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 Liquid`Sheth United States. February 08 2012 06:34. Posts 2025 | Profile Blog # |
As of Now -- Vote Count :
Liquid`Sheth (7) -- Katina, Palmar, Forumite, VisceraEyes, Bill Murray, Radfield, Hiro Protagonist
Cyber_Cheese (7) -- Liquid`Sheth, Toadesstern, DoctorHelvatica, Slardar (Hopefully changing it, according to him), Kurumi, Ico, Layabout
rGTheClaimer (5) -- Cyber_Cheese, Kenpachi, -.-Qualis, WhereBugsGo, Chaoser,
Ico (1) -- Adam4167
Layabout (1) -- Tunkeg
DoctorHelvatica (1) -- Jayjay54
Chaoser (1) -- Tobberoth
Toadsstern (1) --Risk.nuke
That's what I've found so far. If you're one of those voting for someone with only one vote, throw your vote on to either myself or Cyber_Cheese or at least make sure you've given a good reason for why its on the person its on. Keep in mind those on me when I die if I die, and flip are most likely mafia trying to bandwagon me. At least keep a close eye on them. Hopefully I'll be able to convince you not to go on me, and we can get a red on Cyber_Cheese |
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 08 2012 07:02. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
All right, I almost made the switch to Cyber_Cheese, but then Sheth posted his case on Cyber_Cheese. I have to say - it's one of the worst cases I've seen. And that should really infuriate Sheth considering that's coming from me. But allow me to ruminate whilst I illuminate.
On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:So here is my vote + reason. Cyber_Cheese He posted this :
Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 16:01 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we? I am not talkinng setup anymore, if you haven't realised that. I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize. Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them. Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone. So why keep my vote on Kenpachi? He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that. How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I? By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate.
If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS.
This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum. I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim.
So basically you're apologising for not checking his filter, and you still don't actually have a reason to have voted?
This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG. RG has now claimed blue as detective and I believe him. Its just something he would do. I realize its horribly bad (RG never claim unless you're sure your going to die at night).
The first thing I thought when I read this was "…..so what?" Like, it doesn't say why the post is bad, it merely states factually that "This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG." He then gives his opinion of RG's claim, but that doesn't matter because this is a case against Cyber_Cheese. So what, Sheth? What about that post don't you like? That he doesn't believe the claim and you do? That tells nothing of his alignment. This is a waste of space in the thread.
On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:lso he wanted to give up the Joker right away.
Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 16:20 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Kenpachi's claim means absolutely nothing, just like it does every game...
Sheth's gotta be scum, look at all that useless filler, and the games only just started.
My activities going to be sub par for the next 16~24 hours, sorry in advance.
Should be right after that though.
I disagree with DocH, who's to know if batman/catwoman are going to shoot accurately.
That's not a risk I want to take, when we could reduce overall KP and give ourselves more time to analyse instead.
To kick off some real discussion.
I'd like to discuss the Joker claiming ASAP.
Sure he dies overnight, but then we have batman as essentially a buffed up version of the same role from that night until the gf dies.
Catwoman's targets on the other hand, where do we balance a known two townie deaths vs potentially a lot more as the game drags on?
This isn't something a townie would do. Which leads me to think either Batman or Scum. I'm definitely happy voting for him. I was going to choose VE for my vote, but after reading CC's filter I find it really bad. He also has such lovely posts as :
Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
As a side note, if you don't want a topic discussed, add in a topic that will create discussion in it's place.
And instead of going after the "long line of posts going after RG", the DT you claim to believe, he then rounds out his case quoting Cyber's first two in-game posts. Only reason given: "This isn't something a townie would do"
…why? It's a slightly more complex setup and has guaranteed third-parties. It's true that third party discussion dominated the first part of today, but Cyber_Cheese was doing it before it was cool man. [/hipster] In short, I disagree…concisely giving his thoughts on the third party situation then adding that if you DON'T want to talk about third parties, then come up with a different topic very much IS something a townie would do.
On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
If you think my stuff is fluff, check out Cyber's filter. So ##Vote Cyber_Cheese
I did - it has fleshed out opinions on players and participation in town discussion. This is NOT something I see going over your filter.
All and all, I feel like this case is a desperate attempt by scum trying to avoid the lynch by trying to appear contributing, but falling short. It looks thrown together. It looks scummy.
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| Liquid`Sheth United States. February 08 2012 07:16. Posts 2025 | Profile Blog # |
The first part is just a small thing. Hes actively going against someone that I strongly think to be our Detective.
Then, I've already brought up the fact that hes actively going after RG, so I wouldn't need to bring that up more, I go after him wanting The Joker (A blue Vigilante) to come out. Him starting this should make you want to think that he is red even more. No one should want the Joker to just come out without having already killed Hugo.
And at first you say you were planning on switching over to Cyber_Cheese before I brought up my argument. Why?! What was your reason for wanting to vote Cyber_Cheese?
Then, of course my case is thrown together quickly, and I'm trying to avoid getting lynched. This doesn't change the fact that I think hes red. You posting this has made you look even worse in my eyes. Please, tell me why would Cyber want a blue Vigilante to come out? The logic behind starting that train of thought should only lead you to two places.
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| layabout United Kingdom. February 08 2012 07:20. Posts 1905 | Profile Blog # |
is it too late to say that i do not like Jayjay54's tone and that i think we may want to consider lynching him but that i tried to write a case but it was sarcastic, rude and unpersuasive?
I am not feeling confident. Day1 blows.
I will have to leave in an hour, is sheth/cyber the choice i have to make? |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. February 08 2012 07:23. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
I think the people voting for sheth are greener then the people voting for cc,
changing my pointless vote on toad to sheth. |
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| Tunkeg Norway. February 08 2012 07:23. Posts 1159 | Profile Blog # |
So, this is going to be between Sheth and CC then (and perhaps rgST, but I am not voting for a claimer tonight, that would be like doing scum a favor, rgST will be killed off soon enough, and in the meanwhile he needs to post his checks and his findings to keep pressure on scum, or reveal himself as a scum (unless he is the scum DT ofcourse).
On one hand you have CC who have done the rgST push and started the Joker Claim thing. After awhile it was pretty much me and DrH going back and forth on it, CC leaving me high and dry pretty much. I still belive that Joker claim would be pro-town, but CC might had a hidden plan (that I don't see) in getting me or anyone else going along with this plan lynched (meaning he is scum) or he is Batman (wanting the easy kill on Joker).
For Sheth he haven't posted anything that I consider pro-town yet. He flip-flopped on the whole Joker thing, and as soon as he got attention from DrH he just switched 180 around.
Am I sold that anyone of them is scum. No, not at all, would I be more content with lynching layabout, yes indeed (he haven't convinced me he is town, and still is my strongest read). Will I make my vote count? Yes, and I will swing it on Sheth, as I think it is more likely that he is scum than CC.
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| layabout United Kingdom. February 08 2012 07:24. Posts 1905 | Profile Blog # |
On February 08 2012 07:12 Kurumi wrote:
##unvote
##vote -_-qualis
Two scummy guys both cant be scum ... Rather ... Go town ...
On February 08 2012 07:22 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote: Liquid`Sheth
get your behinds into the thread and explain yourselves |
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| Liquid`Sheth United States. February 08 2012 07:27. Posts 2025 | Profile Blog # |
So, now its Liquid`Sheth (8) Risk.nuke added,
Kurumi silently removed his vote from Cyber, because "two scummy people can't both by scummy" and Layabout is thinking of removing his vote from Cyber and putting it on me.
So, that'll be Liquid`Sheth (9) Cyber (5).
Keep in mind these last minute changers please. I'm not giving up, but I don't see what more I can do from here. I don't have time to do much more as I have to get ready for work. This is obviously a bandwagon and if I had to guess the scum out of it I'd say VE (Most obvious, especially because of his post against me), then maybe Kurumi or BM. Anyway, this might be my last post. I should have time to come back and check in one more time.
I might as well claim though, I'm vanilla. Its not much of a claim I wish I had some sort of blue roll to make me not worth killing. Either way, gain a lot of information on this and I think we'll be ok.  |
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| Kurumi Poland. February 08 2012 07:34. Posts 5137 | Profile Blog # |
| I am afraid because i have no time and my targets are not exactly the candidates Didnt look into sheth or cc too much is vote wbg if it would matter but it doesnt so i voted qualis because he is my strong scum read too |
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| Kurumi Poland. February 08 2012 07:36. Posts 5137 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Jayjay54 Germany. February 08 2012 07:38. Posts 2294 | Profile Blog # |
Meh. The Sheth case doesn't convince me for some reason. I don't feel confident right now to say he's scum. Then again, I am not convinced C_C is scum either. And apparently that's the 50:50 choice.
I'll definitely watch closely how people vote and how the votes on Sheth increase. Could be the scum train to lynch town (maybe to save C_C) or the scum bus to sacrifing a player with a lot of votes.
To sum it up, I am confident in my case and my vote in doc. That is why the vote stays here. As a reminder for my case. I hope people will look at it again and not dismiss just because big bad palmar said so...
layabout: you wanna hug it out? what did I do to piss you off or to convince you I am scum? |
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| layabout United Kingdom. February 08 2012 07:39. Posts 1905 | Profile Blog # |
Sheth, what is the most pro-town thing that you could do right now?
Do it. |
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| Slardar Canada. February 08 2012 07:41. Posts 4438 | Profile # |
| I was going to keep the vote on CC as it was my best read early on in the thread, was hoping for something better though. If I had to choose between Sheth and CC, guess my vote will sit on CC then. |
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| Cyber_Cheese Australia. February 08 2012 07:43. Posts 3597 | Profile Blog # |
At all the votes on me:
We should satisfy the neutrals town targets asap so they don't have any reason to fire randomly. You can pray they DT if you want, but It's not something I want to rely on. I still feel like someone that could kill every night might do it just because they can, and I still suspect it's more optimal than DT'ing.
I expect 2-3 groups arose to take a stance on my plan:
-Mafia to shut it down
-The townies who are targets, out of selfishness
-DocH Catwoman
But that's the last I'm going to say about it. |
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| Jayjay54 Germany. February 08 2012 07:46. Posts 2294 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Toadesstern Germany. February 08 2012 07:52. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
I don't see a problem with anyone on CC except for layabout but if CC flips red laya is okayish.
I do see problems with some people voting sheth, mainly hiro and BM.
I'd like to get people on CC instead of sheth. Yes I think sheth is a good lynch but with the most recent posts I really think CC is a far better lynch.
Just read his filter and give me a single reason you could think he's town. Look at what he's posting the last couple of hours: Nothing.
That's right. He was first in votes for most time I think. Yeah it was a close one but still why isn't he saying a word? Wouldn't a townie try to defend himself or try to scumhunt to prove he's a townie?
A townie would not leave this without a comment, a townie would activly try to get someone lynched who's not a 100% mislynch because if he knew that he's a townie he'd know that it's going to be a mislynch as well.
I won't say that sheth is a bad lynch because it's not but he's one of those 3 to 4 people I think will end up being a coinflip and I had a scumread on sheth in L d1 as well and ended up being wrong.
I actually think lynching sheth is good as well. I'm just saying lynching CC is way better. That guy is activly pushing a blue to claim, he is not helping, not even mentioning his reads or whatever and he's bound to flip mafia or third party imo.
He did a lot d1.1 that is VERY easy to do as mafia. It mainly was some talk about the setup and what we should do with the joker. That's all good and fine but ever since he completly stopped posting somethign of content. It's like he's sitting back watching the thread, even when people are casting votes on him. That's not a good sign at all. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. February 08 2012 07:53. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
yeah opz is the same as hiro. I'd really like him to show up in here and post something. Heavy fos on him as well.
Not sure if I already mentioned him but since you did I remembered I wanted to do that as well :.
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| Cyber_Cheese Australia. February 08 2012 08:06. Posts 3597 | Profile Blog # |
On February 08 2012 07:52 Toadesstern wrote:
I don't see a problem with anyone on CC except for layabout but if CC flips red laya is okayish.
I do see problems with some people voting sheth, mainly hiro and BM.
I'd like to get people on CC instead of sheth. Yes I think sheth is a good lynch but with the most recent posts I really think CC is a far better lynch.
Just read his filter and give me a single reason you could think he's town. Look at what he's posting the last couple of hours: Nothing.
That's right. He was first in votes for most time I think. Yeah it was a close one but still why isn't he saying a word? Wouldn't a townie try to defend himself or try to scumhunt to prove he's a townie?
A townie would not leave this without a comment, a townie would activly try to get someone lynched who's not a 100% mislynch because if he knew that he's a townie he'd know that it's going to be a mislynch as well.
I won't say that sheth is a bad lynch because it's not but he's one of those 3 to 4 people I think will end up being a coinflip and I had a scumread on sheth in L d1 as well and ended up being wrong.
I actually think lynching sheth is good as well. I'm just saying lynching CC is way better. That guy is activly pushing a blue to claim, he is not helping, not even mentioning his reads or whatever and he's bound to flip mafia or third party imo.
He did a lot d1.1 that is VERY easy to do as mafia. It mainly was some talk about the setup and what we should do with the joker. That's all good and fine but ever since he completly stopped posting somethign of content. It's like he's sitting back watching the thread, even when people are casting votes on him. That's not a good sign at all.
Well, I'm willing to lynch RG/DocH/chaoser/you at the moment if it makes you feel any better, in that order. |
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| layabout United Kingdom. February 08 2012 08:06. Posts 1905 | Profile Blog # |
On February 08 2012 07:43 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At all the votes on me:
We should satisfy the neutrals town targets asap so they don't have any reason to fire randomly. You can pray they DT if you want, but It's not something I want to rely on. I still feel like someone that could kill every night might do it just because they can, and I still suspect it's more optimal than DT'ing.
I expect 2-3 groups arose to take a stance on my plan:
-Mafia to shut it down
-The townies who are targets, out of selfishness
-DocH Catwoman
But that's the last I'm going to say about it.
Why do you expect 3rd party roles to behave rationally or optimally?
If i was immune to all night hits and could kill through protection, even if it was not optimal i would probably just use that power because i could and because the consequences for missing do not cost me much at all. Some Players may just like to kill other players. Some players might be dumb and think it's optimal. A lot of players would just choose to shoot.
We cannot control 3rd party roles and they cannot send us direct messages.
A qt has been mentioned:
On February 08 2012 05:47 Radfield wrote:
Man.... Why did you claim schworz?
Please stop talking about the mason thread BM, and please stop talking about a mass claim. The Mason thread is completely unimportant, and 99.99% infiltrated by scum, which is unsurprising when it contains half the player base. If you are not in the mason circle, don't worry. I would actually post the link to the thread to stop the discussion, but can't because Joker is basically exposed in that thread. Anyways, a 15 player circle has basically no value.
Toad looks decent for now, so I'm switching to Sheth. His defense was mediocre at best, and he STILL only posted his reads upon being pressed. I don't even think he voted.
I'm willing to switch to cyber_cheese if need be. I'm gone for the rest of the night pretty much until lynch time.
##Vote: Sheth
a few things:
since it's 99.99% infiltrated with scum the only players without knowledge of it's content will be 3rd party (though they could have access to it) and the town players not in it.
Since apparently the Joker has outed themselves to scum anyway perhaps you should share it?
You may still think that it's not worth outing the Joker but it would be nice if someone could shed some light on this whole "mason/neighbour" thing since the majority of players that will not know about it will be town-aligned. |
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| Liquid`Sheth United States. February 08 2012 08:06. Posts 2025 | Profile Blog # |
On February 08 2012 07:39 layabout wrote:
Sheth, what is the most pro-town thing that you could do right now?
Do it.
K.
I'm changing my vote off Cyber_Cheese. I'm putting it on VisceraEyes. Let me explain why its important to remove him.
His first post :
Not much going on so far, scummiest thing in the thread is Kenpachi's claim...but obviously he's mothafuckin Kenpachi so that's like whatevs.
Not too much to go on here. Taking pressure off Ken, just getting along with everyone.
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On February 06 2012 15:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:31 Katina wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:15 Katina wrote:
I wasn't sure if he was being a noob or being serious. I don't think it really means anything.
Pretty much everything is something that matters. I'm not sure it matters too much, but its definitely something to look at and think on a little bit imo.
I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process
Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:41 Katina wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.
However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned?
So, Bill -- Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good. They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death. Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map. Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.
.... I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process
What I find peculiar is how you're able to repeat yourself while saying so little in the process. Are you getting scummy vibes off Sheth? You pickin up a lil red tinge there?
He defends me from Kat. Not much to say here either, other then hes getting along with everyone. Taking pressure off of another person for little reason as well.
Thirdly...
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On February 07 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:I see that Kitaman might be scum! I've made one action this game, and it was an attempt to get clarity from the mod. Somehow this makes me scum? The reason I asked was this:
Show nested quote +He infiltrates Arkham City in order to target certain people. Hugo Strange tells him who to shoot each night and thus deadshot will carry out the contract and kill that person. If Hugo Strange is killed, deadshot will no longer be able to carry out his attacks.
It's a little ambiguous as to how the deadshot KP works and I wanted mod confirmation that it wasn't what I read it as...which is that Strange gives him a character name and Deadshot kills that guy if he's in the game. The reason I thought it worked this way is because of the fact that not all the names mentioned are guaranteed to be in the game, so it would be a decent way to force scum to think about how they use that KP, because it could be ineffective. Anyway, the fact that anyone is voting for me for this is a little disturbing considering there's already like 3 pages of setup speculation and a mass-claim has been proposed. Kitaman, care to explain your vote in a little detail? Or are you scum just hoping to start a bandwagon?
He calls out Kitaman for being scum for putting any pressure on himself. This post bothers me a lot. Hes suggesting that in the 3 pages of setup speculation there is someone we should be voting for, instead of himself. Yet he never brings that up again. This just feels quite wrong to me.
He then goes after Kitaman with no logic, other then he must be scum, he voted for me!
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On February 07 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just woke up, but you know...whatever. And you're surprised I "showed up quick" at the very start of the game? And what I was doing was NOT defending Sheth...I was pointing out Katina's hypocrisy for saying Sheth isn't saying anything. Get real Doc. If you move your vote, I suggest you move it to Kitaman.
He then says this!!!
On February 07 2012 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:*grumblegrumble* ANYWAY, I guess since trying to understand the setup is scummy, I'll just embrace my ignorance and live up to expectations. ##Vote: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler +My vote is about his lack of reasoning for voting for me, and attempt to start a bandwagon (Forumite also appears to be suspicious of me, so I'm taking kita's vote of me as a direct appeal to him...your mileage may vary.) Clearly all I ever do is OMGUS, so I've spoilered out my actual reasoning since it's imaginary anyway.
What is this post?! Has there ever been a worse town post? I'll embrace my ignorance and live up to bad expectations people have of me. Then he suggests hes posted his reasoning for voting for Kitaman, when clearly he has no reasoning other then that Kitaman put pressure on him. Then he says his reasoning is imaginary anyway. Yes, yes it is.
It ONLY gets worse from here folks.
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On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:First of all ##Unvote: kitaman27Now for the good stuff. VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracylayabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either. Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something. kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today. Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick. So, there you have it. ##Vote: layabout
He switches here with no reasoning behind it. He goes from voting for Kita, and having posted his reads to "Kita is my weakest read at this point". He thinks Layabout and Katina two people who no offense, haven't posted much of any sustenance to be mafia. This is either horrible play or scum play. I'm leaning towards scum play on him. There is more..
Then this post :
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On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question.
He wants me to come here and put forth effort into actually doing something. He then right after says that he is totally okay with lynching Sheth No question. Just completely contradictory. I think hes townie, but I'm ready to lynch! How is this not a red flag for everyone else!
I then call him out on this in the thread. He replies
On February 07 2012 09:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 09:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question.
Why do you think I'm not willing to put in effort? You also flip flop from that I'm eager to find scum and null with being ok to lynch me. I don't like this play at all.
I never said you're not willing to put in effort. I said IF you're not willing to put in effort, then your lynch has my approval. While I got you here though, who do you think is scum and why? All this Batman talk is fascinating, but we DO have to lynch today ya? Who should it be?
He wants me to post my reads on others. I do that and say who I'd like to lynch. I provide the information that he requires later on. We shall see his response then.
He posts this after I've said my read on Cyber_cheese
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On February 08 2012 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote:All right, I almost made the switch to Cyber_Cheese, but then Sheth posted his case on Cyber_Cheese. I have to say - it's one of the worst cases I've seen. And that should really infuriate Sheth considering that's coming from me. But allow me to ruminate whilst I illuminate.
Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:So here is my vote + reason. Cyber_Cheese He posted this :
On February 07 2012 16:01 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we? I am not talkinng setup anymore, if you haven't realised that. I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize. Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them. Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone. So why keep my vote on Kenpachi? He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that. How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I? By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate.
If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS.
This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum. I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim.
So basically you're apologising for not checking his filter, and you still don't actually have a reason to have voted?
This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG. RG has now claimed blue as detective and I believe him. Its just something he would do. I realize its horribly bad (RG never claim unless you're sure your going to die at night).
The first thing I thought when I read this was "…..so what?" Like, it doesn't say why the post is bad, it merely states factually that "This is the last post in a long line of posts going after RG." He then gives his opinion of RG's claim, but that doesn't matter because this is a case against Cyber_Cheese. So what, Sheth? What about that post don't you like? That he doesn't believe the claim and you do? That tells nothing of his alignment. This is a waste of space in the thread.
Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:lso he wanted to give up the Joker right away.
On February 06 2012 16:20 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Kenpachi's claim means absolutely nothing, just like it does every game...
Sheth's gotta be scum, look at all that useless filler, and the games only just started.
My activities going to be sub par for the next 16~24 hours, sorry in advance.
Should be right after that though.
I disagree with DocH, who's to know if batman/catwoman are going to shoot accurately.
That's not a risk I want to take, when we could reduce overall KP and give ourselves more time to analyse instead.
To kick off some real discussion.
I'd like to discuss the Joker claiming ASAP.
Sure he dies overnight, but then we have batman as essentially a buffed up version of the same role from that night until the gf dies.
Catwoman's targets on the other hand, where do we balance a known two townie deaths vs potentially a lot more as the game drags on?
This isn't something a townie would do. Which leads me to think either Batman or Scum. I'm definitely happy voting for him. I was going to choose VE for my vote, but after reading CC's filter I find it really bad. He also has such lovely posts as :
On February 06 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
As a side note, if you don't want a topic discussed, add in a topic that will create discussion in it's place.
And instead of going after the "long line of posts going after RG", the DT you claim to believe, he then rounds out his case quoting Cyber's first two in-game posts. Only reason given: "This isn't something a townie would do" …why? It's a slightly more complex setup and has guaranteed third-parties. It's true that third party discussion dominated the first part of today, but Cyber_Cheese was doing it before it was cool man. [/hipster] In short, I disagree…concisely giving his thoughts on the third party situation then adding that if you DON'T want to talk about third parties, then come up with a different topic very much IS something a townie would do.
Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 06:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
If you think my stuff is fluff, check out Cyber's filter. So ##Vote Cyber_Cheese
I did - it has fleshed out opinions on players and participation in town discussion. This is NOT something I see going over your filter. All and all, I feel like this case is a desperate attempt by scum trying to avoid the lynch by trying to appear contributing, but falling short. It looks thrown together. It looks scummy. Everyone vote for Liquid`Sheth. I may or may not give you an e-cookie.
I do admit that my claim against Cyber wasn't the greatest. However the fact that Viscera was willing to switch off of me, and go for Cyber_Cheese, someone he hasn't even mentioned should be another huge tell. He says that here :
All right, I almost made the switch to Cyber_Cheese, but then Sheth posted his case on Cyber_Cheese. I have to say - it's one of the worst cases I've seen. And that should really infuriate Sheth considering that's coming from me. But allow me to ruminate whilst I illuminate.
All of this is just him being a scum. He has flip flopped between many candidates for lynch. And from the reasons I have given above is a scum to me. Layabout wanted the last thing I could think to do as town and here it is. I don't want Cyber_Cheese lynched, I'm not sure hes mafia I just have a hunch. I'm much more certain that VE is and as such despite probably dying in the process I'll put my vote on him. ##Vote VisceraEyes |
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