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| calippo Sweden. January 18 2012 16:02. Posts 308 | Profile # |
Starting to wonder what kind of contracts they actually have when this keeps happening over and over.
Great pickup for fnatic if its true tho. |
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| Gary Oak Canada. January 18 2012 16:03. Posts 2116 | Profile # |
Poor TSL...
Best of luck to all parties involved. |
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| Xivsa Ecuador. January 18 2012 16:03. Posts 974 | Profile # |
| Need more better information. If it's true, sucks for TSL. Hope the situation clears up for all sides and that no one loses too much face. |
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| Tommylew Wales. January 18 2012 16:04. Posts 2701 | Profile Blog # |
| lee is just kicking up a fuss, one of his best players has just left for another team wihtout him being able to do anything about it!!! |
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| VirgilSC2 United States. January 18 2012 16:06. Posts 5743 | Profile Blog # |
Considering I had multiple sources confirm the aLive > Fnatic thing independently, I'm finding it hard to believe what ToD posted.
Sorry ToD. |
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| FidoDido United States. January 18 2012 16:06. Posts 1281 | Profile # |
| Hate to rain on the fire but looks like this type of killer drama might be the end of TSL and alive. |
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| drgonzhere United States. January 18 2012 16:06. Posts 447 | Profile # |
| I really want to like coach lee, but can't he handle these situations a bit better? |
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| TAAF Switzerland. January 18 2012 16:09. Posts 224 | Profile # |
| I just find it weird that it's always TSL and no one else, seems to be something wrong with TSL not with the other teams... |
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 Fionn United States. January 18 2012 16:09. Posts 16210 | Profile Blog # |
| So for tonight's games will Alive be wearing a TSL jacket, a Fnatic jersey and a Switzerland hat? |
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| taLbuk Madagascar. January 18 2012 16:09. Posts 1447 | Profile # |
| Haha funny how drastic the comments are compaired to when EG "poached" PuMa, that thread looked like a war while this one is pretty tame, funny. but for the better. |
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| Wolf Korea (South). January 18 2012 16:12. Posts 3038 | Profile Blog # |
On January 18 2012 15:57 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 15:52 Wolf wrote:
I talked to Lee in person about this a few times. I can't believe people think this is because TSL is 'mismanaged'. That's actually so crazy, even with the rumours that have arisen.
So the stuff that Rekrul says, like: or:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 04:59 Rekrul wrote:
Even after he originally stole FD and Tester and everyone kinda just let it go and didn't make a big deal about it for the greater good of the growth of SC2 in Korea, Coach Lee was notorious for doing things like going ape shit bitching about very minuscule things such as how many players/which players can get to sit in the team area during matches, which left other coaches and GomTV staff wondering "what the fuck is wrong with this guy?"
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Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 19:41 Rekrul wrote:
Coach Lee is a hypocrite and a liar. The way he stole Fruitdealer and Tester from OGS in the past was far worse in terms of deceit, lack of business ethics, and backstabbing.
It's not my place to go into details, but all I can say is: Karma is a bitch.
That's all hearsay? I mean, I've followed Mama Bear since MBC, and always liked him, but there has to be more shit going on behind the scenes.
It's MUCH more complicated than Rekrul summed up. Of course 'shit goes on' behind the scenes, but no one who is posting in this thread knows about it. |
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| RaE21 United States. January 18 2012 16:12. Posts 260 | Profile # |
ah poor coach lee...I know he is a great coach and people probably are going to read this and actions coach lee takes and hate on him. TSL is a great team (Polt is one of my favorite players), and that this crap keeps happening over and over is really unfair. If what coach lee says is true, alive and Fnatic really are pulling rather unprofessional antics  |
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| DarkPlasmaBall United States. January 18 2012 16:13. Posts 19998 | Profile Blog # |
On January 18 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
So for tonight's games will Alive be wearing a TSL jacket, a Fnatic jersey and a Switzerland hat?
Good point... it'll surely be solved in two hours  |
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| Bagi January 18 2012 16:13. Posts 5865 | Profile # |
| Starting to see a pattern with this "Coach Lee" guy. |
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| parazice Thailand. January 18 2012 16:14. Posts 3333 | Profile # |
| yes after mTw now we have Tsl drama Last edit: 2012-01-18 16:14:16 |
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| lichter January 18 2012 16:14. Posts 5181 | Profile # |
| Getting a 403 from the link =/ |
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| Phobbers January 18 2012 16:14. Posts 769 | Profile # |
On January 18 2012 15:22 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 15:20 Phobbers wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:09 Arceus wrote:
I can see aLive going 0-4 this afternoon and soon disappearing without a trace. Thats what is happening with FD/Tester/Rain/Jyp/SangHo and Puma (forever Code B) to a lesser extent (Clide is another case)
I mean, thats what you get for leaving for cash and relaxing practice.
TSL is not doomed by any means
To be fair, FD faded away far before leaving TSL. Also, Puma has indeed been Code B for quite some time, but he actually has only attempted the Code A qualifiers once if I recall, and I wouldn't say he is disappearing without a trace considering he ranks in at #5 of most prize money won in 2011 and that money has come from recent events.
Bolded statement is incorrect. I've seen him at 2 of them. I will assume its more than 2.
I stand corrected, but also I believe he has not attempted the qualifiers more than twice. |
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| jestlolk January 18 2012 16:16. Posts 52 | Profile # |
There has to be some problem with TSL specifically and how they contact and/or treat their players. How can this be coincidence anymore when almost every former highly performing TSL player is now on another team.
SlayerS Clide
Fnatic Alive
Fnatic Rain
ST_FruitDealer
ST_Trickster
EG PuMa
EG JYP
SangHo is gone and is rumored to be waiting for an offer from a foreign team?
At this point is it not clearly Coach Lee's fault for not having his players properly contracted? I felt sorry for them the first 3 or 4 times they lost players to other teams, but at this point I don't think anyone can possibly be to blame but the TSL management themselves.Last edit: 2012-01-18 16:17:46 |
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 how2TL January 18 2012 16:16. Posts 1063 | Profile # |
On January 18 2012 16:12 Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 15:57 Qaatar wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:52 Wolf wrote:
I talked to Lee in person about this a few times. I can't believe people think this is because TSL is 'mismanaged'. That's actually so crazy, even with the rumours that have arisen.
So the stuff that Rekrul says, like:
On August 14 2011 15:37 Rekrul wrote:
P.s. fuck oops lee still.
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On August 05 2011 04:59 Rekrul wrote:
Even after he originally stole FD and Tester and everyone kinda just let it go and didn't make a big deal about it for the greater good of the growth of SC2 in Korea, Coach Lee was notorious for doing things like going ape shit bitching about very minuscule things such as how many players/which players can get to sit in the team area during matches, which left other coaches and GomTV staff wondering "what the fuck is wrong with this guy?"
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On July 22 2011 19:41 Rekrul wrote:
Coach Lee is a hypocrite and a liar. The way he stole Fruitdealer and Tester from OGS in the past was far worse in terms of deceit, lack of business ethics, and backstabbing.
It's not my place to go into details, but all I can say is: Karma is a bitch.
That's all hearsay? I mean, I've followed Mama Bear since MBC, and always liked him, but there has to be more shit going on behind the scenes.
It's MUCH more complicated than Rekrul summed up. Of course 'shit goes on' behind the scenes, but no one who is posting in this thread knows about it.
lololol "it's not my place to go into details" but it is to stir up shit |
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| Medrea January 18 2012 16:17. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
On January 18 2012 16:13 Bagi wrote:
Starting to see a pattern with this "Coach Lee" guy.
Yes the pattern is players go in and want nothing more than to get the fuck out.
Im gonna have to defer to Rekruls wisdom on this one. Something is up here. |
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