| BBallTime Canada. December 25 2011 12:16. Posts 21 | Profile # |
hi guys i would like to know how the 2600k fares vs the 2500k in streaming...i would like to stream in 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, will the 2600k be better?
i can get a 2600k for a bit cheaper so thats why im asking how much better it is than 2500k for streaming.
and is it even worth it to wait out maybe until ivy bridge?
Thanks! |
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| feanor1 United States. December 25 2011 12:22. Posts 1820 | Profile # |
| If you can get a 2600k for cheaper than a 2500k assuming all other things are equal the 2600k will outperform the 2500k. |
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| jacosajh December 25 2011 12:34. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Is your internet capable of streaming at 1200 or 1080p?
Even if it is, I don't think there are a lot of people that can or would take advantage of it. I usually set my streams to 720 or 480p just because 1080p glitch out sometimes.
But if everything on your end is good, you don't mind paying a little bit more, and you really want to do it, I don't see why you shouldn't get a 2600k. |
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| jstocky14 United Kingdom. December 25 2011 12:35. Posts 97 | Profile # |
The enthusiast socket for ivy bridge comes out in Jan and the rest is due for march or Q2 of the 2012 so if you want to pay enthusiast prices or wait until Q2 then wait if not get an i7 2600k/i5 2500k. Personally I would go for an i5 unless you have quite a few applications open whilst streaming like more than 80 and its not un common to have a bit more juice left in an overclocked i5 whilst streaming.
Just to recap i would get an i5 and a beefy cooler with a good case (as a rule of thumb the bigger the better) and then overclock (very important not to overclock on stock cooling). |
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| skyR Canada. December 25 2011 12:37. Posts 11178 | Profile # |
On December 25 2011 12:35 jstocky14 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The enthusiast socket for ivy bridge comes out in Jan and the rest is due for march or Q2 of the 2012 so if you want to pay enthusiast prices or wait until Q2 then wait if not get an i7 2600k/i5 2500k. Personally I would go for an i5 unless you have quite a few applications open whilst streaming like more than 80 and its not un common to have a bit more juice left in an overclocked i5 whilst streaming.
Just to recap i would get an i5 and a beefy cooler with a good case (as a rule of thumb the bigger the better) and then overclock (very important not to overclock on stock cooling).
Wrong.
Ivybridge-E has not been announced.
No Ivybridge is coming out in January.
More threads helps with encoding so it makes sense to get an i7.
Bigger is not always better.Last edit: 2011-12-25 12:39:26 |
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| jstocky14 United Kingdom. December 25 2011 13:39. Posts 97 | Profile # |
On December 25 2011 12:37 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 12:35 jstocky14 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The enthusiast socket for ivy bridge comes out in Jan and the rest is due for march or Q2 of the 2012 so if you want to pay enthusiast prices or wait until Q2 then wait if not get an i7 2600k/i5 2500k. Personally I would go for an i5 unless you have quite a few applications open whilst streaming like more than 80 and its not un common to have a bit more juice left in an overclocked i5 whilst streaming.
Just to recap i would get an i5 and a beefy cooler with a good case (as a rule of thumb the bigger the better) and then overclock (very important not to overclock on stock cooling).
Wrong. Ivybridge-E has not been announced. No Ivybridge is coming out in January. More threads helps with encoding so it makes sense to get an i7. Bigger is not always better.
sorry i meant sandy bridge enthusiast |
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| Flipside United States. December 25 2011 13:53. Posts 141 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 13:39 jstocky14 wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 12:37 skyR wrote:
On December 25 2011 12:35 jstocky14 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The enthusiast socket for ivy bridge comes out in Jan and the rest is due for march or Q2 of the 2012 so if you want to pay enthusiast prices or wait until Q2 then wait if not get an i7 2600k/i5 2500k. Personally I would go for an i5 unless you have quite a few applications open whilst streaming like more than 80 and its not un common to have a bit more juice left in an overclocked i5 whilst streaming.
Just to recap i would get an i5 and a beefy cooler with a good case (as a rule of thumb the bigger the better) and then overclock (very important not to overclock on stock cooling).
Wrong. Ivybridge-E has not been announced. No Ivybridge is coming out in January. More threads helps with encoding so it makes sense to get an i7. Bigger is not always better.
sorry i meant sandy bridge enthusiast
SB-E is already out. Since like Early Nov I think. |
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| Boblhead United States. December 25 2011 15:20. Posts 2557 | Profile # |
| 2500k and 2600k when overclocked are both capable of 1080p streams assuming you have the bandwidth., |
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| BBallTime Canada. December 25 2011 17:09. Posts 21 | Profile # |
would the 2600k be more futureproof than 2500k?
Anyone know when exactly the ivy bridge mainstream chips will release? |
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| Cinim Denmark. December 25 2011 17:14. Posts 640 | Profile # |
| since this is already here, what is the difference between i5-2500k and i5-2500 ?? according to the specs they are 100 % identical, in terms of power, overclocking opportunities etc. |
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| skyR Canada. December 25 2011 17:17. Posts 11178 | Profile # |
Ivybridge is being released in March / April.
The 2500k has an unlocked multiplier. The 2500 has a limited multiplier so the highest overclock you will achieve with the 2500 is 4.1GHz. |
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| Cyro United Kingdom. December 25 2011 19:06. Posts 5721 | Profile Blog # |
Xsplit will utilise hyperthreading.
It is not a matter of "if you have X you can stream at 1080p" as most people seem to think, even at lower resolutions you can configure xsplit to use more CPU and encode with higher compression levels and get higher quality at lower bitrates, etc.
If you plan to use default settings with little to no optimising (as >95% of the streaming community seems to do) then it wont really affect you other than the price tag, but if you are pushing your system with overclocks and trying to optimise, it will make all the difference in the worldLast edit: 2011-12-25 19:13:09 |
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| FabledIntegral United States. December 25 2011 19:31. Posts 8365 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 12:16 BBallTime wrote:
hi guys i would like to know how the 2600k fares vs the 2500k in streaming...i would like to stream in 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, will the 2600k be better?
i can get a 2600k for a bit cheaper so thats why im asking how much better it is than 2500k for streaming.
and is it even worth it to wait out maybe until ivy bridge?
Thanks!
I'm guessing that's a typo? |
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| nttea Sweden. December 25 2011 19:47. Posts 4067 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 19:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 12:16 BBallTime wrote:
hi guys i would like to know how the 2600k fares vs the 2500k in streaming...i would like to stream in 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, will the 2600k be better?
i can get a 2600k for a bit cheaper so thats why im asking how much better it is than 2500k for streaming.
and is it even worth it to wait out maybe until ivy bridge?
Thanks!
I'm guessing that's a typo?
he probably means 2600k for cheaper than its normal price, not cheaper than 2500k cause then it would be a no-brainer right- |
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| xrayEU Sweden. December 25 2011 20:05. Posts 371 | Profile # |
I just bought a 2500k for streaming and it works really great, it almost like i can't feel the comp slowing down when i stream.
And i can easy stream out a 1080p stream with it. And the 2600k cost almost twice as much as a 2500k. |
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| Cyro United Kingdom. December 25 2011 20:08. Posts 5721 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 20:05 poofie wrote:
I just bought a 2500k for streaming and it works really great, it almost like i can't feel the comp slowing down when i stream.
And i can easy stream out a 1080p stream with it. And the 2600k cost almost twice as much as a 2500k.
With the right set up you can stream at 1920x1080 with even a phenom II x4 with no performance hit inside sc2 |
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| xrayEU Sweden. December 25 2011 20:16. Posts 371 | Profile # |
On December 25 2011 20:08 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 20:05 poofie wrote:
I just bought a 2500k for streaming and it works really great, it almost like i can't feel the comp slowing down when i stream.
And i can easy stream out a 1080p stream with it. And the 2600k cost almost twice as much as a 2500k.
With the right set up you can stream at 1920x1080 with even a phenom II x4 with no performance hit inside sc2
Actually i had a Phenom 2 x4 965 BE before i upgraded to a 2500k. And yes you are right, i could stream SC2 without any lagg issues but with other games it my performance could drop a bit but with this 2500k i can't feel any lagg issues or anything.
I'm just saying that a 2500k is more than enough for a 1080p stream, so you could save some money if you not buy the 2600k CPU since the 2500k is enough. |
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| FabledIntegral United States. December 25 2011 20:21. Posts 8365 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 20:08 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 20:05 poofie wrote:
I just bought a 2500k for streaming and it works really great, it almost like i can't feel the comp slowing down when i stream.
And i can easy stream out a 1080p stream with it. And the 2600k cost almost twice as much as a 2500k.
With the right set up you can stream at 1920x1080 with even a phenom II x4 with no performance hit inside sc2
What's "the right set up"? |
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| Cyro United Kingdom. December 25 2011 20:22. Posts 5721 | Profile Blog # |
On December 25 2011 20:16 poofie wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 20:08 Cyro wrote:
On December 25 2011 20:05 poofie wrote:
I just bought a 2500k for streaming and it works really great, it almost like i can't feel the comp slowing down when i stream.
And i can easy stream out a 1080p stream with it. And the 2600k cost almost twice as much as a 2500k.
With the right set up you can stream at 1920x1080 with even a phenom II x4 with no performance hit inside sc2
Actually i had a Phenom 2 x4 965 BE before i upgraded to a 2500k. And yes you are right, i could stream SC2 without any lagg issues but with other games it my performance could drop a bit but with this 2500k i can't feel any lagg issues or anything. I'm just saying that a 2500k is more than enough for a 1080p stream, so you could save some money if you not buy the 2600k CPU since the 2500k is enough.
Did you set up priorities and CPU core affinity, etc? With windows basic theme in my experience you can stream any game with 2 cores allocated and the others dedicated to system and xsplit, if you are playing a game that wont utilise more than 2 threads you wont see any performance hits whatsoever in my experience.
There is no such thing as "enough" for streaming, as the ~20% performance boost to encoding from hyperthreading will let you stream at either superior quality/framerate, or equal, using less bandwidth. There is not a magic barrier where you simply dont need more CPU power, infact i was considering getting a SB-E 6-core (3930k) for the sole purpose of streaming with super high compression (slower presets, some custom options) as i am severely limited on upload bandwidth in this country. |
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| BBallTime Canada. December 25 2011 20:36. Posts 21 | Profile # |
hey Cyro thanks for all the info,
i read somewhere that xsplit cant make use of hyperthreading but i think thats a few months old so has it changed now?
with its hyperthreading, how much better is the 2600k if i optimise right? Since i also dont have a really great upload... |
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