| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 00:30. Posts 583 | Profile # |
| GiygaS is the scummiest player by far this game. We should lynch the fuck out of him. |
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| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 00:32. Posts 583 | Profile # |
@Dirkzor
No one has counterclaimed Misder's roleblock claim. It might be that mafia just didn't use their roleblock in order to get Misder to claim, but I don't know. |
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| EchelonTee United States. December 29 2011 00:33. Posts 3421 | Profile # |
On December 28 2011 23:32 Shraft wrote:
Why'd you go all inactive on us yesterday? If you'd posted this only a few hours earlier, we might have had the power to lynch GiygaS. [...]
Family has been here since before Christmas. I can read everything in the thread on my phone, but only have time pockets to post bursts of things. Without getting too personal, obligations arose that got in the way of me posting a decent analysis.
I wanted to be more convincing before, now is my chance to be. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. December 29 2011 00:37. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| Who saids there even is a roleblocker in game? I've yet to see a blue... and if mafia doesn't have a RB its easy just to claim. That claim is at best a null read. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. December 29 2011 00:48. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| Btw both Cyber and Misder didn't want to vote for GiygaS day 2 lynch. Misder becase "I think he is town". And cyber... just because.. (no reason) |
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| Adam4167 Australia. December 29 2011 00:58. Posts 1235 | Profile # |
On December 29 2011 00:27 Dirkzor wrote:
Problem with hyshes is that he is a null read. I would like to send him of to the devil or whatever he believes in, but where does it leaves us if he flips town?
I don't see him as a null read, though. Everyone's throwing around the term "easiest lynch target going around", yet here he sits, someone jumping to his aid and defending him =/
Regardless, we're looking for 3 scum anyway. Ill take a more in-depth look at Misder and Cyber_Cheese in the morning, its 2:30am and fresh eyes can only be a good thing. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. December 29 2011 01:03. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| Well null maybe was an overkill... I see him scummy aswell, so i'd have no problem with lynching him. But as i wrote where does it leaves us going forward? we're in a place were we need to get next lynch correct and potential vigs have to hit correct. He is just not scummy enough to chance the game... |
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| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 01:16. Posts 583 | Profile # |
| I want us to lynch GiygaS. Hyshes is too much of a guess. |
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| Cyber_Cheese Australia. December 29 2011 01:45. Posts 3598 | Profile Blog # |
On December 29 2011 00:21 Dirkzor wrote:Why? Oh lets see. They were both quite active when we discussed policy lynched in the beginning. 2-4 post for each of them with nothing in it. They both did not jump the wagon for seph but tried to push another townie. Cyber FoS' me and Misder voted Jay with very little. They were both ended up voting jay day 1 (not scummy in itself). They both went through day 2 with minimim effort. We'll start with misder: On day1 he was decently active. He was pushing and saying it was obvious that Seph was noobtelling. He did try to push the lynch towards Jay and his vote was on Jay. Seems okay? Not jumping the wagon, trying to find another scummy player. But remember how easy the wagon for seph was going. Both because of us, the town, and seph's own play. Why meddle in that? Why not just push another townie so you can call it a gut read on day 2 with minimum of effort. His last post bothers me:
Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 14:01 Misder wrote:
Bwhahahaha. Should have known. I really didn't think if jay was scum, they would have let the bandwagon form that quickly.
What bandwagon? The wandwagon, if it was there, came a few hours before lynch. If you think he wasn't scum if it was this 'easy' why didn't you vote giygas or even hyshes. You said you thought giygas was town - okay. But there was lots of time when you voted. Why not push for hyshes then? Or come back to see if the bandwagon went as easy as you thought? Cyber_Cheese: Day 1 activity: Discussing policy lynches. FoS' me with a small case. A handfull of fluff posts so he appears to be active: 1 2 3 4 5After I picked up Misders Jay push he joins in. His case is short and practicly the same as misder wrote. He later shot down some of jays defence. Day 2 he comes out with a post attacking myself, Shraft, Jay and Hyshes. Jay is confirmed town. Hyshes is the easiest target in the book and Shraft and myself har the most towniest around - imo. This post isn't really a case but it just appears to add to the discussion again. His logic about that i should be scum if jay was scum i can't follow at all. He say that my vote switching saved jay on day 1... I changed TO jay and came back half a day later and knew it was last time to change my vote. Changed to seph to get a lynch. But by his logic I'm town now?! He voted for me after his case on me. Then changed to Hyshes - the easy target for scum (assuming hyshes is town) and in the end changed to Jay. Oh and softdefending giygas here: Soft defending giygaSSo all in all i find them scummy. Edit before posting: when reading this before posting the case didn't turn out as solid as it was in my head... Posting anyway...
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I heavily believed Jay would flip scum. As I've said before, the case on you stemmed from that.
Not sure if you're really asking me to defend wanting to lynch Hyshes over the more active Giygas when I was unsure. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. December 29 2011 07:58. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
Well any reaction would be nice... But now we're back to lurking the thread to death.
As i wrote in the end my case ended up rather lame. I just got a scummy vibe reading both cyber and misder filter. And they act so similar.
I'll go to bed now. I get killed to night my scummy list is:
Giygas
Misder
Cyber
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| GiygaS Canada. December 29 2011 08:04. Posts 727 | Profile Blog # |
I want to lynch you dirkzor. Why? Well let's just look at current events shall we? You were the one to organize the final bandwagon on to Jay, despite thinking I was the best candidate for lynching. You just said you want to lynch a lurker and have now had a complete 180 on that and now want to lynch me because it's now the popular opinion. I agree Cyber is a bit suspicious, I want to see his defense.
And wtf happened to Hyshes? |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. December 29 2011 08:26. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
What do you mean i want to lynch a lurker? You mean hyshes?
That bandwagon on jay was not my doing. I might have pushed it in the end but i was far from pushing jay during the day. Only reason i pushed jay was he seemed like the only one we could agree on without to much hassle.
Cyber and Misder thought you were town and wanted to vote hyshes or jay. You were obviously on jay. It was hard to organize any other lynch in the end.
anyway I'm off to bed now. Hopefully i'll be able to posst after this night... |
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| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 09:21. Posts 583 | Profile # |
@Misder
You said you thought that GiygaS is town. Why? What is wrong with my case on him? How do you explain what ET pointed out in his post on GiygaS's defense?
@Cyber_cheese
Are you willing to vote for GiygaS the next day? Why or why not? If you're not, present a better target. |
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| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 10:34. Posts 583 | Profile # |
| If you're town and reading this, please take the time to read through my case on GiygaS, his analysis, and ET's post concerning GiygaS's defense. Does his actions converge with those of a townie? Does his "analysis" actually bring something useful to the table? If you answer yes to both of these questions you're either lying or stupid as fuck. |
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| Shraft Sweden. December 29 2011 10:39. Posts 583 | Profile # |
| Clarification: with "his analysis" I mean the analyses on various (mostly dead) people that GiygaS posts on page 13-14. |
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| GiygaS Canada. December 29 2011 11:07. Posts 727 | Profile Blog # |
On December 28 2011 21:24 Dirkzor wrote:
Where was that post yesterday ET? O_o
As much as I want to hang GiygaS I would rather hang a lurker this time around. Wouldn't be surprised that atleast 2 mafia are hiding out there chilling.
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| GiygaS Canada. December 29 2011 11:11. Posts 727 | Profile Blog # |
| Also, why has Cyber_Cheese, a veteran, not been a target for the mafia? My problem right now guys is that we're at LyLo, after tonight we will have 7, if we lynch a town, that's GG right there. If we don't lynch, that's GG right there. We need to broaden our horizons. I urge people to think about the big picture. |
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| Adam4167 Australia. December 29 2011 11:34. Posts 1235 | Profile # |
On December 29 2011 11:11 GiygaS wrote:
Also, why has Cyber_Cheese, a veteran, not been a target for the mafia? My problem right now guys is that we're at LyLo, after tonight we will have 7, if we lynch a town, that's GG right there. If we don't lynch, that's GG right there. We need to broaden our horizons. I urge people to think about the big picture.
That's WIFOM right there. Cheese might be alive because the mafia are afraid the medic has been on him, or he might be alive because the mafia want us to think hes mafia so we hang him, or cheese is mafia. The same arguements could be applied to Misder or myself. My point is its a waste of time to sit here and speculate why anyone is still alive. |
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| Cyber_Cheese Australia. December 29 2011 11:59. Posts 3598 | Profile Blog # |
People on both lynches:
Adam4167
Dirkzor
Shraft
GiygaS
It's scummy to want to see townies die. I expect at least two of these people are scum. Additionally, the former three all seemed to agree that Giygas is a better target. And then proceeded to vote somebody that they had a relatively null read on.
On December 28 2011 10:49 Adam4167 wrote:
I'm here now, I overslept.
My vote on hyshes was a pressure vote, hoping to provoke some kind of reaction or well... anything. I am still suspicious of him. However, I am open to switching to either giygas or jay after skim reading the thread quickly, both are preferable to a no-lynch.
For the record I find giygas more scummy then jay.
On December 28 2011 11:26 Adam4167 wrote:If I could kill someone right now, it would be hyshes.Hes given us the least of the 3 current candidates. I think it was giygas that mentioned he pulled out of another game because he was busy, but when I checked that post Here, it sounds as though he pulled out so he could focus more on this game, rather than because of a time constraint. Jay became a bit more scummy now that hes come back, not one hour after cheese called him out saying he was going to be modkilled soon. That feels to me like hes been reading the thread all along and just lurking among the afkers. And what does he produce? a jump onto the only other wagon going that isnt his -giygas. I cant find too much in jays words that are scummy, but his actions aren't flattering. Still, id rather hang hyshes because hes at best a null read, at worst a lurking scum. Maybe our fairy godmother vigi can visit jaybrundage tonight (if we have one).
What happened to lynching Giygas in that half hour or so?
If you were willing to let the vigilante hit Jay, why did you specifically change your vote to ensure he was lynched?
On December 28 2011 11:54 Shraft wrote:
I'm not sure on jay, but I'd rather have a lynch than a no lynch for sure. If we have a vig, he shouldn't shoot tonight. (It's basically trading your shot for another lynch the next day unless we get a successful medic protection. DO NOT SHOOT.)
If you weren't sure on Jay, how was mis-lynching him better than having the vig shoot?
On December 29 2011 11:11 GiygaS wrote:
Also, why has Cyber_Cheese, a veteran, not been a target for the mafia? My problem right now guys is that we're at LyLo, after tonight we will have 7, if we lynch a town, that's GG right there. If we don't lynch, that's GG right there. We need to broaden our horizons. I urge people to think about the big picture.
Since when was I a veteran? :O |
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| Adam4167 Australia. December 29 2011 11:59. Posts 1235 | Profile # |
My final thoughts, in case I don’t survive the night:
The deadline is approaching quickly so forgive me if this is slightly rushed, id rather leave something rather then nothing.
I think giygas the first scum, I’ve said as much in my previous posts. I think the cases against him are building for a reason.
I think hyshes is the second scum.
I think the final scum is one of misder/cyber_cheese.
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