than Radfield? WHY?) sorry kita ^_^ | ||
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On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote: Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again. Show nested quote + 1. MarserBlood 2. nyczbrandon 8. Refallen 9. Cwave 11. MrZentor 15. evantrees 17. DropBear 23. Nisani201 24. cascades 25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra) Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him. I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person. i know you're pretty new. but seriously this post looks like someone in your scumQT told you the following: "hey zentor, you need to post something... attack zeks, he looks pretty bad right now..." or can you tell me a better story? | ||
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On December 13 2011 12:32 GreYMisT wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 12:18 MrZentor wrote: On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote: Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again. Show nested quote + Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him. I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person. I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan? We should lynch some lurkers to keep them active, but I don't think that will get us any mafia, because the mafia will end up shifting the vote to a non mafia lurker. I am just saying that given the current information, it would be best to lynch him. This could easily change with any new information or posts. so you recognize that lynching lurkers won't kill mafia, but you still want to do it anyway? the hell? you misunderstood him. he wants to lynch zeks. this post looks of zentor looks better than his previous one. i think this sounds more like his own thoughts... and if these are his own thoughts, i am willing to believe that the zeks vote might have been his own idea... but i need to talk to you zentor | ||
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On December 13 2011 15:48 GreYMisT wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 15:43 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: On December 13 2011 12:32 GreYMisT wrote: On December 13 2011 12:18 MrZentor wrote: On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote: Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again. Show nested quote + Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him. I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person. I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan? We should lynch some lurkers to keep them active, but I don't think that will get us any mafia, because the mafia will end up shifting the vote to a non mafia lurker. I am just saying that given the current information, it would be best to lynch him. This could easily change with any new information or posts. so you recognize that lynching lurkers won't kill mafia, but you still want to do it anyway? the hell? you misunderstood him. he wants to lynch zeks. this post looks of zentor looks better than his previous one. i think this sounds more like his own thoughts... and if these are his own thoughts, i am willing to believe that the zeks vote might have been his own idea... but i need to talk to you zentor The concerns i had with his post was he said "we should lynch lurkers, but we won't find mafia there." no. thats not what he intended to say. he said: lynching lurkers keeps everyone active but doesnt kill scum, therefor no. | ||
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