Unimpressed Flash Meme - Page 227

Finally constructive thoughts thank.

So let me make things clear, like I originally said (but you didn't seem to have read it) BW is a great game that I've been playing (very little that's true, but enough to enjoy it and never question it's quality). Now let's go back in history and be a bit logical. When SC2 was released it was clearly considered as the game who could help eSports get back on track as just like many industries were affected by the world's financial situation, eSports didn't have great years from 2008 to 2010. Now I wrote my university thesis on that topic so if you're really curious about that PM me and you'll get 70 pages of document explaining that (though it's in French as my university asked it that way ...).
SC2 being very likely to become a very important eSport, it would bring exposure to the eSport scene in general just by existing. And of course, it's only logical to think that by bringing exposure to the scene, it would bring some to BW too. After all, once people here about SC2, many might be curious about the game which set what basically any competitive RTS should aim toward being: aka BW.

BUT, what turned out bad IMO is that instead of just embracing the Starcraft franchise as a whole, some of the BW players (AKA members of BW community) started bashing SC2 players, basically acting like elitist douches. This is somehow an understandable human reaction (the whole "I knew about X before it was cool" here turns out to be "I played competitive RTS before it became so mainstream with SC2"). In the end what happened is that a cleavage between the SC2 community and BW community was created which should have never even existed in the first place. By dividing the RTS fans community in BW and SC2 communities, both those game didn't get as much exposure as they could have. Now it didn't matter that much for SC2 because the game was young and meant to keep on rising, but for BW, I think it's much more problematic since the game probably didn't have that many great years ahead of him (with SC2 logically gaining more and more importance).

In the end my point is that part of the BW community contributed in accelerating BW's decline with that attitude.
Now to make things clear, I never said BW TL community (sure TL is by far the biggest community but the BW VS SC2 war didn't only happen here, check Reddit, Bnet forums, etc ...) so don't take it so personally.

As for why all this discussion is held on that topic, I have absolutely no idea why this is. It started pages ago. I just felt like I was reading too much bullshit (or at least, what I consider to be bullshit) lately so I wanted to give my thoughts on that like everyone does on forums.

Once again, I have nothing against BW and it's a great game, but don't blindly defend a community just based on the fact that you belong to it. The BW community especially people who have been here for a long time did a huge amount of work (just by existing) for eSports development, but still some of it's members' behaviour after SC2's release cost it quite a bit. Also I don't have time to read all your contribution to those forums but I'm sure you did a lot considering your amount of posts, can't see how this is relevant in this discussion though.

PS: I called you brain-dead fanboy coz that's seriously what your first post made me think of you, though I now can see you can clearly explain your point and discuss a subject constructively. Didn't call you retarded, just called retarded the idea of "TL killed BW" because it's plain wrong, you know it, I know it, and everyone knows it.

Finally constructive thoughts thank.

So let me make things clear, like I originally said (but you didn't seem to have read it) BW is a great game that I've been playing (very little that's true, but enough to enjoy it and never question it's quality). Now let's go back in history and be a bit logical. When SC2 was released it was clearly considered as the game who could help eSports get back on track as just like many industries were affected by the world's financial situation, eSports didn't have great years from 2008 to 2010. Now I wrote my university thesis on that topic so if you're really curious about that PM me and you'll get 70 pages of document explaining that (though it's in French as my university asked it that way ...).
SC2 being very likely to become a very important eSport, it would bring exposure to the eSport scene in general just by existing. And of course, it's only logical to think that by bringing exposure to the scene, it would bring some to BW too. After all, once people here about SC2, many might be curious about the game which set what basically any competitive RTS should aim toward being: aka BW.

BUT, what turned out bad IMO is that instead of just embracing the Starcraft franchise as a whole, some of the BW players (AKA members of BW community) started bashing SC2 players, basically acting like elitist douches. This is somehow an understandable human reaction (the whole "I knew about X before it was cool" here turns out to be "I played competitive RTS before it became so mainstream with SC2"). In the end what happened is that a cleavage between the SC2 community and BW community was created which should have never even existed in the first place. By dividing the RTS fans community in BW and SC2 communities, both those game didn't get as much exposure as they could have. Now it didn't matter that much for SC2 because the game was young and meant to keep on rising, but for BW, I think it's much more problematic since the game probably didn't have that many great years ahead of him (with SC2 logically gaining more and more importance).

In the end my point is that part of the BW community contributed in accelerating BW's decline with that attitude.
Now to make things clear, I never said BW TL community (sure TL is by far the biggest community but the BW VS SC2 war didn't only happen here, check Reddit, Bnet forums, etc ...) so don't take it so personally.

As for why all this discussion is held on that topic, I have absolutely no idea why this is. It started pages ago. I just felt like I was reading too much bullshit (or at least, what I consider to be bullshit) lately so I wanted to give my thoughts on that like everyone does on forums.

Once again, I have nothing against BW and it's a great game, but don't blindly defend a community just based on the fact that you belong to it. The BW community especially people who have been here for a long time did a huge amount of work (just by existing) for eSports development, but still some of it's members' behaviour after SC2's release cost it quite a bit. Also I don't have time to read all your contribution to those forums but I'm sure you did a lot considering your amount of posts, can't see how this is relevant in this discussion though.

PS: I called you brain-dead fanboy coz that's seriously what your first post made me think of you, though I now can see you can clearly explain your point and discuss a subject constructively. Didn't call you retarded, just called retarded the idea of "TL killed BW" because it's plain wrong, you know it, I know it, and everyone knows it.