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On December 11 2011 07:36 Liquid`Sheth wrote: /in Still looking for how elections work, and I'm a mafia newbie. First game here ~ Time to go read the rules while I wait for this to start ! : ) Who's this scrub? | ||
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I will be voting for the person who stays active, transparent and makes the most sense to me today, and I recommend everybody else does this too. I will not vote for anybody based on what they've done in other games, if you want my vote you need to perform now, not yesterday. There are probably people who are more likely to do this than others, but my mind is open. On December 12 2011 12:37 Nisani201 wrote: Yes, Lord Sheth, that is called Meta Analysis and is used very commonly. However, it's important not to base your entire argument against someone on meta. This. If you take all meta out of a case and it doesn't look solid anymore, then it was probably bad to begin with. Meta should mainly be used as a tool for tuning in on potential scum, not as a basis for a lynch. @Liquid`Sheth Why are you running if you think you might not be the best choice for mayor? It sounds so far like you're just running on a generic campaign fueled by fear that you'll get killed off quick and this isn't appealing to me. Why exactly do you think that Radfield is town? I have never played with you before and I have a hard time understanding this "imaginary tone" that you speak of. Also as a gesture of goodwill: Hi, my name is Simon too, but this is my first name. I have a hard time coming up with two lies, so I'll just say four truths instead. | ||
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Last game I WAS scum, so it's good that a lot of people had me on their list? Also, you shouldn't be talking about Palmar's performance in XLVIII when that game is still going on. Why would it be devastating to have Radfield/Arctocod in office if they're both scum? The Mayor's role isn't really that powerful, and PYP:I was won without the Pardoner stopping a single lynch, and if the Pardoner stops a lynch without a huge reasonable then he's autolynch the next day. Wouldn't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town? | ||
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What do you mean "somewhat control the game"? Just because they win the elected doesn't mean that everybody has to follow them unconditionally for the rest of the game. How are those roles extremely powerful? An extra vote can be powerful, but it is very rare that we see a lynch that comes down to a single vote anyway, and the Pardoner can't pardon anybody for no reason or the mob will have him. I'd think that it would suck to have Arctocod and Radfield/ProfessorBadass out of office because they will find scum if they are town, and scum can't do anything about it. If they are scum then they will put themselves very much in the spot light and they'll slip up and we'll lynch them, and scum can't do anything about it. Sucks that we didn't get townies the protection, but it's a lot worse to elect a townie who can't find scum over a townie who can find scum. | ||
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On December 12 2011 14:23 nyczbrandon wrote: Is it possible for the body guard to be a mafia? You'll have to ask the host about that but I doubt you'll get an answer. In PYP:Interesting scum could choose to have one of their members become a bodyguard that didn't protect the elected officials, but in the game the elected offices knew who the bodyguards were so that's a different scenario. The daypost alludes to the bodyguard being assigned using an unspecified algorithm, but I think we can assume that the bodyguard is effective in all cases, and that kinda means that he's very likely not scum. | ||
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If those we elect are scum, they will be put in the spotlight where they are more likely to slip up there than out of the spotlight. When they slip up, we lynch them. If they are not scum, they will find scum and there's nothing scum can do about it. If you think they're so good that they don't slip up as scum, then why would we lynch them at all no matter if they're elected or not? If town doesn't want to lynch scum just because they're elected officials, then town sucks. There's absolutely no reason not to lynch a scum just because he's elected. Why would you even elect someone "not as experienced", and by "not as experienced" I assume that you mean "not proven as good a scum hunter as other people"? What good will that even do us, if we put someone in office who can't find scum? Scum won't hit him anyway so the night protection loses its value, left are the double vote and the pardon but those are not very strong anyway. | ||
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Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office. @GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT? | ||
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On December 12 2011 13:05 zeks wrote: [...] I probably won't be running but I hope other candidates do as I don't really want to see a Radfield/Arctocod office [...] On December 12 2011 23:51 zeks wrote: Voting Radfield + Arc [...] What changed your mind? You didn't want to vote Arctocod at first because you didn't think Palmar was that good a scum hunter, did he suddenly get better or something? | ||
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@zeks Hey, you said that you'd like to lynch a hydra or a mayor candidate, so you want to lynch either Radfield, Arctocod, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA or TotallyNotTwoPeople? Hydras because your sixth sense tells you that one of these are scum and mayor candidates because you think that scum has at least one candidate running? Am I understanding this right? | ||
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On December 13 2011 03:29 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Heyo Prplhz! How do you feel about both Radfields and Arctocods campaigns ? Anything that's making you lean one way or the other? There's nothing that would make me keep either of those out of office as I kinda said in an earlier post. I'll place my vote to make sure as many of these two get into office, if I have the deciding vote I'll put it on Arctocod because I think they comprise the best townie in this game, but that is a highly hypothetical situation anyway. On December 13 2011 03:42 zeks wrote: Sure why not if theres a decent case on them wouldn't be a bad choice compared to a lurker Im talking about mayor candidates outside the elected ones obviously Why are you voting Radfield/Arc state your reasoning sir I stated my reasoning several times, if you have any concrete questions then go ahead and ask them. But you didn't say anything about "a decent case" in your original posts. You said that you had a "sixth sense" telling you that one of the hydras is scum, and then you suggested lynching into mayor candidates too. Why did you feel the need to point out these two groups of people if the criteria you want to lynch on is "a decent case" anyway? Saying you want to lynch on "a decent case" is an empty statement anyway, why would anybody not want to do that ever? @Comprissent I don't understand why you want to leave one of the elected offices for an inexperienced player, can you please explain this to me? @DEUS-ex-MAFIA What do you think of Liquid`Sheth so far? | ||
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ProfessorBadass is even a hydra and he's posted like twice. Less HoN, more mafia. | ||
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@Liquid`Sheth Lynching a lurker is usually just a backup plan that we execute in case we can't get a good read on anybody. Since there's like 30 hours until deadline it's better to try to scum hunt before we just lynch the guy with the lowest post count (especially since he will not be mafia). So, do you have any reads on anybody based on anything substantial yet? You said that I was "weird" in an earlier post, what exactly did you mean by this? | ||
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Hey, how do you suggest that we get started for real with the lynch discussion? | ||
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On December 13 2011 10:47 nyczbrandon wrote: Whose everyone going to vote for lynch? times gonna be up in about an hour I'm just gonna vote whoever you vote. Who are you voting? | ||
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