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 CP-Jun   Australia. December 14 2011 18:38. Posts 278
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Huge misinformation that I have translated. Therefore I have edited the post. I am deeply sorry about this.
Please refer to : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294943

Also Mr.Chae mentioned that David Kim will come to the finals of Blizzcup.

T/N : When GOM announced the new format of GSL tour 2012. They planned out total 2 seeds to Code S and 2 seeds to Code A. Two seeds are sponsor seeds which are given to Idra and Sen. Two seeds are up/down seeds that will be given out to top performing non-Korea players. Therefore Idra and Sen did not suddenly get in that Naniwa's punishment is a separate issue.


T/N 2 : There is a rule about players' behaviours, whether Naniwa broke it or not is up to your discussion

Warning or disqualification
- 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours

Poll: Do you think the decision of taking code S from Naniwa is reasonable?

No (1266)
 
55%

Yes (1030)
 
45%

2296 total votes

Your vote: Do you think the decision of taking code S from Naniwa is reasonable?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: People are not reaching the middle ground, why would that be?

Cultural Clash (732)
 
39%

Naniwa's fans are just ignorant (594)
 
32%

Koreans are just being ridiculous (477)
 
25%

Others (73)
 
4%

1876 total votes

Your vote: People are not reaching the middle ground, why would that be?

(Vote): Cultural Clash
(Vote): Koreans are just being ridiculous
(Vote): Naniwa's fans are just ignorant
(Vote): Others


Last edit: 2011-12-15 03:15:44
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  Ruscour   December 14 2011 18:40. Posts 5116Profile Blog # 
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.
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 Archerylady   December 14 2011 18:40. Posts 236
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how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929
Last edit: 2011-12-14 18:41:09
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  Loomies   United States. December 14 2011 18:42. Posts 479Profile # 
grrrr..........
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 Jiddra   Sweden. December 14 2011 18:42. Posts 2657
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Fuckin idiots, bye bye GSL.

User was temp banned for this post.
I am not young enough to know everything.
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 Veldril   Thailand. December 14 2011 18:43. Posts 1609
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On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:
how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929


No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
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  Manifesto7   Osaka. December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 25138Profile Blog # 
GOM TV, sinking to Naniwa's level. Sweet sweet drama.
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 m0ck   December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 3322
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To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it.
Last edit: 2011-12-14 18:45:11
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  Ruscour   December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 5116Profile Blog # 

On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:
how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929



No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.

They explain that he did not break any rules and that they will endeavor to make sure situations like this never occur.

You do NOT punish a player who broke no rules because what he did isn't part of their "culture". This is possibly one of the most unprofessional things I have ever heard of a company doing.
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 ChuCky.Ca   Canada. December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 2479
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On December 14 2011 18:42 Jiddra wrote:
Fuckin idiots, bye bye GSL.

cya dont let the door hit u on the way out
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 Subversive   Australia. December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 1905
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On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:
how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929



No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.

Exactly. He's an invite to their tournament and he was really disrespectful. This is what you get.
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 Tachion   December 14 2011 18:44. Posts 7071
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Well played GOM. You needed to make an example of Naniwa and show people that pathetic displays like that aren't acceptable.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
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 krews   United States. December 14 2011 18:45. Posts 1189
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On December 14 2011 18:44 m0ck wrote:
To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it.


when did hero throw a game ?
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 AdreN-   United States. December 14 2011 18:45. Posts 502
Profile # 
Terrible decision by GSL, and I love you guys (I was at the live Blizzcon finals in Anaheim and have watched nearly every season). Also, I'm not even a huge fan of Naniwa to be honest but the kid doesn't deserve a ban considering he didn't break any official rule.
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 Tryxtira   Sweden. December 14 2011 18:45. Posts 469
Profile # 
This is actually outrageous. We have a very clear rule that there should be no punishment without law (in this case without a rule). It's really, really fucked up.
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  imMUTAble787   United States. December 14 2011 18:45. Posts 589Profile # 
Mr. Chae #1. Happy to see this.

Don't go to Korea and act like a moron when you're a representative of the foreigner community.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
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 Kazuki   Netherlands. December 14 2011 18:45. Posts 121
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On December 14 2011 18:40 Ruscour wrote:
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.


Sigh. You have not been watching any sc2 show have you.

I support of the punishment.
Last edit: 2011-12-14 18:46:23
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 m0ck   December 14 2011 18:46. Posts 3322
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On December 14 2011 18:45 krews wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:44 m0ck wrote:
To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it.



when did hero throw a game ?

Against DRG in group A, when he was already eliminated. He clearly didn't play to win.
Last edit: 2011-12-14 18:46:45
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 Juliette   United States. December 14 2011 18:46. Posts 5040
Profile Blog # 
Can we just be happy that we get IU for Blizzcup?

:D
http://mycliquehardmycupcold.tumblr.com/
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 Blackrobe   United States. December 14 2011 18:46. Posts 675
Profile # 
Honestly, this is absolutely disgraceful from GOM.
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
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