On May 21 2012 17:16 Zafrumi wrote: there's no way that is 16% bodyfat? Imo you are still too skinny I'm no expert on cutting so sadly I can't tell you why you don't lose as much weight anymore as you used. although I do have a suspicion: Your weight loss slowed down because there isn't much more to lose
anyway, gl with you and your girl! hope you guys live happily ever after
Thanks Zafrumi! Sorry for sounding so eating disorder up in here... I just feel like I have a spare tire around my waist and want to get rid of it.
It's good to be back lifting though.
ShadowDrgn United States. May 21 2012 17:55. Posts 2343
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: + Show Spoiler +
As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat.
As the obese guy, I can only conclude that even perfectly fine looking people have such distorted body images, which is just scary as fuck.
As a long time colleague in this thread I will just say: No, you are not too skinny, but you are very very borderline. There is simply no weight you should lose anymore, you probably don't have visible abs because you have bad genetics or you are too weak. Furthermore, when this is 16% bodyfat, I am the prince of wales. The notion that you don't want to be embarassed coming beach season is completely alien. If I had your body, I would run around in bathing shorts all day for everyone to see. You look fantastic, minus the unfortunate chest-genetics/lack of muscle mass there. But losing weight won't fix these problems anyway.
You remind me of one guy (Caruso or so) who posted twice here, saying he is 1.73 at 58kg, eating 800-1200kcal a day and cannot lose any more weight, and he still felt he had a huge belly (he suggested light bones).
Please don't lose any more weight, before it actually becomes a problem. You are perfectly fine now.
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On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: ...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:
As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.
Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.
So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.
So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?
Dude, yes, you are too skinny oO
You don't need to lose fat, you need to build muscle to fill out. If you don't want to straight bulk, at least go for a recomp, but that dip you got from your ribcage into your gut is not a natural look.
No offense, from the front you just look a bit too skinny but from the side with the shoulderblades sticking out and your gut caving in you look like a prisoner of war :/
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Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Zafrumi Switzerland. May 21 2012 22:09. Posts 1256
first set of squats: 135kgx5 easy peasy second set: 122.5kgx6, still easy third set was supposed to be 110kgx7 then my friends started egging me on, saying that 7 reps is ridiculous. one of them said he would pay me one evening of eating/drinking everything I want if I did a widowmaker (20 reps) with that weight... quite a tempting offer! and I was foolish enough to actually try it after 16 reps, my head felt like it would explode any second. I had to rack the bar because I couldnt bear the pain anymore had to cancel the rest of my workout because the headache just wouldnt go away and my head still hurts now, several hours later
so now I feel bad because I didnt make 20 reps AND because my head hurts like fuck...
on top of that, I should be studying for my exams next month but all I can think about is this one unavailable girl!
in short: FML!
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"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Really demotivated with my lifts lately. Have been trying to gain in lifts while maintaining weight. I didn't want to go much over 160 cause I didn't want to get more fat % for the summer. Anyways since I stopped gaining weight I stopped gaining good strength gains. Either it's because I'm not eating enough or its a mental block. Any good articles on the mental aspect of lifting? Im 5'8 for reference. Might bulk up to 170 and see how it looks.
Was pissed after a workout and blamed on not gaining weight then went out for dinner with my girlfriends family and they looked in awe as I finished full 3 plates of chinese food at the buffet while most of them half finished one LOL.
After this next deload im switching out of stronglifts which I have been doing for 9 months into madcow. Hopefully this change will get me motivated again/will suit my stronger lifts. Gunna stick to the 3 day split as I don't have much time for anything else with this summer term courseload.
Just hoping I can still hit my goals before 2013 QQ. Struggling to get up to my previous "current" bests now. Gah.
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: ...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:
As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.
Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.
So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.
So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?
I'm at 8.5% bodyfat, with less bones visible. 6'2", 150. I'm working to keep gaining, still painfully underweight, and look less like I'm going to fall over dead. If I can find a fucking cable for this camera, I'll post a pic.
Seriously, the only time my abdomen looked like that, I was literally almost dead from malnutrition. Eat some damn food.
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RedJustice United States. May 21 2012 22:56. Posts 999
I am interested in starting to lift. However, I am worried about injuring my joints. I can just slide things right out of socket (doctor said it's genetic as I have been able to do it all my life, all joints)-- hips, shoulders, ankles, elbows just pop out. Some joints this is painful and some not, but I try to avoid it happening regardless.
Will I be fine to try lifting? Will it hurt or help? Should I make any adjustments in light of this?
decafchicken United States. May 21 2012 22:57. Posts 15129
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: ...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:
As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.
Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.
So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.
So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?
A) you're definitely below 16. B) you're not going to look good in a tux OR be able to carry your bride if you don't put some muscle on. Just do a clean bulk if you're worried about getting 'fat'. From one bro with weird ribs to another, get more muscle.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RosaParksStoleMySeat Japan. May 21 2012 23:00. Posts 914
You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.
Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.
@Osmoses
For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.
@Decaf
Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: @Malinor and the group
You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.
Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.
@Osmoses
For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.
@Decaf
Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.
Time to start eating again.
I think I have the same thing as you, Barrel chest, it's so weird sometimes, but mine is less "pronounced"?.
Imma post pics soon and ask for advice here too :D
Go and bulk and put on some good fucking muscle man, it's OUR DUTY AS SQUATTERS.
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Skinny dudes got this problem. I know cuz I was one. If you been skinny your whole life then you start eating and lifting you are going to start getting a stomach. I dont think my BF has changed much but now my stomach seems to stick out a lot more. I guess its obliques ??? Skinny dudes see that and freak out, omg my abs are gone!
I freaked out. My bottom abs have a fat roll. I told my wife and she would get so mad i was worrying about a tiny fat roll on my bottom abdominals. I was thinking my BF% was up around 18. So I started looking at pictures online of people with their BF%. You can find people that are like you. I realized my BF is way lower than i thought. its probably closer to 13-14. So now I dont worry about it.
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: ...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:
As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.
Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.
So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.
So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: @Malinor and the group
You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.
Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.
@Osmoses
For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.
@Decaf
Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.
Time to start eating again.
Oh, didn't realize barrel chest was a real thing. Though from looking at the picture you linked... You don't look anything like that. It's not your chest that goes out, it's your gut that goes in. Maybe that's still a symptom of barrel chest, I dunno, you just look underfed to me.
Keep us posted on bulking-process
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken United States. May 22 2012 02:56. Posts 15129
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: @Malinor and the group
You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.
Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.
@Osmoses
For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.
@Decaf
Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.
Time to start eating again.
Old school beast mode Rosa gogo
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Daigomi South Africa. May 22 2012 03:40. Posts 4301
Contrary to all the whining here, Im becoming a greek demi god.
Last night (today is national festivity in Chile) my gf (2 weeks now ) wanted me to go with her to a birthday party to meet all her friends (I knew only a few); it was clearly a test which I passed with merit . I made sure all girls got drunk by drinking tequila with them, so they all loved me. Got a bit drunk myself aswell, but my gf was more drunk so it was all good. I also wanted to hit on another girl for first time since I have gf so I guess Im human again aswell. Reading girlschase.com helps so much with everything, even if im not into pickup at all. Just understanding girls and controlling my own mood seems to help a lot with everything.
Oh, I also met my gf guy friends. I love them, they are so average. I honestly believe my gf likes me more whenever she is around them
Got home at 4:30 am. Woke up today at 9:30 am (mom woke me up), and
went to gym from 11 to 2pm, incluing stretching at the end. Rested 3:30-4 min between squats and 2-3 minutes in benches. It was so fucking ez I am still creeped out. It took me 3 hours to complete a slightly heavier workout that took me 4 hours 15 minutes to complete 2 weeks ago.
I blame all my success on reading every fucking article on the right side of girlschase.com (ignore ads) and taking vit D pills. They are better than fucking steroids.
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