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 HMzK   January 12 2012 22:40. Posts 74
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I spent all night looking through reviews and unboxing videos of gaming equipment as I am going to upgrade my own gear. I have tried out a lot of mice but that's about it. Currently I am using the Razer DeathAdder which is good, I am kind of tired of it and how big it is though, I have a Steelseries 7G which is amazing but it is kind of broken because I have been using it for almost 2 years, and just got a standard Steelseries QCK+ heavy mousepad and its kind of big.

I have been looking around a lot for some new gear and Ill have to order online because I live in Norway and its really hard to find actual gaming equipment. I was wondering what experiences do you have with gaming equipment. What is in your opinion the best? And what gear have you burned through.



EDIT: Personally I have this in mind if anyone cares. Note that I do want to have all my equipment in one brand, and I have narrowed my options down to these:

1.

Mouse: razer lachesis
Keyboard: razer blackwidow ultimate
Mousepad: razer goliathus speed edition
Headphones(+earplugs): razer megalodon + razer moray
Other: Mouse bungee and Razer keyboardbag

2.

Mouse: ZOWIE EC1
Keyboard: ZOWIE Celeritas
Mousepad: ZOWIE RT
Headphones: ZOWIE Hammer

My third option is basically like a Tt esports package, I havent tried any of their gear at all but it looks pretty good and some pro players use it so I am going to assume thats its decent. I really REALLY like the keyboard bag they have I want to have a keyboard bag because I go to a lot of lans and stuff. I tried to see if I could get my hands on the CJ one but apparently they stopped selling it.
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 reapsen   Germany. January 12 2012 22:50. Posts 421
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I personally am not very fond of razer products. Don't get me wrong, i think the company itself and all they do to support esport is great, but i like my gear to be minimalistic and simple. I don't like green glowing stuff on my desk.

About they Zowie Stuff i can't say anything, its kind of hard to get here in Europe.

Also: why do you want to have all your gear from one brand? That makes no sense to me, tbh

Edit: I am using a Logitech G5 mouse for over 3 years now and still feels like day1. Mousepad is a Steelseries S&S. Keyboard is a Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless and Sennheiser HD 555 headphones.

Everyone of these products i can recommend strongly!
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 AnodyneSea   Jamaica. January 12 2012 22:54. Posts 755
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Gear doesn't matter, you don't need any of this stuff. Just buy something generic you like and get used to it.

If you're going to do this though I would go with Zowie, haven't had good experience with razer products.
Last edit: 2012-01-12 23:03:50
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 HMzK   January 12 2012 22:55. Posts 74
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On January 12 2012 22:50 reapsen wrote:
I personally am not very fond of razer products. Don't get me wrong, i think the company itself and all they do to support esport is great, but i like my gear to be minimalistic and simple. I don't like green glowing stuff on my desk.

About they Zowie Stuff i can't say anything, its kind of hard to get here in Europe.

Also: why do you want to have all your gear from one brand?


Dunno just a thing I have. What gear do you use?
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 reapsen   Germany. January 12 2012 22:56. Posts 421
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On January 12 2012 22:55 HMzK wrote:

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Dunno just a thing I have. What gear do you use?


See my edit Also this thread should probably go into the Tech Support forum
Last edit: 2012-01-12 23:02:52
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  PoisedYeTi   Australia. January 12 2012 23:11. Posts 163Profile # 
The razer products i have had seem cheaply made for their price and have absolutely terrible software support. Don't buy anything with gimmicky addons that require software from them (ie. Razer megalodon, still haven't got a fix out for win7 yet and they are really buggy to use)
I really enjoy using the Razer Abyssus mouse though, it's light simple and has enough analog settings (no software needed) to set it up. I really like it!

The only Zowie product I have owned so far is the cleritas and it's great to use but I haven't had it long enough to tell for sure if it's a keeper.

Last edit: 2012-01-12 23:15:09
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 dextrin303   Sweden. January 12 2012 23:12. Posts 281
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I have a small black steelseries mousepad, dunno what its called.
My headset is a steelseries sibera v2 and its really good, i can recommend it.
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 TeH_CaRnAg3   United States. January 12 2012 23:12. Posts 239
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The razer package you got there is solid. Mainly with the mice make sure the mouse your getting you fully know the size and shape of it, as they can differ heavily. The blackwidow is a fantastical keyboard. Not worth 140 usd for it in my opinion, when the build quality isn't as good as other boards for cheaper. I use a Blackwidow and I love it to death.I switched from a filco with black switches like your 7g, it is quite the noticeable difference at first, the opposite switch type pretty much. But there are other blue switch boards built better and for the same price or cheaper.

Your theme of staying in one brand is ok, I have all razer stuff myself... But your limiting finding the gear right for you.

The zowie package you have there would also be a good setup, the celeritas is a excellent board, i've used it before, not extensively, but it's an excellent brown switch board with fantastical build quality. It really depends on what your looking for in gear, we all have different opinions.

I've used a crap ton of gear, i think we may have the same syndrome, the I want lots of gaming gear syndrome. I have like 600 dollars worth of keyboards, and half that worth of mice. A few different headsets etc. The best gear is the gear you want/like using. Really is the truth. I wanted to use a black switch board when I started playing because idra used the 6gv2, but it was dumb because I didn't know anything about mech boards at the time and I am battling early stages of CTS and black switches are no good when your playing nonstop as a over 200apm zerg. It really destroyed my hands. But we are all different, might not be the same for you. But something to consider if you have hand/wrist/cts issues.

Blue switch boards for me are excellent(blackwidow) because they require next to no pressure to press, and doesn't aggravate my hands at all. And feels very "flowy" If that is a real word when macroing. Blackwidow is a great board, but if you really want a good blue switch board, and your in europe, go for a das ultimate in my opinion. Same switch type, but better built keyboard overall.

Zowie celeritas would be my recommended brown switch board. Das for blue switches, and if you want another black switch board i'd get a 6gv2 or a filco. I have a filco and it's the toughest keyboard i've seen/felt/used.

As for mice, it really comes down to the SHAPE of it. DPI settings and all that don't mean nearly as much as the shape. It HAS to be comfortable for you and fit your hand. That being said, i'll tell you the mice i've used. Currently using the razer abyssus, this mouse is small, with mose of the weight being in the back of the mouse(note that the deathadders weight tends to learn more towards the middle-front of the mouse). The sensor is excellent as well as the drivers for it. You can really customize your sensitivity to your preference with a combo of windows settings(6th bar and under of course), driver settings, and in game settings. It works really well on cloth or fabric mouse pads but i've had a bit of trouble on hardmats with it. That being said it's a great mouse and very precise if you either have smaller hands, or just use a fingertip grip.

Steelseries sensei, i've used, but I don't own it. It feels like a AMAZING mouse, and felt so much more responsive than any other mouse i've used, and i've used the kinzu,deathadder,abyssus,spectre, mx518, and 1 or 2 others. I will be getting this mouse for myself soon.

headsets are similar, what you want (buds or overear) and quality for your money. Steelseries makes great headsets in their siberia and 7h. But i don't really know asmuch about headsets so i'll leave that up to you to figure out.


Generally my opinion is don't worry about mix matching brands, just get the gear you think your going to enjoy using. And enjoy it!


Hope I helped, sorry of mistakes in grammer/spelling and this wall of text. Just trying to help!

Sticking with 1 brand is cool and stuff, i'm a razer fanboy in that regard at the moment. But really look at everything that is out there as you have been doing and pick what ever gear you think your going to like. From any company.

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 HMzK   January 12 2012 23:17. Posts 74
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On January 12 2012 23:12 TeH_CaRnAg3 wrote:
The razer package you got there is solid. Mainly with the mice make sure the mouse your getting you fully know the size and shape of it, as they can differ heavily. The blackwidow is a fantastical keyboard. Not worth 140 usd for it in my opinion, when the build quality isn't as good as other boards for cheaper. I use a Blackwidow and I love it to death.I switched from a filco with black switches like your 7g, it is quite the noticeable difference at first, the opposite switch type pretty much. But there are other blue switch boards built better and for the same price or cheaper.

Your theme of staying in one brand is ok, I have all razer stuff myself... But your limiting finding the gear right for you.

The zowie package you have there would also be a good setup, the celeritas is a excellent board, i've used it before, not extensively, but it's an excellent brown switch board with fantastical build quality. It really depends on what your looking for in gear, we all have different opinions.

I've used a crap ton of gear, i think we may have the same syndrome, the I want lots of gaming gear syndrome. I have like 600 dollars worth of keyboards, and half that worth of mice. A few different headsets etc. The best gear is the gear you want/like using. Really is the truth. I wanted to use a black switch board when I started playing because idra used the 6gv2, but it was dumb because I didn't know anything about mech boards at the time and I am battling early stages of CTS and black switches are no good when your playing nonstop as a over 200apm zerg. It really destroyed my hands. But we are all different, might not be the same for you. But something to consider if you have hand/wrist/cts issues.

Blue switch boards for me are excellent(blackwidow) because they require next to no pressure to press, and doesn't aggravate my hands at all. And feels very "flowy" If that is a real word when macroing. Blackwidow is a great board, but if you really want a good blue switch board, and your in europe, go for a das ultimate in my opinion. Same switch type, but better built keyboard overall.

Zowie celeritas would be my recommended brown switch board. Das for blue switches, and if you want another black switch board i'd get a 6gv2 or a filco. I have a filco and it's the toughest keyboard i've seen/felt/used.

As for mice, it really comes down to the SHAPE of it. DPI settings and all that don't mean nearly as much as the shape. It HAS to be comfortable for you and fit your hand. That being said, i'll tell you the mice i've used. Currently using the razer abyssus, this mouse is small, with mose of the weight being in the back of the mouse(note that the deathadders weight tends to learn more towards the middle-front of the mouse). The sensor is excellent as well as the drivers for it. You can really customize your sensitivity to your preference with a combo of windows settings(6th bar and under of course), driver settings, and in game settings. It works really well on cloth or fabric mouse pads but i've had a bit of trouble on hardmats with it. That being said it's a great mouse and very precise if you either have smaller hands, or just use a fingertip grip.

Steelseries sensei, i've used, but I don't own it. It feels like a AMAZING mouse, and felt so much more responsive than any other mouse i've used, and i've used the kinzu,deathadder,abyssus,spectre, mx518, and 1 or 2 others. I will be getting this mouse for myself soon.

headsets are similar, what you want (buds or overear) and quality for your money. Steelseries makes great headsets in their siberia and 7h. But i don't really know asmuch about headsets so i'll leave that up to you to figure out.


Generally my opinion is don't worry about mix matching brands, just get the gear you think your going to enjoy using. And enjoy it!


Hope I helped, sorry of mistakes in grammer/spelling and this wall of text. Just trying to help!

Sticking with 1 brand is cool and stuff, i'm a razer fanboy in that regard at the moment. But really look at everything that is out there as you have been doing and pick what ever gear you think your going to like. From any company.




Holy shit lol. Yeah I think we have the same syndrome. I actually heard that the Blackwidow has somewhat laggy buttons compared to the 7G, the Zowie Celeritas seems very familiar with the 7G which is why I am looking in to it. U havent had any lag with it?
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 scruffeh   England. January 12 2012 23:17. Posts 196
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I reckon that a good mechanical keyboard should last indefinitely, I've had cheapo keyboards last for 5 years before, so would question the Steelseries' build quality (or maybe you were just very unlucky). My experience of Razer is that they are more style than substance, although the Deathadder is a decent mouse. I'd rather get a decent pair of headphones (Sennheiser or something), a Filco keyboard, Logitech mouse, albeit a gaming one. I think you're limiting yourself by sticking to one brand.

I used to play quakeworld competitively, at about the same time the first Razer Mouse was introduced (Boomslang), and their first sponsored player (Sujoy Roy). The first gaming mousemats, such as the Everglide. I've seen the gaming peripheral market really develop from nothing, and whilst I completely appreciate all the sponsoring that companies like Razer and Steelseries do, I think it's often more about the flashing lights, marketing and high prices.
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 Rikke   Germany. January 12 2012 23:17. Posts 302
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Its a waste of money if you don't play competetive. 5€ Keyboard and a solid mouse like MX518 ftw
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 TeH_CaRnAg3   United States. January 12 2012 23:22. Posts 239
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On January 12 2012 23:17 HMzK wrote:

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Holy shit lol. Yeah I think we have the same syndrome. I actually heard that the Blackwidow has somewhat laggy buttons compared to the 7G, the Zowie Celeritas seems very familiar with the 7G which is why I am looking in to it. U havent had any lag with it?

Yah i've heard this as well, but I haven't had any issues at all yet with mine, i've been using it 12+ hours a day for over 2 months now. zowie celeritas would be an excellent choice of board no doubt about it. Brown switches are quite good and it'll be a slightly less different board than going from black switches in the 7g to blue in the blackwidow. If you want a straight up quality setup, not flashy or anything. I would have a zowie celeritas, or filco keyboard. Steelseries sensei, and a steelseries mouse pad.

Like I said I haven't had or messed around with that many headsets so i'm not exactly sure whats the best quality. But the steelseries siberia is reallly nice.
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  NeoIllusions   United States. January 12 2012 23:23. Posts 17815Profile Blog # 
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 drezi   Iceland. January 12 2012 23:25. Posts 72
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Got my first mx518 some years ago, my favorite mouse by far, mainly played cod4 and now sc2, have had to replace it once in like 6-7 years
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  Synwave   United States. January 12 2012 23:29. Posts 2738Profile # 
Out of curiosity how difficult is it to clean a mechanical keyboard?
Im not messier than the average user but after a year or so my keyboard gets pretty gunked up and I have to disassemble it to clean it. Are mechanical keyboards easily taken apart and do you have to get into each key to clean it?
Silly question I know but since this thread is up and people are discussing them I figured it might not hurt to ask.

As far as mices (meeces...mooses?) go I have a Razor Deathadder which I really like so I can at least give a positive thumbs up for that product. I haven't used the other Razor products however so this is a very specific endorsement.
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  tUUTZ   Finland. January 12 2012 23:30. Posts 122Profile # 
Why would you need all the gear from the same manufacturer? I would also stay far away from razer. Every piece of my gaming set is from a different manufacturer:
Mouse: Zowie EC1
Mousepad: Puretrak Talent/Steelseries QCK+ Fnatic Edition laying under my Majestouch
KB: Filco Majestouch 2 w/ MX Browns
Headphones: AKG K272 HD


On January 12 2012 23:29 Synwave wrote:
Out of curiosity how difficult is it to clean a mechanical keyboard?
Im not messier than the average user but after a year or so my keyboard gets pretty gunked up and I have to disassemble it to clean it. Are mechanical keyboards easily taken apart and do you have to get into each key to clean it?
Silly question I know but since this thread is up and people are discussing them I figured it might not hurt to ask.

I took all my keycaps off a few days back with bare hands. Blew into the keyboard to get rid of the dust, I don't have food or anything in there.
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 Inz`   Scotland. January 12 2012 23:46. Posts 97
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I have used a number of gear from razer/steelseries and I've stuck with steelseries just out of personal preference.

Mice -

Microsoft intelli 3.0: This mouse is highly recommended by others but I don't really think it's all that, sure it was comfy if you like holding your mouse with a high arch and slightly wonky (afaik ZOWIE purchased the rights to this and have their own version) I personally wouldn't recommend this mouse.

Razer Deathadder: The mouse itself is very tall, you can really feel how high the arch on the mouse is from the very first use. The sides of the mouse are very slippy and hard to grip. I found myself using tape to get a decent grip on the mouse. Overall it was just too big of a mouse for me to use however the response from the mouse itself was fantastic.

Steelseries XAI: My current mouse of choice, I've had a very good experience with this mouse. Although it's big in size you don't really feel it that much. It's rather light and easy to move around but not light enough that you're lifting it off your mousepad when you move. The mouse offers 2 buttons on each side of the mouse the only problem i've had with this mouse was getting used to the position of the buttons on the opposite side of my thumb. At first it felt very awkward as my pinky finger would hit them and cause it to rub against it. After a while my pinky either got tougher or my hand no longer hits the button.
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Keyboards -

Razer tarantula: I used this keyboard for around 1 and a half years, Overall the keyboard was good but there were a vast number of down points. The wrist rest is stagnant and the overall keyboard build is bulky. It takes up so much room on your desk. Lastly the position of the wrist rest and the nature of the keyboard had my hands tilted in a weird position. It felt like I was using a laptop keyboard except my fingers dipped much lower when typing. But onto the good points, It had a vast number of extra keys and every key could be remapped and some could have macro's applied to them which was awesome for games like CS, WoW and fear. Wouldn't recommend this keyboard however.

Steelseries 7G: The 7G was my first mechanical keyboard and there was a lot of hype surrounding this keyboard. I would say about 99% of the hype is true. It doesn't make you amazing at games but it will probably be your best experience with a keyboard. The keys are hyper responsive which takes some time getting used to and can be removed so this is very easy for cleaning. The wrist rest that comes with it is optional but I found the rest to be insanely helpful at first it helped a lot of problems with my wrists. However when using the wrist rest it was really difficult to hit the F1 keys and move around the board. It does come with extra usb ports and headphone jacks which is good but not a tipping point. Overall it's amazing if you're looking to spend money spend it on this. fnatic sell it for pretty cheap so check there site out and you might be surprised you can afford it. However the 6G v2 offers pretty similar deals excluding the wrist rest and a few more options check out the website if you want to be savvy.

Mousepads -

Razer Goliathus: Razer has never appealed to me but I've tried their products, this mousepad didn't last very long however as I had to change it due to a few points. You can get different sizes but i'll let you in on a secret, Small is way too small even for starcraft. Medium is almost there in size and width and XL is overkill. It's hard to find a pad that will satisfy your size desire unless you're TT1 and can cut that shit up. However onto the actual mousepad. The speed edition was a very silky smooth cloth. too silky infact I found it very annoying that my mouse would just shoot off the pad whenever I tried to move my mouse side to side. The control version as well was a very rough pad. It was extremely bumpy and very annoying. May as well use sandpaper.

Steelseries QCK: This mousepad was one of the best cloth pads i've ever had the pleasure of using. It hit the right spot between smooth and rough. It was very responsive and worked well with pretty much every mouse I used. The sizes however were almost perfect, The standard QCK is basically a medium sizes mousepad. the QCK+ Is way to big unless you're maybe an FPS gamer and playing on low sensativity. The XL will fit your dining table. Overtime the mousepad does become less effective as you will notice your mouse is starting to ware a little bit however It's not so much that would merit a new pad unless you're the type of person who can't stand anything with a little bit of ware.

Steelseries 9HD: My current choice of mousepad. If im correct this mousepad was made with the XAI so naturally they should fit each other pretty well and they do. The mousepad had a non slip bottom much like every cloth pad out there on the market but what I found was amazing is that the size is pretty much perfect. Not too big and not too small (there is a small option available if you really want to go that small called the 4HD). With many plastic pads people are scare that all they're going to hear is the scratching sound of your mouse dragging across the mousepad and with this you can hear it but it isn’t as bad as you would think.

Headset -

Many people out there use these small ipod headphones or regular overhead headset with big fuzzy mics and I myself have used my fair share of these however over time I learned one thing those big microphones on the side of your headset will without a doubt cause you pain and those big headsets will hurt your ears and will give you more headaches than you can imagin.

Steelseries Siberia V1: When I took the plundge and got myself a pair of gaming headphones I looked at these for a while and I can tell you this is the comfiest headset I have ever used.
they are very lightweight however you’re aware you still have them on so you’re probably not going to walk away from your computer and get dragged back by some cord. They are an open pair of headphones so expect to hear someone talking normally from across the room. The ear cups go around your ears and have some type of rough padded cloth material around the ear cups. The microphone is also retractable. It comes out of the left ear cup and is very neat when out. The sound quality is good but the outside noises can and will cause problems if you want to feel isolated. The design of the headset is what I like most there is a leather type material band creating a bridge between the headset and this is what adjusts to your head. Until you’ve tried something similar you won’t know what perfect fit feels like. The cord is cased in plastic and can be extended by a fair length if you’re PC is at some distance from your headset.

Steelseries siberia V2: I enjoyed the first so much that I decided to get the upgraded version. This version comes with the same design in microphone and headset. The changes are upgrades sound, If you want the specs then go to the website and see what the actual figures are. The ear cup has changed as it’s not covered in leather. These headphones are now a closed type headset and will offer noise reduction. You’re still able to hear people on the outside but it’s a very muffled sound. I haven’t experience many other different gaming headsets however after trying these I will be very hesitant to try any other brand or type of headset unless it’s free and that’s a good feeling to have in this case.

Long but detailed as possible. Did this on my lunch break so If you have any specific questions just PM me and I’ll do my best to give you an answer.
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 Stiluz   Norway. January 12 2012 23:55. Posts 685
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Go for what you feel comfortable, but regarding the headsets, consider a non-gaming one. Most gaming headsets are gimmicky and doesn't deliver good sound compared to something like a Sennheiser one in the price same range (nothing wrong with using a desktop microphone).
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  Synwave   United States. January 13 2012 00:02. Posts 2738Profile # 

On January 12 2012 23:30 tUUTZ wrote:
Why would you need all the gear from the same manufacturer? I would also stay far away from razer. Every piece of my gaming set is from a different manufacturer:
Mouse: Zowie EC1
Mousepad: Puretrak Talent/Steelseries QCK+ Fnatic Edition laying under my Majestouch
KB: Filco Majestouch 2 w/ MX Browns
Headphones: AKG K272 HD


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I took all my keycaps off a few days back with bare hands. Blew into the keyboard to get rid of the dust, I don't have food or anything in there.


Excellent thank you, Ive tried looking for a mechanical keyboard locally but no one carries them so I haven't been able to see how easily they clean. Appreciate the information, I play on buying one this spring when money is more free.
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 ROOTT1   Canada. January 13 2012 07:26. Posts 5621
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i would go with the zowie pack because the blackwindow is a horrible keyboard, all the gear on your zowie list is good(never tried the mousepad tho, not that big of a deal anyways) but i dont understand why ud pick the ec1 over the ec2 if ur looking for a smaller mouse, the ec2 is a smaller sized palm grippable mouse

tbh u shouldnt get all ur gear from 1 company.. really narrows down ur choices tt, if ur looking for the best of the best go with:

keyboard: topre/noppoo choc mini (id pick the white noppoo pbt board over a topre anyday tho)

mouse: depends on ur grip/if u like an egronomic or ambidextrous design, from the looks of it ur a palm gripper so id stick with the da but the sensei/g400/g500 are good choices aswell but if u want something smaller than the da(finding good medium shapped palm grippable mice is pretty hard) then id go with a xai/sensei/ec2, depending on how big ur hands are u might be able to palm grip an abyssus too

mousepad: again depends on wat surface u like to play on but if ur a cloth pad user then id go for the artisan hayate(impossible to get tho), puretrack talent and zowie g-tf + p-tf(smaller version of the gtf) are also good pads

headset: very debatable but u cant go wrong with a Sennheiser PC 350
Last edit: 2012-01-13 08:06:37
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