| Cwave Netherlands. January 27 2012 01:25. Posts 313 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 01:04 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 00:00 Cwave wrote:
On January 26 2012 23:37 Radfield wrote:
Almost Certainly Town
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Likely Town
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Leaning Town
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Did you really just post this.... Like seriously?!?!?! ##VOTE: Radfield
I am ok with policy lynching this VI
Name calling AND playing bad start day1.
Nice redFF, way to be usefull!
How about you actually post something of content. Do you think my opinion on the list being used as a possible rank system for mafia is bad/wrong/whatever?
If so, why then?
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| Zephirdd Brazil. January 27 2012 01:30. Posts 4502 | Profile Blog # |
I still want to know what the fuck a VI is...
And you are still overcomplicating things with that list, which by the way isn't even necessary as pointed out by BH. |
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| Blazinghand United States. January 27 2012 01:32. Posts 12097 | Profile Blog # |
On January 27 2012 01:19 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh snap did cwave scumslip hard right there or what
Make a point instead of posting useless crap like this and don't spam one-liners and get yourself in trouble again like the previous games you played. What on earth did i do wrong for finding that list and the actions of Radfield scummy as fuck?
I have never been in trouble for spamming. I am notorious however for enormous multi day tunnels on scum players.
The problem isn't finding Radfield scummy. The problem is that your reasons for soing so are bad and unsupported. You are creating an environment in which it is more difficult to hunt scum. Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you, or honestly like any town player. |
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| Blazinghand United States. January 27 2012 01:33. Posts 12097 | Profile Blog # |
On January 27 2012 01:25 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:04 redFF wrote:
On January 27 2012 00:00 Cwave wrote:
On January 26 2012 23:37 Radfield wrote:
Almost Certainly Town
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Likely Town
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Leaning Town
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Null
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Scummy
Fee
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Did you really just post this.... Like seriously?!?!?! ##VOTE: Radfield
I am ok with policy lynching this VI
Name calling AND playing bad start day1. Nice redFF, way to be usefull! How about you actually post something of content. Do you think my opinion on the list being used as a possible rank system for mafia is bad/wrong/whatever? If so, why then?
Ive already taken apart your critique of his list. Address that. |
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| Cwave Netherlands. January 27 2012 01:35. Posts 313 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 01:30 Zephirdd wrote:
I still want to know what the fuck a VI is...
I had to mafia wiki it...
Sometimes, successful lynching of the "Village Idiot" results in the mafia being able to kill two people that night.
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| redFF United States. January 27 2012 01:36. Posts 3889 | Profile Blog # |
VI stands for village idiot and it means dumb/bad player who is detrimental to town regardless of alignment.
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| redFF United States. January 27 2012 01:37. Posts 3889 | Profile Blog # |
On January 27 2012 01:35 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:30 Zephirdd wrote:
I still want to know what the fuck a VI is...
I had to mafia wiki it... Sometimes, successful lynching of the "Village Idiot" results in the mafia being able to kill two people that night.
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| Cwave Netherlands. January 27 2012 01:39. Posts 313 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 01:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:19 Cwave wrote:
On January 27 2012 01:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh snap did cwave scumslip hard right there or what
Make a point instead of posting useless crap like this and don't spam one-liners and get yourself in trouble again like the previous games you played. What on earth did i do wrong for finding that list and the actions of Radfield scummy as fuck?
I have never been in trouble for spamming. I am notorious however for enormous multi day tunnels on scum players. The problem isn't finding Radfield scummy. The problem is that your reasons for soing so are bad and unsupported. You are creating an environment in which it is more difficult to hunt scum. Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you, or honestly like any town player.
That something is unsupported is by no means a reason to drop my opinion on it and the fact i find it a scum move.
If its debunked or im convinced it is a bad idea i can surely drop the matter but noone has done so far.
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Radfield  Canada. January 27 2012 01:56. Posts 2680 | Profile # |
You have to be joking Cwave -_-
On the bright side, Cwave was kinda bad during election mafia too(he tunneled me all game), and threw around pretty random accusations. Tragically it's par for the course so far.
Very possible his 5 words thing is a scum-slip, but also possible that he pulled it from hesmyrr's post as he said.
Jackal, I'd like to see you post at least 5 or 6 more times during Day1. |
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| Hesmyrr Canada. January 27 2012 01:57. Posts 4177 | Profile # |
Cwave is silly, but he feels town (I know I know but seriously mafia will not NK VI) not scum. Waited a little to see how people would react. Blazinghand, you said "Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you". Can you explain that further using the meta? Also not sure if redFF is serious. |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. January 27 2012 01:59. Posts 4502 | Profile Blog # |
Oh found it.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Village_Idiot
"Village Idiot (VI for short) is slang for a player who seems to habitually say or do the wrong things, then not understand the consequences of saying them. Most of the time, this tendency is due to inexperience with the game. Other times, it is due to poor intelligence or social skills on the part of the player. Still other times, the person saying these wrong things really is scum. "
His quote comes from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28party_game%29
Which is a poor source of information TBH, especially when making bold statements like he did.
Cwave, by "unsupported" he means that your arguments hold no support for you, not that other players don't support it. |
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| Blazinghand United States. January 27 2012 02:03. Posts 12097 | Profile Blog # |
Oh i just don't particularly recall cwave being a flaming moron.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and call him out for being scum. The fact that he even now has not appripriately addressed my takedown of his critique does lend some credence to the moron theory but he's probably just scum trying to dodge. |
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| Hesmyrr Canada. January 27 2012 02:04. Posts 4177 | Profile # |
@Radfield
##Vote bumatlarge
his first post is just bad like many pointed out. Surprised no one decided to lean over him for it -_-
In fact, Radfield, why did you not vote him then (therefore encouraging more discussion)? lends more credence to your big-post-intended-to-coach-scum theory.
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| Jackal58 United States. January 27 2012 02:08. Posts 4264 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 01:56 Radfield wrote:
You have to be joking Cwave -_-
On the bright side, Cwave was kinda bad during election mafia too(he tunneled me all game), and threw around pretty random accusations. Tragically it's par for the course so far.
Very possible his 5 words thing is a scum-slip, but also possible that he pulled it from hesmyrr's post as he said.
Jackal, I'd like to see you post at least 5 or 6 more times during Day1.
You gonna number them for me?
I don't know why you guys are voting for Cwave. He's right. That doesn't mean Radfield is scum but Cwave is correct in that if he is Radfield is slowly assembling parts of a key. And Radfield probably is scum. |
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| Radfield Canada. January 27 2012 02:09. Posts 2680 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 00:15 Hesmyrr wrote:Agree with no town read strategy, but looking over redFF's posts anyone could have validly brought up the "no scum" point so his behaviour is null-read for me. For example bumatlarge mentions it too and statement goes unchallenged... because it was less aggressive? I've seen too many times where people are lynched for arguing against town popular opinion. Also, ##Vote bumatlargehis first post is just bad like many pointed out. Surprised no one decided to lean over him for it -_- In fact, Radfield, why did you not vote him then (therefore encouraging more discussion)? lends more credence to your big-post-intended-to-coach-scum theory. Cwave. What bad wording specifically?
I didn't vote him for several reasons, mostly because I think voting early and often hurts ones credibility. However, I DO think Bum is a good lynch so far. Lets break it down:
* He made a post referencing that he thinks there are 5 mafia members. As I pointed out, this is one way for mafia to communicate. However, players do this all the time at the start of games with hidden mafia counts, so it is hardly damning.
On January 26 2012 13:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I get the "calling people town" gig, but how would mafia figure out who each other are based on speculation? I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake?
Mafia are going to find mafia based on reads rather then hints I would think. And above those, broadcasts are going to give them an edge. Seems kinda pointless.
I would be curious as to what GGQ and jackal would know to look out for in the first game, but jackal was LOL, and GGQ for all intent and purpose was a townie.
If you're looking for hidden breadcrumbs, this one jumps right out at you. Read that line, out of context it actually says "I could hint that I'm scum"
He also calls my suggestions pointless, even though it seem he understands them.
He also makes a random sentance about wanting Jackal/GGQ's advice while simultaneously mentioning that the advice would be pretty worthless.
These are all pretty minor things, but added up they constitute a slight case. |
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| Cwave Netherlands. January 27 2012 02:12. Posts 313 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 02:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh i just don't particularly recall cwave being a flaming moron.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and call him out for being scum. The fact that he even now has not appripriately addressed my takedown of his critique does lend some credence to the moron theory but he's probably just scum trying to dodge.
Was done with work and biking home. Don't mistake not instant replying with dodging please!
My critique is that Radfield gave a tool for scum to communicate. One of the things our town has on scum is that they don't know who is scum and who is town. For them, there is a chance that they kill of one of their own. By giving them such a ranking list, i feel that it makes it a whole lot easier to coordinate a murder for them.
Your takedown is "your ideas are not supported" aka "the list Radfield made isn't scummy"?
I feel i'm right on this. |
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| Radfield Canada. January 27 2012 02:13. Posts 2680 | Profile # |
On January 27 2012 02:08 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:56 Radfield wrote:
You have to be joking Cwave -_-
On the bright side, Cwave was kinda bad during election mafia too(he tunneled me all game), and threw around pretty random accusations. Tragically it's par for the course so far.
Very possible his 5 words thing is a scum-slip, but also possible that he pulled it from hesmyrr's post as he said.
Jackal, I'd like to see you post at least 5 or 6 more times during Day1.
You gonna number them for me? I don't know why you guys are voting for Cwave. He's right. That doesn't mean Radfield is scum but Cwave is correct in that if he is Radfield is slowly assembling parts of a key. And Radfield probably is scum.
Yeah I can keep track if you like :D
You have a tendency to coast as scum. This is something you surely agree with. I'd like to see you not coast.
On January 27 2012 01:57 Hesmyrr wrote:
Cwave is silly, but he feels town (I know I know but seriously mafia will not NK VI) not scum. Waited a little to see how people would react. Blazinghand, you said "Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you". Can you explain that further using the meta? Also not sure if redFF is serious.
Agreed. Blazinghand what other games have you played with Cwave? |
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| Blazinghand United States. January 27 2012 02:27. Posts 12097 | Profile Blog # |
On January 27 2012 02:13 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 02:08 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 27 2012 01:56 Radfield wrote:
You have to be joking Cwave -_-
On the bright side, Cwave was kinda bad during election mafia too(he tunneled me all game), and threw around pretty random accusations. Tragically it's par for the course so far.
Very possible his 5 words thing is a scum-slip, but also possible that he pulled it from hesmyrr's post as he said.
Jackal, I'd like to see you post at least 5 or 6 more times during Day1.
You gonna number them for me? I don't know why you guys are voting for Cwave. He's right. That doesn't mean Radfield is scum but Cwave is correct in that if he is Radfield is slowly assembling parts of a key. And Radfield probably is scum.
Yeah I can keep track if you like :D You have a tendency to coast as scum. This is something you surely agree with. I'd like to see you not coast.
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:57 Hesmyrr wrote:
Cwave is silly, but he feels town (I know I know but seriously mafia will not NK VI) not scum. Waited a little to see how people would react. Blazinghand, you said "Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you". Can you explain that further using the meta? Also not sure if redFF is serious.
Agreed. Blazinghand what other games have you played with Cwave?
Purgatory Mafia. He didn't play particularly well there but I wouldn't characterize his actions as moronical either.
On January 27 2012 02:12 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 02:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh i just don't particularly recall cwave being a flaming moron.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and call him out for being scum. The fact that he even now has not appripriately addressed my takedown of his critique does lend some credence to the moron theory but he's probably just scum trying to dodge.
Was done with work and biking home. Don't mistake not instant replying with dodging please! My critique is that Radfield gave a tool for scum to communicate. One of the things our town has on scum is that they don't know who is scum and who is town. For them, there is a chance that they kill of one of their own. By giving them such a ranking list, i feel that it makes it a whole lot easier to coordinate a murder for them. Your takedown is "your ideas are not supported" aka "the list Radfield made isn't scummy"? I feel i'm right on this.
"dodge" for me isn't "not instant reply"
it's "ignoring blazinghand's takedown"
On January 27 2012 01:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh yes good point there's no way they could just say blazing townish cwave town penis without that code
Oh no wait they can totes do that np
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| iGrok United States. January 27 2012 02:38. Posts 4221 | Profile Blog # |
Radfield gets a Brownie Point for referencing Balrog. Brownie Points have no impact on the game, but he now has one! Carry on.
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